X-DAP-04 TeamBoldDutch vs. Ancients for 1945

[boldfresh]

this jeopardy song is my head is deafening!!

[boldfresh]

when can we expect a trajan move?

[Gargantua]

Wow… interesting game.

I am struggling a bit to see what the allied plan for victory is.  Other than their plan for sheer survival…

But I’m all ears?

[Trajan01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :11

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Finland
            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Baltic States to Poland
            3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Turkey
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Turkey
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Turkey
            1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Turkey
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Turkey
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Syria
                  Russians take Syria from Germans
            1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Eastern Poland

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Turkey
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Turkey, round 1 :  3/8 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Turkey, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Turkey
                Russians win, taking Turkey from Germans with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Poland
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Poland, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Poland, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland
                Russians win, taking Poland from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Finland
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Finland, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Finland, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                Russians win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            5 armour, 1 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Turkey to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Iraq
            4 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Dzavhan
                  Russians take Dzavhan from Mongolians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Olgiy to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Olgiy
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Finland to Novgorod

Place Units - Russians
            2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            2 armour and 1 fighter placed in Novgorod
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Baltic States: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Novgorod: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Western Ukraine: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Baltic States: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Russians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6
            Russians collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 55 PUs

[Cow]

Wow… interesting game.

I am struggling a bit to see what the allied plan for victory is.  Other than their plan for sheer survival…

But I’m all ears?

The allies do not win in global until they conquer Germany, Italy, and Japan. Both sides are playing the income war right now. I am sure the Axis will go for the VC win eventually.

[Cow]

I think if Russia’s income can grow beyond that of Germany’s then in the long run, maybe taking Germany becomes an option.

I am curious if UK will load USA’s transports with men on one turn then offload the next. Storming the beaches seems like a good idea now that Spain and Portugal are options.

I am curious if Japan can do a pacific win thing… maybe Japan pushes for the VC thing then the Atlantic ships hurry over and stop it.

Who knows where this game will go.

[boldfresh]

“tell you what Cow.  here’s my offer to you - for our game, we will offer you the allies +20 (1 unit per territory) on the current map of our ancients game - R11.  you can take over from there and we will play it out instead of starting a new game.  sound good?”

good news ancients!  cow has agreed to take your allies from R11 with an ADDITIONAL 20 ipc of units, rather than start a new game from scratch IF we advance to play him.  so thats great because if we beat you, he will later show you how you could have won (if you’d had a few more units of course).

cheers

[Cow]

Yeah I would get USA 2 fighters. Try to sink your germany fleet with 50% odds. Then I would take Germany with 69% odds.

I would do that.

[Cow]

That is a brilliant idea bold. Quick game. I like it.

[Cow]

Yeps I don’t have to fight those subs to smack Germany. Your 20 ipc bid is perfect for me, I love it, it is brilliant. Odds improve to 80% with bship bombardment which is totally worth it for taking Berlin.

I don’t even have to win the battle with USA air, 2 carrier 4 dd should beat 3 fighters to take denmark. 10 air should clear out the naval (I don’t have to clear out the fighters, just the destroyers/carriers).

Shazam. OK we can flip a coin to see who wins. I am cool with that.

[Cow]

You see how fast I came up with a way to exploit you? You give me a good chance to take Germany? Is you crazy?

[boldfresh]

as usual you’re wrong.  and the challenge still stands.

[Cow]

How am I wrong?

USA gets 2 fighters, 1 on uk, 1 on his carrier. I attack your naval with 10 fighters, you scramble 3 fighters 50/50 battle. USA takes denmark with 1-3 ground units, attacks the sea zone with 4 dd 2 carrier. On UK’s turn the naval moves 3 spaces to attack Germany with 1 inf 1 arty 3 fighters and a bombardment.

I will do that. You will lose. Then you will cry about dice.

Challenge accepted.

[boldfresh]

i guess you’re right, there is a much better chance of you beating us that way than there is for you to beat us in a game from scratch.  still the chance is only .5 * .8 = 40% and even if you take berlin, you would still lose.

[Cow]

Unlike you, I do not sweat 40% when a capital city is involved, I just do it.

[boldfresh]

taking berlin would not give you the victory cow, that’s what your ridiculously stupid mind doesn’t understand.  geez do i have to spell it out for you?

[boldfresh]

you already accepted the challenge so that’s set in stone.  i’m sure garg will be happy to allow it.

[boldfresh]

what you apparently have no concept of Cow, is that victory is imminent in EITHER theater.  you would have to take down BOTH tokyo AND berlin to beat us.  i’m glad you already accepted the challenge though.  maybe you can make it out of the XTRA death bracket and get one more shot to beat us 2 times in a row.  if so, i will allow you to use one or BOTH of those attempts by taking the allies at +20 after R11 on this board.

[Cow]

I have attacked capitals with worse odds than that. True it would not give me a victory. It would totally screw Europe up. Then I can have UK push for India so I can stop you from winning there.

If germany lost it’s capital, it might not even survive against Russia taking it several rounds later. So it would just be on you to win in the Pacific.

[boldfresh]

well, you will get one shot to try it in the championship of the winners bracket.  then you can have one OR two more shots at it IF you are able to beat Atlanta Axis a second time…  :lol: