X-DAP-05 TeamBoldDutch vs. DairyQryn

[boldfresh]

no scrambles to either zone

[boldfresh]

roll the bones COW enough stalling!

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in France, round 1 :  3/17 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 1 :  3/11 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the French , 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the French lost in France
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in France, round 2 :  8/14 hits
                    French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in France, round 2 :  5/9 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the French , 1 armour owned by the French , 1 armour owned by the British , 4 infantry owned by the Germans , 1 artillery owned by the British , 1 artillery owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in France
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in France, round 3 :  2/9 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 fighter in France, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in France
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 7 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 111 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 1 :  3/4 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 battleship owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 40
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 1 :  1/13 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 1 :  1/5 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 2 :  5/12 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Southern France
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys in Southern France, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Southern France
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys in Southern France, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys in Southern France, round 3 :  1/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
                Germans win, taking Southern France from French with 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 cruiser; British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  5/7 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    1 cruiser owned by the French , 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 44
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 bombers moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 fighter moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1
            Germans collect 40 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 59 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 mech_infantrys
    France : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
    Western Germany : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 3 tactical_bombers
    Poland : 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 16 infantry
    Germany : 1 factory_major
    Norway : 4 infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 fighter
    Southern Italy : 1 tactical_bomber
    112 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 submarines
    Bulgaria : 1 flag, 5 infantry
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
    Finland : 1 flag, 5 infantry
    110 Sea Zone : 1 battleship and 1 submarine
    111 Sea Zone : 2 submarines

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 69
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 26 / 26
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 12 / 12
    British : 28 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 12 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[boldfresh]

excellent, i was hoping you would have a very good G1 - no excuses now…  :-)

[Cow]

put dutch’s email in there, whatever that is.

Also put veqryn’s.
~

yeah I am amazed at how many subs lurk.

[Cow]

Hey veqryn, remember at least two of those subs are supposed to have died so you better do something with them! Convoy till it dies!

[Veqryn]

damnit cow

NEVER write someone’s email in PLAIN TEXT

I request a mod to delete my email from cow’s post

[boldfresh]

@Cow:

yeah I am amazed at how many subs lurk.

i’m not - i told you i get the worst dice ever.  i’m just amazed we damaged your battleship.

[boldfresh]

these round 1 moves will probably be some of the longest for us in the game.  so just chill cow - preempting the 30 or so posts you are about to slam the board with over the next 6 hours.  :lol:

[Cow]

Are you saying I should lose the sub and keep a fresh battleship? Nah dawg that ain’t me.

[Gargantua]

Far out!  Time for me to start adding pieces to the board…

[allweneedislove]

@Boldfresh:

excellent, i was hoping you would have a very good G1 - no excuses now…  :-)

great attitude. but you are wrong, that was not a very good g1.
that was the best g1 dice i have seen.

[boldfresh]

@allweneedislove:

@Boldfresh:

excellent, i was hoping you would have a very good G1 - no excuses now…  :-)

great attitude. but you are wrong, that was not a very good g1.
that was the best g1 dice i have seen.

every sub surviving is certainly a rarity.  :-P

so the very best g1 love has ever seen…  hmmmm.  well cow, your luck is legendary but that’s good cuz you’re gonna need every shred of luck you can get.

[Cow]

It would be even better if the french convoy missed and if I walked out with more infantry.

I am only up 2 infantry and 2 subs. That is not that big of a deal, you guys did get 9 ipc worth of bid plus a bomber.

Plus Japan has not gone yet. What happens if Japan has a bad turn? Or UK1 goes smooth? Do we get pieces too?

[boldfresh]

i at least seem to recall one G1 better than that against me, which was Zhukov’s in our league game. crushed paris losing only 5 units AND survived all his subs.  course he didn’t take southern france AS WELL, so yeah, i think this qualifies as better you’re right love.

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :1

Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Volgograd
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            1 fighter placed in Russia
            Russians undo move 2.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Sikang : 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
    Yakut S.S.R. : 6 infantry
    Buryatia : 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry
    Belarus : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 8 infantry
    Bryansk : 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Russia : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    Ukraine : 1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys
    Western Ukraine : 1 artillery and 8 infantry
    Volgograd : 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
    Novgorod : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Caucasus : 2 infantry
    125 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    114 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser
    115 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 69
    Russians : 37 / 38
    Japanese : 26 / 26
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 12 / 12
    British : 28 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 12 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Cow]

Do not have the exact statistics but 5%-10% of all games will come out like this. It happens more frequently than you think.

Most people only notice when G1 goes real bad like losing the battle for France or a bunch of air lost, the odds for one battle to go terribly during a turn is 5-10%, which is about the same odds.

Compared to the average results + a couple of subs is not going to break the game the same way losing a battle of France breaks the game.

Southern france only got me +1 income. Those units would die to Italy anyway so it is not a huge issue from the big picture of things. The big picture is all that matters for the allies anyway.

The upper 0-5% is total loss 0-6 infantry on g1, which is something you will experience about as often as losing France battle. It does happen, but the nice thing is that those infantry are in France (far away from Russia) so you do get time to make your own luck happen. Where as losing France (which happened twice in this game) has a deeper impact as it cuts into the potential for taking london over and the potential for taking Russia over as mech moves to Russia in time for an ideal attack.

[boldfresh]

thanks professor cow where is j 1

[boldfresh]

What are the chances of an upper 5% g1 followed by an upper 5% j1 and when that happens what should the allies do?  just a rhetorical question…  :roll:  usually its what happens in games against me.

[boldfresh]

weird, i figured we’d see j1 right away