HBG WW1 Set

[Flashman]

Apart from early war infantry and cavalry, all CP units looked pretty much the same; they tended to use the same artillery, planes, helmets etc. (Don’t know about ships, but Turkey didn’t build any mechanical units anyway).

Hence, a single set in different colours for the CPs would do the job well enough.

Also like some armaments counters; a generic artillery shell design, perhaps in 4 colours to represent different shell types. For use in possible supply rules.

[virtualpender]

@coachofmany:

HBG is tossing the idea of making a WW1 set that will fill in the current WOTC game as well as IL’s game. We thought it would be neat to have a French set made in French OOB blue and HBG’s other Neutral colors. Many French pieces were used by many Nations so it would be a neat set. I will post them and update as suggestions are made on this first post! These pieces should fill in for both games.

Sold!

Love the idea!

[De Gaulle]

I am extremely interested in this idea. I hope it comes along well.

[HBG]

What would be a good choice for a WW1 French Destroyer?

[Razor]

I’ll buy it

[De Gaulle]

@coachofmany:

What would be a good choice for a WW1 French Destroyer?

I did a little research around the web and found that the ARQUEBUSE Class Destroyers were the most numerous in the French Navy. Right around 20 ships at the outset of the war. Although they are not the most visually exciting ships.

[Flashman]

Suggestion for Fighters:

Fighter Ace unit.

Representing advanced fighter design, and rolling @3.

There are a number of ways these can be introduced: available after a set number of turns, as a tech development, as a promotion of standard fighters which score a “kill” in air combat.

A neat way of implementing this would be to model tri-planes, this being a visual representation of the fact that these units roll @3 in combat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Triplane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_Dr.I

[Imperious Leader]

The set must also have a replacement ocean liner that looks like a transport. Only thing the Lusitania is good for is a one off piece used to possibly trigger a war.

[Flashman]

Yes, and we need plastic telegrams in 8 colours to trigger wars we want but pretend not to.

[xxstefanx]

@De:

@coachofmany:

What would be a good choice for a WW1 French Destroyer?

I did a little research around the web and found that the ARQUEBUSE Class Destroyers were the most numerous in the French Navy. Right around 20 ships at the outset of the war. Although they are not the most visually exciting ships.

Correct.
They were the most numerous BUT already “old” at the start of the war.
So the French used their modern destroyers of the Bouclier class (except 3) with their main fleet in the Mediterranean.
3 of them were used in Atlantic/Channel as leaders of the respective destroyer flotillas there.
Tbh the 12 Bouclier class destroyers would make piecemeal of the 20 Arquebuse destroyers (speed, armament)

As a French player I would definately prefer the Bouclier class (looks better, too)

P.S.: 100% historically correct would be an Arquebuse class destroyer in the Channel and a Bouclier class destroyer in the Mediterranean in a 1914 start setup!  :wink:

[De Gaulle]

@xxstefanx:

@De:

@coachofmany:

What would be a good choice for a WW1 French Destroyer?

I did a little research around the web and found that the ARQUEBUSE Class Destroyers were the most numerous in the French Navy. Right around 20 ships at the outset of the war. Although they are not the most visually exciting ships.

Correct.
They were the most numerous BUT already “old” at the start of the war.
So the French used their modern destroyers of the Bouclier class (except 3) with their main fleet in the Mediterranean.
3 of them were used in Atlantic/Channel as leaders of the respective destroyer flotillas there.
Tbh the 12 Bouclier class destroyers would make piecemeal of the 20 Arquebuse destroyers (speed, armament)

As a French player I would definately prefer the Bouclier class (looks better, too)

P.S.: 100% historically correct would be an Arquebuse class destroyer in the Channel and a Bouclier class destroyer in the Mediterranean in a 1914 start setup!  :wink:

Yes of course. All valid points. We want somthing more visually appealing anyway. Bouclier sounds like it fits the boot.

[Imperious Leader]

Why doesn’t somebody post pictures of all these proposed units?

[xxstefanx]

Hello Coach!

Please make the set:
1. OOB Blue for the A&A Nerds
2. Horizon Blue for the History Nerds
(3. whatever colours for neutrals)

Thx in advance!

[Flashman]

How do you propose that “neutral” units work?

For example if Dutch and Belgian infantry were made in white and ended up on opposing sides, wouldn’t people get confused about which was which?

[HBG]

@Flashman:

How do you propose that “neutral” units work?

For example if Dutch and Belgian infantry were made in white and ended up on opposing sides, wouldn’t people get confused about which was which?

Use White, Ivory, Light Grey, the plan is to do them in 8-9 colors.

[GoSanchez6]

I’m in on this one Coach excited to hear this could become a reality.

[HBG]

Make sure we look at the first post of mine and finalize the WW1 French Set that can be universal to the best it can.

[xxstefanx]

The most important task of French transports during WWI was to ship French soldiers from the North African colonies to France, Gallipoli and Greece.

Here is the most prominent:
Provence II:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Provence_(1906) (unfortunately the English article is really short and w/o pics)
http://www.uboat.net/wwi/ships_hit/3447.html
http://www.greatships.net/provence.html
http://pages14-18.mesdiscussions.net/pages1418/Forum-Pages-d-Histoire-aviation-marine/marine-1914-1918/provence-compagnie-transatlantique-sujet_145_1.htm (pictures; article in French)

[xxstefanx]

Bouclier class destroyer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouclier-class_destroyer
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Bouclier-Marius_Bar.jpg

[xxstefanx]

The Light Blue colour of this HBG set is (almost) perfect for the French WWI set! Very, very close to the Horizon Blue of the French Army:
http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/HBG-Battle-Pieces–Allies-Supplement-set-Light-Blue_p_1132.html

The Light Blue of the HBG Neutrals set on the other hand looks far too turquoise:
http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/HBG-Battle-Pieces--WW2-Neutrals-Basic-Set-Light-Blue_p_717.html

Please make sure you get the colour right!