13L G40.2 Gamerman01 (Allies +9) vs. Jeff28 (Axis)

[gamerman01]

Wrong again, change the artillery to a mech

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :8

Research Technology - British
            British spend 5 on tech rolls
            British removing all Technology Tokens after unsuccessful research.

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 125 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

Combat - British
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                British attack with 1 artillery and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery
                1 fighter owned by the British retreated
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                1 submarine owned by the Germans Submerged
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Eastern Persia
            1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Eastern Persia
            2 fighters moved from Persia to India
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
            1 armour moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Persia
            2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,1
            British collect 34 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 34 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry

[gamerman01]

Forgot to edit the art to a mech until after I posted
This one’s right

[Jeff28]

Isn’t it kinda unfair to change a purchase? Is that standard A&A.org practice?

[gamerman01]

I changed it before my combat move was over.

I didn’t realize you could scramble from Kwangsi and I didn’t ask to take it back

If you want me to stick with my artillery, it’s really insignificant - go right ahead.  And place it in London instead of Iraq.

[gamerman01]

You can see from the time stamps that I wanted to change my purchase before I rolled any dice.

If you were playing face to face, would you not let a guy change his purchase when he’s doing his combat moves?

Yes, it’s common to allow a change in purchase during combat moves, and I would always allow that and have no problem with it.

If you don’t want me to do it in the future, say the word.  Again, this change was extremely minor.

[Jeff28]

Why not just reload the file if you haven’t done combat and start over so the edit is avoided?

[Jeff28]

Because you already rolled tech dice I guess?

[Jeff28]

I get it now, it’s fine.

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

Because you already rolled tech dice I guess?

Yeah, then you’d have to edit the money.
I guess I don’t try too hard to avoid edit mode.  It’s inconvenient to reload.

[Jeff28]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            2 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry; Russians defend with 1 armour
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 1 :  3/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Russians , 1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Trans-Jordan
                Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to 98 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 armour and 1 artillery placed in Northern Italy
            1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone
            Italians undo move 3.
            1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone
            Italians undo move 3.
            1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Trans-Jordan : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Northern Italy : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major and 1 infantry
    Southern Italy : 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    93 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Greece : 1 flag
    97 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    98 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 71
    Russians : 30 / 36
    Japanese : 60 / 57
    Americans : 61 / 86
    Chinese : 0 / 5
    British : 34 / 34
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 14 / 20
    ANZAC : 13 / 20
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[gamerman01]

Still playing respectably regular for a busy man

Much appreciated, Jeff

You receive Gamerman’s “gamer of the month” award, for finding the proper balance between work and games

:-D

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                  ANZAC take 43 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 bomber moved from India to Malaya

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Paulau Island
            Battle in Malaya
                ANZAC attack with 1 bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Japanese win, taking Paulau Island from Japanese with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 bomber

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
            1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine placed in 54 Sea Zone
            2 transports placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :8

Combat Move - French

[Jeff28]

Going to have to look up the paratroopers for Germ turn. Are they an inf carried by an air unit out of a airbase for attack?

So any undefended territory w/in 3 of Moscow or Novo later you can take? Can you send more than one to a territory? How many maximum for a territory and turn?

Thx.

[gamerman01]

No problem, Jeff.

I can send 1 or 2 infantry directly from an airbase (no aircraft required) at ONE ENEMY territory that I am ALSO attacking with at least ONE other ground unit.  And the enemy territory has to be within 3 spaces of the airbase.

You can do this from each airbase, but I only control one, currently.

So I can only launch 2 infantry max per turn up to 3 spaces in a combat move (you can’t non-com them)

Does that answer all your questions?
Do you have access to an E40 rulebook?  If not, I can type the rule up for you.

[gamerman01]

Not sure why you said “undefended”

I can add 2 infantry to a battle against a big stack, as long as it’s within 3 spaces of my airbase.

[Jeff28]

I guess I was picturing a strat bomber carrying an inf behind my front lines to take Poland or something.

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

I guess I was picturing a strat bomber carrying an inf behind my front lines to take Poland or something.

That was exactly what you could do in AA50.
It IS possible to go behind enemy lines, if you can get a ground unit there that is NOT a paratrooper (like off a transport).
If you think of anything else you’re concerned about, just continue to ask and I will certainly do my best to give you a thorough, correct answer.

Anyway, here’s the text from the 2nd edition rulebook:
Up to 2 of your infantry units in each territory with an air base can be moved to an enemy controlled territory 3 or fewer spaces away that is being attacked by your land units from adjacent territories and/or by amphibious assault.  When moving, paratroopers must obey the same restrictions that air units do.  If the territory being attacked has AAA (antiaircraft artillery) units, the paratrooper infantry units are subject to antiaircraft fire in the same way as air units.  If attacking along with land units from adjacent territories, paratroopers may retreat as normal.

I believe “same restrictions that air units do” means that you can’t move paratroopers over neutrals.
Note that since they are subject to AAA fire, they can actually serve to shield your aircraft because you could lose paratrooper infantry first.

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

@Jeff28:

I guess I was picturing a strat bomber carrying an inf behind my front lines to take Poland or something.

That was exactly what you could do in AA50.
It IS possible to go behind enemy lines, if you can get a ground unit there that is NOT a paratrooper (like off a transport).
If you think of anything else you’re concerned about, just continue to ask and I will certainly do my best to give you a thorough, correct answer.

Anyway, here’s the text from the 2nd edition rulebook:
Up to 2 of your infantry units in each territory with an air base can be moved to an enemy controlled territory 3 or fewer spaces away that is being attacked by your land units from adjacent territories and/or by amphibious assault.  When moving, paratroopers must obey the same restrictions that air units do.  If the territory being attacked has AAA (antiaircraft artillery) units, the paratrooper infantry units are subject to antiaircraft fire in the same way as air units.  If attacking along with land units from adjacent territories, paratroopers may retreat as normal.

I believe “same restrictions that air units do” means that you can’t move paratroopers over neutrals.
Note that since they are subject to AAA fire, they can actually serve to shield your aircraft because you could lose paratrooper infantry first.

Sheilding against aa fire would be HUGE.  Are you sure that they can be chose INSTEAD of air?