X-DAP-05 TeamBoldDutch vs. DairyQryn

[boldfresh]

@allweneedislove:

@Boldfresh:

excellent, i was hoping you would have a very good G1 - no excuses now…  :-)

great attitude. but you are wrong, that was not a very good g1.
that was the best g1 dice i have seen.

every sub surviving is certainly a rarity.  :-P

so the very best g1 love has ever seen…  hmmmm.  well cow, your luck is legendary but that’s good cuz you’re gonna need every shred of luck you can get.

[Cow]

It would be even better if the french convoy missed and if I walked out with more infantry.

I am only up 2 infantry and 2 subs. That is not that big of a deal, you guys did get 9 ipc worth of bid plus a bomber.

Plus Japan has not gone yet. What happens if Japan has a bad turn? Or UK1 goes smooth? Do we get pieces too?

[boldfresh]

i at least seem to recall one G1 better than that against me, which was Zhukov’s in our league game. crushed paris losing only 5 units AND survived all his subs.  course he didn’t take southern france AS WELL, so yeah, i think this qualifies as better you’re right love.

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Volgograd
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            1 fighter placed in Russia
            Russians undo move 2.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Sikang : 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
    Yakut S.S.R. : 6 infantry
    Buryatia : 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry
    Belarus : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 8 infantry
    Bryansk : 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Russia : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    Ukraine : 1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys
    Western Ukraine : 1 artillery and 8 infantry
    Volgograd : 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
    Novgorod : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Caucasus : 2 infantry
    125 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    114 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser
    115 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 69
    Russians : 37 / 38
    Japanese : 26 / 26
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 12 / 12
    British : 28 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 12 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Cow]

Do not have the exact statistics but 5%-10% of all games will come out like this. It happens more frequently than you think.

Most people only notice when G1 goes real bad like losing the battle for France or a bunch of air lost, the odds for one battle to go terribly during a turn is 5-10%, which is about the same odds.

Compared to the average results + a couple of subs is not going to break the game the same way losing a battle of France breaks the game.

Southern france only got me +1 income. Those units would die to Italy anyway so it is not a huge issue from the big picture of things. The big picture is all that matters for the allies anyway.

The upper 0-5% is total loss 0-6 infantry on g1, which is something you will experience about as often as losing France battle. It does happen, but the nice thing is that those infantry are in France (far away from Russia) so you do get time to make your own luck happen. Where as losing France (which happened twice in this game) has a deeper impact as it cuts into the potential for taking london over and the potential for taking Russia over as mech moves to Russia in time for an ideal attack.

[boldfresh]

thanks professor cow where is j 1

[boldfresh]

What are the chances of an upper 5% g1 followed by an upper 5% j1 and when that happens what should the allies do?  just a rhetorical question…  :roll:  usually its what happens in games against me.

[boldfresh]

weird, i figured we’d see j1 right away

[dutchmand]

A perfect spot to make some smart ass comments about cattle and their feeding and milking schedule, but out of respect to Garg I’ll keep it in the barn for now, so to speak.

[dutchmand]

Sorry Bold. Doesn’t look like she will post tonight.

[boldfresh]

@DutchmanD:

Sorry Bold. Doesn’t look like she will post tonight.

never seen her stall so much before.  hmmmm, probably needs a little time to chew the cud

[boldfresh]

cow, i need you to post your combat move before rolling your dice.  it’s easy, you just click “post move summary” before you roll.

let’s just all get in the habit.

[boldfresh]

our game ID is 30447 but the dice coming over say it is game 30270.  what’s up with that?

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 1 :  2/9 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 1 :  4/8 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Korea to 36 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 41 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Caroline Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Paulau Island : 1 infantry
    Kwangsi : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 8 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
    Kiangsi : 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Japan : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 5 infantry
    Jehol : 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
    Siam : 2 infantry
    Manchuria : 4 infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Hunan : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Chahar : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Anhwe : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    36 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 submarine, 3 tactical_bombers and 2 transports
    20 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
    6 Sea Zone : 3 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 69
    Russians : 37 / 38
    Japanese : 30 / 41
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 8 / 12
    British : 28 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 12 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Cow]

our game ID is 30447 but the dice coming over say it is game 30270.  what’s up with that?

Oh? If you load the file it has 30270 as our game ID. Change that to 30447.

[Cow]

I also did not put Veqryn’s or dutch’s email in yet.

[boldfresh]

@Cow:

our game ID is 30447 but the dice coming over say it is game 30270.� what’s up with that?

Oh? If you load the file it has 30270 as our game ID. Change that to 30447.

yeah, i see that now, no biggie just got confused thinking it was a different game rolling there for a minute.

anyway, can we agree to post move summary before rolling dice?

we will put in the other emails when we do our moves.  what was Veqryn’s email again?  :-P

[boldfresh]

@Boldfresh:

@Cow:

our game ID is 30447 but the dice coming over say it is game 30270.� what’s up with that?

Oh? If you load the file it has 30270 as our game ID. Change that to 30447.

yeah, i see that now, no biggie just got confused thinking it was a different game rolling there for a minute.

anyway, can we agree to post move summary before rolling dice?

we will put in the other emails when we do our moves.  what was Veqryn’s email again?   :-P

was especially confused when i saw only china attacks coming across… i figured there was no way that was cow passing up a J1 DOW…  :-o

[Cow]

You can put anything you want for Game ID, all it does is tell you which game it is for when you get your marty emails. The topic ID is what matters, because that determines where stuffs gets posted to.

But yeah, I have another game going with ID 30270 so when I get dice rolls in, it will just be confusing for me to check.

Change that ID so I know which game to check, because I do not check marty rolls from my league games. I checked the major battles from my previous tournament games, but most of it I was too lazy. Yeah I guess I should check marty rolls. Veqryn does not check them either so I should do that, someone has got to make sure things went down right.

[Cow]

Why would I do a J1 DoW when Russia is setting itself up to hold Yunnan? I invented the J1 dow, of course I know how to pre emptively counter myself. It is in my Allies Playbook.

Here I changed topic id to match game id. Finally added the other emails in.

But yeah when I initally made this game, I put Bold’s email and my email, because that is all I had. Copy pasted over topic ID and forgot about the game ID.