13L G40 Nerquen (Axis) vs Tyzoq (Allies +11)

[nerquen]

scramble at Carolines?

[Tyzoq]

yes scramble both fighters

[Tyzoq]

I see a lot of 1s and 2s for you and a lot of 5s and 6s for me  :-(

[nerquen]

yes… went unexpectedly too well… I actually maybe pulled the retreat too early… I am still rethinking what should I do… I did not plan on retreating at first… but then it looked as a good option… let me think more about it… in a case I continue with the battle I will roll it here.

[nerquen]

ok, I am pulling off from the battle… but I missed the fact that when I retreat my planes still stay put and cannot land anywhere… since their AC retreated… so instead of 1 cruiser and a destroyer I will kill 1 fighter and 1 t. bomber in an edit

I hope this edit is ok, as I played the battle as the very last of my combat round.

[nerquen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
                  Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
                  Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
                  Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea
            3 fighters moved from Japan to Korea
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 43 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 43 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 44 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            2 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 destroyers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Americans scrambles 2 units out of Caroline Islands to defend against the attack in 33 Sea Zone
            Battle in Sumatra
                Japanese attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
            Battle in 43 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Korea
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 56 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 33 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 submarine; Americans defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese
                1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 2 battleships owned by the Japanese retreated to 34 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 battleship, 4 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 58
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser and 3 destroyers
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines
            Moving scrambled unit from 33 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Caroline Islands
            Moving scrambled unit from 33 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Caroline Islands
                2 fighters owned by the Americans forced to land in Caroline Islands

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Borneo: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kwangtung: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber could not land in 33 Sea Zone and were removed
            2 bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to Hunan
            3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Hunan
            1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 fighter moved from Korea to Manchuria
            2 fighters moved from Korea to Japan
            1 artillery moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan

Place Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 34 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
            1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

[nerquen]

TrippleA did not allow me to take my infantry from Borneo with a transport… I think this is a bug, at least am not aware of a rule why it should not allow. So I did it via an edit… and moved my infantry to Kwangtung. Other edit just changes my losses from cruiser & destroyer to Fighter & t bomber.

Also in the battle… when taking your hits … I optimized for defense… so I killed your AC before a fighter… Only after your losses were taken you rolled quite poorly your attack dice and it made me decide to retreat… so you could in theory saved your carrier… but since you did not provide OOL I hope you agree I took your casualties reasonable (max defense, not max value as I did not think any of your units would survive the battle).

[nerquen]

whoops a stupid mistake…. I just left an unprotected transport for you again. I will edit it and post here.

[nerquen]

Ok… your surviving navy at Carolines complicates it quite a bit… for example you could have simply walked into empty Philipines in my previous save.

Here is the edit: 2 tact bombers from SZ43 move to Philipines  (instead of China)
                            1 destroyer form SZ37 -> SZ35 (instead of SZ34)
                              transport with 2 INF to Philipines (sz35) instead of Kwangtung

best, Peter

[Tyzoq]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 unit repaired.
            2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone

[Tyzoq]

scramble orders for sz35

[nerquen]

I scramble both t. bombers

[nerquen]

or if you did not attack yet… let me look on the map more later… I will let you know in 2 hours when I will have more time

[Tyzoq]

no rush, I will wait for you to look at it.

[nerquen]

thanks for waiting, I scramble

[Tyzoq]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 unit repaired.
            2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Japanese scrambles 2 units out of Philippines to defend against the attack in 35 Sea Zone
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 2 transports
                    2 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 transports
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 35 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 35 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in 35 Sea Zone
                retreated to 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking Celebes from Japanese with 1 destroyer, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -22
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 1 fighter
            Moving scrambled unit from 35 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Philippines
            Moving scrambled unit from 35 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Philippines

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
            1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Morocco to Southeast Mexico
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 63 Sea Zone to New Zealand

Place Units - Americans
            2 destroyers and 4 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
            3 fighters placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Queensland : 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    New Zealand : 1 armour and 1 infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 3 mech_infantrys
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    Celebes : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Dutch New Guinea : 1 fighter
    44 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    26 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 2 submarines and 1 transport
    10 Sea Zone : 2 destroyers and 4 submarines
    63 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    54 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
    Central United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_major, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southeast Mexico : 1 fighter
    Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 46
    Russians : 34 / 37
    Japanese : 58 / 66
    Americans : 53 / 73
    Chinese : 3 / 12
    British : 26 / 47
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 12
    Italians : 22 / 32
    ANZAC : 10 / 19
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Tyzoq]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
                  Chinese take Kweichow from Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
            2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Szechwan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Shensi
                Chinese attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shensi, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi
                Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Szechwan, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan
                Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            12 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Kweichow

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 12 PUs

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Shensi : 2 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 fighter
    Kweichow : 17 infantry
    Szechwan : 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 46
    Russians : 34 / 37
    Japanese : 55 / 66
    Americans : 53 / 73
    Chinese : 6 / 12
    British : 26 / 47
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 12
    Italians : 22 / 32
    ANZAC : 10 / 19
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[nerquen]

hi Tyzoq,

before you do your British move… I think there is a problem with our game. I don’t know why, but Persia’s income is being added to UK_pacific and not to UK_Europe… would you mind correcting this for turn 2 purchase… e.g. removing 1 infantry from India, giving 1 IPC to India and 2 IPC to London? And then for this turn -2 IPC for India and +2 IPC for London.

Also… when I attack a sub with destroyers tripleA allows me move the destroyers after the combat. Is this a bug or did I miss a rule that allows this?

[Tyzoq]

I see what the problem is, Persia was captured by the mech inf which was UK_Pacific controlled so the income went to UK_Pacific, I changed the mech when I noticed but I did not notice it effected Persia as well, sorry about that.

As for attacking subs with destroyers and then moving the destroyer, that must be a bug.

[Tyzoq]

I got busy while working on UK turn, I’ll finish later tonight.