Napolenic Empires. 8 players free for all game

[Major Major]

Noll, game is young. Dont give up.

[Major Major]

by the way, just load last map I sent and we are good to go.

[Degrasse]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 8 Player, version: 4.0.8

Game History

Round :4

Combat Move - Spain
            1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers moved from Alemtejo to SZ47
            1 Artillery, 2 Barques, 1 Corvette, 1 Cutter and 1 Fusiliers moved from SZ47 to SZ53
            1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness moved from Andalusia to SZ53
            2 Fusilierss moved from SZ53 to Tangiers
            1 Artillery moved from SZ53 to Tangiers
            2 Mariness moved from SZ53 to Tangiers

Purchase Units - Spain
            Spain buy 1 Frigate, 3 Howitzers, 1 Marines and 1 Mortella_Tower; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Spain
            Battle in Tangiers
                Spain attack with 1 Artillery, 2 Fusilierss and 2 Mariness
                Neutral defend with 2 Fusilierss and 2 Hussarss
                    Spain roll dice for 1 Frigate in Tangiers, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Hussars owned by the Neutral lost in Tangiers
                    Spain roll dice for 1 Artillery, 2 Fusilierss and 2 Mariness in Tangiers, round 1 :  1/5 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 2 Fusilierss and 1 Hussars in Tangiers, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    1 Hussars owned by the Neutral lost in Tangiers
                    Spain roll dice for 1 Artillery, 2 Fusilierss and 2 Mariness in Tangiers, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 2 Fusilierss in Tangiers, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    2 Fusilierss owned by the Neutral and 1 Fusiliers owned by the Spain lost in Tangiers
                Spain win, taking Tangiers from Neutral with 1 Artillery, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Spain: 1 Fusiliers
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 Fusilierss and 2 Hussarss

Non Combat Move - Spain
            1 Marines moved from New Castille to Andalusia
            1 Artillery moved from Andalusia to New Castille
            1 Fusiliers moved from Andalusia to New Castille

Place Units - Spain
            1 Mortella_Tower placed in Alemtejo
            1 Marines placed in Andalusia
            3 Howitzers placed in New Castille
            1 Frigate placed in SZ53

Turn Complete - Spain
            Spain collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Territory Summary for Spain :

Tangiers : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness
    Alemtejo : 1 flag, 1 Encampment and 1 Mortella_Tower
    Oporto : 1 flag
    Andalusia : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 2 Mariness
    SZ53 : 3 Barques, 2 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 1 Cutter and 2 Frigates
    New Castille : 1 Artillery, 1 Capital, 1 Fortress, 4 Fusilierss, 3 Howitzers and 1 Mortella_Tower

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 61 / 59
    UnitedKingdom : 53 / 49
    Spain : 31 / 31
    KingdomOfPrussia : 36 / 40
    Sweden : 19 / 23
    AustrianEmpire : 33 / 33
    OttomanEmpire : 37 / 39
    Russia : 35 / 39

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 5 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.500
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.800
        Standard Deviation : 0.894
        Total rolls : 16

Neutral Combat
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4.000
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.250
        Standard Deviation : 1.118
        Total rolls : 5

Spain Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.273
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.300
        Standard Deviation : 1.140
        Total rolls : 11

[Noll]

You want me to play? I will play.

Although I don’t have much luck with alliances and stuffs in this game.
I still fail to see the advantage of UK making my small fleet being crushed by France other than crippling an already weak player that was trying to help him.

[Major Major]

I’m on a steep learning curve in this game and did nothing malicious.  If we all play well there should be several top player changes as we all want to win.  It seems like a bad rule that I wouldn’t help defend an ally.  Even if I do have a ceasefire with the attacker…  By definition an ally should come to another ally’s aid.  Why doesn’t the game take that into account?

[Gekkepop]

Because in this game your units attack only those with which you are at war. The move itself was actually not bad, it weakened two of your competitors (we’re all competitors after all) at no cost to yourself.

[Major Major]

What is the point of an alliance in this game then?

[Gekkepop]

You can’t go from alliance straight to war so it is much more difficult to backstab someone (and thus much easier to trust that person) when you are allied.

[Witt]

Sorry Noll. I was only safeguarding my interests(Egypt). I accepted a UK Ceasefire as I could take one of you out of the picture. I thought we were all trying to win.
It is an excellent game because of the possibilities created by the POlitical Table.
Let us play on.

