• No, I meant redeeming. The redeeming thing in my mind was how Neo didn’t decide like the other Ones did, thereby breaking the cycle of fate, to some degree; although his decision was still pre-determined.
    While the concept of Neo being the savior of mankind makes him subject to a heightened status I don’t think he deserves the god-like praise that he recieves (and he seems to recieve gladly). I see him more like a hero than a god; he’s got something special, but he’s not better than the rest of the citizens of Zion. As for there being two Matrices, that would explain the powers that Neo uses at the end, but it still doesn’t elivate him to being a god by any means. Just the concept of praising a man as a god (especially Keanu Reeves) just doesn’t seem right to me.


  • @El:

    Anybody hear the talk about the movie series basically being a Bible ripoff? With things like Trinity(Mary Magdalene), resurrection, wWhat’s-his-name(John the Baptist). There’s more, but I didn’t catch it all…

    Actually, if you see it as a bible-ripoff only, then you don’t know too much about other religions and philosphy :).
    The (first) Matrix movie is just full of symbols, metaphors and parabels (correct word?). The resurrection, well you have that in egyptian mythology. Being born again (!, as Neo is the One reborn) is something that would contradict christianity, but is common in many other faiths.
    For the ressurrection, the symbolic kiss is more important: the kiss/breath of life. etc. etc.

    @bossk:

    Just the concept of praising a man as a god (especially Keanu Reeves) just doesn’t seem right to me.

    A common trait in the history of mankind, to over-glorify and mystify leaders (wether spiritual or others). Happens in many many religions, with sons and daugthers of gods, or humans reaching god/ god-like status.


  • @F_alk:

    Actually, if you see it as a bible-ripoff only, then you don’t know too much about other religions and philosphy :).

    Oh, thou who seeest the world on the point of a needle…
    I do not wish to discuss the limited religious understanding of others.
    It would take to long to express my own.
    I am a Pedestrian Yeshuan Jew. The only one.

    How about Lawrence Fishburne’s opinion of those who criticized The Matrix: Reloaded!!
    See…
    http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-12324684,00.html

    I think I’ll boycott his movies since he cannot handle criticism. Let us see how he handles a boycott. He’ll likely cry, “Sensorship!” as the other Hollywood dipsticks who do not understand the concept of choice… Hershey or Snickers…Merlot or Cabernet… Matrix III or Citizen Kane.


  • yyyes! go laurence fishburne 8) lol I agree with him…I dont think this movie should get any criticism! I believe that becauce I think that The Matrix (both the original, and Reloaded…and I’m sure Revolutions will follow suit) are incredible movies, and an incredible concept. I believe if anyone actually really committed themselves to researching and thinking and watching everything that has to do with the Matrix, they’d see that it’s a truly amazing film. I can’t wait to see the final one!


  • I believe there are either a) 2 Matrixes (Matricies?) or b) Neo is a god.

    I am leaning toward Neo being a god. Would go along with the philosophic form of the movie.


  • @El:

    I am a Pedestrian Yeshuan Jew. The only one.

    Sounds interesting :D …
    i wonder wether my Pedestrian and Public Transportation Atheism can be related to that ;)


  • F_alk! you Evil Energy Wasting Pollutist! Be helled…I mean ‘healed!’

    What the gehenna am I doing?! I don’t want you healed or proselytized.
    I want a private audience with my G_d, a private hell or a private nothing(no witnesses.)

    What’s the difference between a private hell and a private nothing?


  • lmfao…someone posted this comment on the message boards for Matrix: Reloaded at imdb.com. I had to repost it here, haha it just cracks me up. I doubt anyone else will laugh as hard as I did, but thats ok :wink:

    “Have you guys noticed how great the Keymaker is. He is so small and quick. The man can run faster than two full grown, physically fit adults; and he has to open the doors! Sure one might think that scurrying around doesnt make a person interesting, but this guy is always out of harms way(until the end of course). It is so great when Neo and Morpheus are fighting the Smiths in the hall and the Keymaker leaves and comes back through another door, damn now thats quick thinking. The guy is also extremely handy he can get you a key to anything, and a person can carry him around with out a problem. He is like one big key you can keep in your pocket, and use on any door.”

    lmfao its just hilarious to me :lol: :lol:


  • All through the scenes where Neo and co. were searching for the keymaker I kept wanting them to say, I am the gate keeper, are you the key master? I think that would have made it 10x better just on its own.


  • :o Who ya gonna call? :-?
    Ghostbusters! 8) :P

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