X-DAP-05 TeamBoldDutch vs. DairyQryn

[Veqryn]

we were planning the G7 india hit + G8 moscow hit, hence the purchase of 2x dd with italy.  we would get one of those capitals for sure, and the other capital at 75% odds or better.

but after the loss of that fighter, we decided to go with a G6 hit on moscow, cus depending on the result of the german bombing we would have a minimum of 70% (loss of both bombers to snake eyes) to 99% with great bombing and a suicide hit with italy

right now we are looking at 93% - 99%, depending on what you guys do

i’m sorry for the luck.  the dice probabilities are still within a standard deviation or two, but their results have still been bad for you guys simply because not too many dice have been thrown so the weight of a couple dice has an large impact.

unless you have some trick up your sleeve, or can bet on 1-7% odds with moscow, then i think this is gameover

i will say that i like your strategy with the allies in general.  i generally have no clue on what to do with allies, so its nice to see something different from them.
i think that losing the bomber with russia on a suicide attack, and not taking iraq with russia were mistakes.
switching from anti-japan to anti-italy with usa is a costly affair, that may have set you back by a whole round.
i also think that anzac should do more in games, and so far it has done absolutely nothing. we normally build transports and stuff to contest islands and generally annoy japan

i think with some refinements, and maybe fewer risks, i think this could be a good allied strategy

[Cow]

Or take the Round 1 mech you bought and do what it is intended to do and harass Japan with it.

I was surprised to see more mech and a fighter purchase from Russia… Russia air in India… is kind of backwards.

[Cow]

It is not over yet. Still have to win at Russia.

[Cow]

gnite I will be on tomorrow sometime. I am glad things turned out this way so far and I hope Russia goes down smooth. That way it is a quick game and we can just chill for the next 5 months.

I need a hiatus.

[boldfresh]

i’m pretty disappointed in you guys actually.  course, if you actually played good strategy as well as getting luckbox dice you would be unbeatable so i guess we should just be thankful.  :wink:

[boldfresh]

funny that we could have both been so much looking forward to rounds 5 and 6.  clearly one team is missing something - won’t it be great to find out which one it is?  :lol:

[Veqryn]

i’m not going to say we have a better strategy. 
we have made some mistakes, and so have you. 
if the luck was even, i still think we would win eventually, but more because i think the game is not balanced with a 9 bid for allies. 
we’d probably be pretty even right now, though in the long run i still don’t see how you could hold both moscow and india at the same time.  and if i went the route of going for a g8 take, i would have also turned europe into a fortress, so even though you would eventually kill italy’s fleet, you wouldn’t be taking italy or holding france or the balkans.

and yes, i must be missing something.  i’m calling your bluff.  what is this masterful trick you’ve been hinting at since day 1?

[boldfresh]

actually i’m a little disappointed because i don’t think any of the tricks i had planned are even going to be needed…  :|

this one is laying out quite straightforward - we are going to bleed the axis dry, slowly but surely.  the reason cow wants a quick game is because he cant handle the complexity of a grander game.  too bad cuz he’s gonna have to face it.  :lol:

[dutchmand]

@Veqryn:

right now we are looking at 93% - 99%, depending on what you guys do

Try 70%.  Don’t forget the Russian air in India. Yes, I know traditionally it is 6 spaces, but…

[Cow]

wow you guys going to war with neutrals… that is crazy.

[Cow]

Well, that makes Siberia simple.

[dutchmand]

@Cow:

wow you guys going to war with neutrals… that is crazy.

Green Spain comign right up. Mmmmm.

[dutchmand]

@Cow:

Well, that makes Siberia simple.

Better check the rule book on that…

[dutchmand]

Mmmmmm….

Moo.

[Cow]

Still not a bad G5. Forced him to give up the neutrals. Airbase on poland not exactly the most useful thing, but we get some infantry in return for it. Air is always good to have.

OK Veqryn lez laugh our way to a TUV victory. It is going to get ugly for them fast.
~

What do you mean? You have to war neutrals to cross that. Mongolia is neutral. Russia has to war with neutrals. Mongolia can never side with Japan… but how does it go to Russia still?

[Cow]

Ah I see. That is funny.

Going to war with one Neutral means all other neutrals shift to pro axis. Mongolia does become pro axis only if attacked by Russia. Since it is Russia declaring war… they could become pro axis.

[boldfresh]

@Cow:

wow you guys going to war with neutrals… that is crazy.

We so cwaaaaaaaaazyyyyyyy.

Say buhbye cowpie

[Cow]

What matters is if those territories become pro axis or not. It seems like they do if it is Russia that declares war on neutrals, which is usually not the case.

Mongolia counts as a strict neutral, but if the special exception thing exempts it from becoming pro axis barring an actual attack… so be it.
~
Turkey Sweden and Afghanistan… is lots of inf. I like it. You guys can go attack all the neutrals, it takes a long time before they turn around and pay themselves off.

Have fun with spain and all that.

Russia will make what? 3. Plus 7 from north africa maybe? Good luck defending Russia with 3 units a round.

[boldfresh]

cow, look on the bright side…  at least you will learn a lot in this game!  :lol:  a topic for a new playbook perhaps…  :roll:

i am so glad you guys posted all that crap just before this trap is sprung… it really couldn’t be more beautiful.  i was actually HOPING THAT FTR would get shot down in russia so you would go for a G6.  8-)

NOW, the thing is, if you are hacking the dice server then all our planning will be for naught anyway.  but if you ARE NOT hacking the dice server, you might want to get busy with that right away cow.

:-D

[boldfresh]

Cow: Mongolia only becomes Axis friendly if attacked by Russia.

If Russia (or US) attacks a strict Neutral, Mongolia remains friendly to Russia, unless Russia attacks Korea or a Japanese controlled territory. It would then become strict Neutral and Russia loses its special relationship with it.

You can never fly over a Neutral unless you are attacking it.

there’s your answer from the faq cow.  but if you want to wait for Krieghund to confirm that would be fine with me…  :roll: :roll: :roll:

you know, i’m so disappointed that you are here in the championship of the winners bracket of a prestigious tournament, the very first ever XDAP tourney, and you DON’T EVEN KNOW THE RULES.  go back to school cow, you shouldn’t be trying to teach others about a game you apparently don’t know yourself.