X-DAP-05 TeamBoldDutch vs. DairyQryn

[Veqryn]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 bombers moved from Novgorod to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
            4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine

Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in Russia
                    AA guns fire in Russia :  0/2 hits
                Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 4,5 and causes: 9 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in Russia causes 9 damage total.
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor
                    Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Ukraine, round 1 :  4/8 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Ukraine, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 4 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
            3 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Smolensk
            8 armour, 6 artilleries, 29 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 bombers moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Western Ukraine
            3 armour and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
            3 armour and 3 infantry moved from 127 Sea Zone to Archangel
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to Poland
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Poland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Poland
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
            2 armour moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Germany to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 airfield placed in Poland
            3 tactical_bombers placed in Novgorod
            1 bomber placed in Germany
            2 infantry placed in France

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

[Cow]

G6 Russia.

Everyone gets hit with the G6 from time to time.

[Cow]

We took a long time mulling over Italy’s turn, because we were debating to G6 you guys or not.

After seeing the fighter go down and the big damage come up from Italy’s bomber… that changed everything.

We was going to go G8 Russia, with similar odds… decided to go for it now.

[Cow]

We get Russia Germany will win this game. Even if we do not get Russia, we will get India before those air units make it back.

This how Operation Barbarossa should have gone down.

[Veqryn]

we were planning the G7 india hit + G8 moscow hit, hence the purchase of 2x dd with italy.  we would get one of those capitals for sure, and the other capital at 75% odds or better.

but after the loss of that fighter, we decided to go with a G6 hit on moscow, cus depending on the result of the german bombing we would have a minimum of 70% (loss of both bombers to snake eyes) to 99% with great bombing and a suicide hit with italy

right now we are looking at 93% - 99%, depending on what you guys do

i’m sorry for the luck.  the dice probabilities are still within a standard deviation or two, but their results have still been bad for you guys simply because not too many dice have been thrown so the weight of a couple dice has an large impact.

unless you have some trick up your sleeve, or can bet on 1-7% odds with moscow, then i think this is gameover

i will say that i like your strategy with the allies in general.  i generally have no clue on what to do with allies, so its nice to see something different from them.
i think that losing the bomber with russia on a suicide attack, and not taking iraq with russia were mistakes.
switching from anti-japan to anti-italy with usa is a costly affair, that may have set you back by a whole round.
i also think that anzac should do more in games, and so far it has done absolutely nothing. we normally build transports and stuff to contest islands and generally annoy japan

i think with some refinements, and maybe fewer risks, i think this could be a good allied strategy

[Cow]

Or take the Round 1 mech you bought and do what it is intended to do and harass Japan with it.

I was surprised to see more mech and a fighter purchase from Russia… Russia air in India… is kind of backwards.

[Cow]

It is not over yet. Still have to win at Russia.

[Cow]

gnite I will be on tomorrow sometime. I am glad things turned out this way so far and I hope Russia goes down smooth. That way it is a quick game and we can just chill for the next 5 months.

I need a hiatus.

[boldfresh]

i’m pretty disappointed in you guys actually.  course, if you actually played good strategy as well as getting luckbox dice you would be unbeatable so i guess we should just be thankful.  :wink:

[boldfresh]

funny that we could have both been so much looking forward to rounds 5 and 6.  clearly one team is missing something - won’t it be great to find out which one it is?  :lol:

[Veqryn]

i’m not going to say we have a better strategy. 
we have made some mistakes, and so have you. 
if the luck was even, i still think we would win eventually, but more because i think the game is not balanced with a 9 bid for allies. 
we’d probably be pretty even right now, though in the long run i still don’t see how you could hold both moscow and india at the same time.  and if i went the route of going for a g8 take, i would have also turned europe into a fortress, so even though you would eventually kill italy’s fleet, you wouldn’t be taking italy or holding france or the balkans.

and yes, i must be missing something.  i’m calling your bluff.  what is this masterful trick you’ve been hinting at since day 1?

[boldfresh]

actually i’m a little disappointed because i don’t think any of the tricks i had planned are even going to be needed…  :|

this one is laying out quite straightforward - we are going to bleed the axis dry, slowly but surely.  the reason cow wants a quick game is because he cant handle the complexity of a grander game.  too bad cuz he’s gonna have to face it.  :lol:

[dutchmand]

@Veqryn:

right now we are looking at 93% - 99%, depending on what you guys do

Try 70%.  Don’t forget the Russian air in India. Yes, I know traditionally it is 6 spaces, but…

[Cow]

wow you guys going to war with neutrals… that is crazy.

[Cow]

Well, that makes Siberia simple.

[dutchmand]

@Cow:

wow you guys going to war with neutrals… that is crazy.

Green Spain comign right up. Mmmmm.

[dutchmand]

@Cow:

Well, that makes Siberia simple.

Better check the rule book on that…

[dutchmand]

Mmmmmm….

Moo.

[Cow]

Still not a bad G5. Forced him to give up the neutrals. Airbase on poland not exactly the most useful thing, but we get some infantry in return for it. Air is always good to have.

OK Veqryn lez laugh our way to a TUV victory. It is going to get ugly for them fast.
~

What do you mean? You have to war neutrals to cross that. Mongolia is neutral. Russia has to war with neutrals. Mongolia can never side with Japan… but how does it go to Russia still?

[Cow]

Ah I see. That is funny.

Going to war with one Neutral means all other neutrals shift to pro axis. Mongolia does become pro axis only if attacked by Russia. Since it is Russia declaring war… they could become pro axis.