Looks like I did count he right number of German stacks. So all I’ve had to change on my map facsimile is a couple of names:
Hesse-Hanover (either would be valid)
Swabia-Alsace
Burgundy-Lorraine
Larry has gone for “Holland” over the Netherlands; reluctantly, I’ll have to change that too.
Fighters move at 2 - excellent. Leaves room for the lightly armed but longer ranged reconnaissance plane in my HRs.
P.S. Reading through the last report, there is no mention of Germany having a border with Livonia. Surely “Poland” hasn’t been given access to the sea - in 1914?
Added a couple of the Submarine interdiction zones, but where is the 3rd?
P.S. Reading through the last report, there is no mention of Germany having a border with Livonia. Surely “Poland” hasn’t been given access to the sea - in 1914?
I figure we have to wait 2 more months to tell
It only takes one aircraft to radio in the enemy positions.
It takes a lot of artillery to smash holes in enemy defences. Actually it might make more sense that an attacking artillery reduces each defending infantry to 2; defending artillery reduces attacking infantry to 1.
Since the rule on naval bases precludes (I assume) there being more than one NB on any SZ, a provisional placement of NBs on the attached map.
Its possible that Kiel could serve both SZs, which would make an NB in Berlin or Prussia possible.
Left out Canada as L didn’t mention the attack on that SZ facing mines.
Placed Russia’s Black Sea fleet at Rostov, since the western Black Sea SZ evidently “belongs” to Turkey.
That stuff about fleets “leaving port” must mean leaving the protection of its mine field zone.
Also, less likely to be in the game, are 5 UK SZs I’ve put in the SW:
Alexandria, Suez, Aden, Mombassa & Bombay.
If they are on there, I just hope Britain can’t build BBs in any of them.
So one artillery can only boost one matching infantry, but one single aircraft can boost hundred artillery ?
Hey IL does Larry have your game that you know of? Are you saying what I think you are saying? If so I would be pretty pissed if I were you.
A lot of those ideas have been knocking about for ages.
Although, I must say, if I owned the copyright to Diplomacy I’d be having a damned good look at that map…
However the the following rules show that LH & co. have been doing their own research and come to some very intelligent conclusions:
tanks defend at 1
fighters move 2
Diplomacy and A&A are both produced by WOTC.
Plenty of things are developed independently. It’s not always important what came first. It’s a WWI game, of course there will be similarities with other WWI games.
Hey IL does Larry have your game that you know of? Are you saying what I think you are saying? If so I would be pretty pissed if I were you.
I am only protecting the fact that or when somebody says in our game: “did you get this idea from Larry?” i want to be sure who had this idea first so its not me looking like I just got this from Larry. Our game is original.
You said you have been playtesting this game for 5 years on another post and I have heard other members talk about playing your game. I didn’t know to what extent your game was already out there IL. That is why I asked. I personally plan on buying your game and this one so no big deal.
Ok thanks. But when somebody does say it i can back up my claims. And they will.
Again, who knows who had the idea first. No one is doubting that yours was developed independently, but to get into a stink about who had it first is childish at best. For all we know Larry could have had a lot of this on the back burner for years.
Oh dear god. It’s not a stink. It is a record for posterity because somebody will mention it in the future. I’ve been around too long.
All I’m saying is that it’s one thing to say you thought of it independently, it’s another to say who got it first and to care about who did.
It takes a lot of artillery to smash holes in enemy defences. Actually it might make more sense that an attacking artillery reduces each defending infantry to 2; defending artillery reduces attacking infantry to 1.
Nahh, I dont think artillery would reduce the opposing forces combat value. The defending infantry are still protected by minefields and dug-in trenches, and when the barrage is finished, they jump out and start the gatling gun. Thats why the attacker invented the tanks. Actually I think tanks should boost one matching infantry in attack. But for playability and simple battle rules, I figure Larry do it the right way
I just don’t want somebody saying i took these ideas, when i had them first. I care about that.
Love the mine rules and the unrestricted submarine warfare. Great new stuff Larry! Overall seems cool. One thing I wish would have been represented in the game is why the Germans attacked through Belgium in the first place! The French had a very well fortified frontier with Germany. It would of been great to introduce forts in this game either on the map or as a piece. Probably something ripe for house rules. Also has anyone felt surprised that the attacking infantry/artillery have a higher attack value then their A&A WWII counterparts? Is that to help make up for them only being able to attack one round?
I like the rules so far too. I wish there was heavy artillery and Zeppelins. I wish you could build railroads and fortifications unfortunately that doesn’t appear to be a part of this game. I know this was another thread but I can totally see a second and even possibly third edition on this baby.
@Imperious:
I just don’t want somebody saying i took these ideas, when i had them first. I care about that.
Again, how do you know you had them first? Plenty of big ideas are developed independently. Think of Newton and Leibniz. What good will it do to say “I had these ideas before Larry,” when all you really know is that you developed the ideas separately. Larry quite likely could have had these ideas or similar ones on the back burner for years, decades even.
No one is saying that you stole the idea, but it’s too much to act like you definitely had the ideas before Larry just because we are seeing him publish them now. We know he’s had a rough cut of a WWI game since at least 2004.
All you got to say is that you developed the idea on you own. It’s too much to claim you had the ideas fist when you really can’t back that up.
Love the mine rules and the unrestricted submarine warfare. Great new stuff Larry! Overall seems cool. One thing I wish would have been represented in the game is why the Germans attacked through Belgium in the first place! The French had a very well fortified frontier with Germany. It would of been great to introduce forts in this game either on the map or as a piece. Probably something ripe for house rules. Also has anyone felt surprised that the attacking infantry/artillery have a higher attack value then their A&A WWII counterparts? Is that to help make up for them only being able to attack one round?
I was thinking the same thing with inf and art. With only 1 round of combat this will help ensure a little more action.
…and because they hit on 2 and 3, its less dice rolling