[Stalingradski]

Thank you guys -

[Guest]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 8 Player, version: 4.0.8

Game History

Round :4

Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
            1 Dragoons moved from Volhynia to Kiev
                  KingdomOfPrussia take Kiev from Russia
            1 Dragoons moved from Kiev to Kazan
                  KingdomOfPrussia take Kazan from Russia
            1 Dragoons moved from Minsk to Severia
                  KingdomOfPrussia take Severia from Russia
            1 Chasseurs moved from Minsk to Smolensk
                  KingdomOfPrussia take Smolensk from Russia
            1 Artillery moved from Latvia to Lithuania
            1 Grenadiers moved from Latvia to Lithuania
            1 Chasseurs moved from Latvia to Lithuania
            1 Hussars moved from Latvia to Lithuania
            1 Dragoons moved from Severia to Volhynia
            1 Fusiliers moved from Volhynia to Severia
            1 Fusiliers moved from Latvia to Esthonia
            1 Hussars moved from Latvia to Lithuania
            1 Fusiliers moved from Latvia to Lithuania
            1 Fusiliers moved from Latvia to Esthonia
            1 Chasseurs moved from Lithuania to Latvia
            1 Chasseurs moved from Volhynia to Minsk
            1 Cuirassiers, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Grenadiers, 1 Howitzer and 1 Hussars moved from Prussia to Lithuania
            1 Fusiliers moved from Pomerania to Prussia
            1 Howitzer moved from Mecklenburg to Pomerania
            1 Howitzer moved from Magdeburg to Brandenburg
            1 Fusiliers moved from Magdeburg to Brandenburg
            1 Hussars moved from Silesia to Prussia
            1 Dragoons moved from Saxony to Pomerania
            1 Artillery moved from Saxony to Brandenburg
            2 Fusilierss moved from Hesse to Saxony
            1 Dragoons moved from Rhine to Saxony
            1 Dragoons moved from Rhine to Saxony
            1 Horse_Artillery moved from Rhine to Saxony
            1 Howitzer moved from Rhine to Hesse
            1 Chasseurs moved from Saxony to Magdeburg
            1 Chasseurs moved from Krakow to Volhynia
            1 Fusiliers moved from Volhynia to Warszowa
            1 Artillery moved from Volhynia to Warszowa
            1 Brigantine moved from SZ10 to SZ11
            1 Corvette moved from SZ4 to SZ7

Purchase Units - KingdomOfPrussia
            KingdomOfPrussia buy 3 Fusilierss, 4 Howitzers and 3 Hussarss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - KingdomOfPrussia
            Battle in Esthonia
                KingdomOfPrussia attack with 2 Fusilierss
                Russia defend with 1 Mortella_Tower
                KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Esthonia from Russia with 1 Fusiliers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Fusiliers
                Casualties for Russia: 1 Mortella_Tower

Non Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia

Place Units - KingdomOfPrussia
            3 Fusilierss, 3 Howitzers and 1 Hussars placed in Prussia
            1 Howitzer and 2 Hussarss placed in Pomerania

Turn Complete - KingdomOfPrussia
            KingdomOfPrussia collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            Objective KingdomOfPrussia destroys TUV: KingdomOfPrussia met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 49 PUs

[pr0c3ss]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 8 Player, version: 4.0.8

Game History

Round :4

Combat Move - Sweden
            1 Marines moved from Norvege to Bohus
            1 Artillery moved from Bohus to Vastra Gotaland
            2 Dragoonss moved from Lappland to Svealand

Purchase Units - Sweden
            Sweden buy 2 Barques and 1 Marines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Non Combat Move - Sweden

Place Units - Sweden
            1 Marines placed in Svealand
            2 Barques placed in SZ6

Turn Complete - Sweden
            Sweden collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs total

[Stalingradski]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 8 Player, version: 4.0.8

Game History

Round :4

Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
            1 Fusiliers moved from Umbria to Eturia
            1 Chasseurs moved from Lombardi to Eturia
            1 Artillery moved from Lombardi to Eturia
            1 Horse_Artillery moved from Lombardi to Eturia
            1 Charles and 4 Dragoonss moved from Lombardi to Eturia
            1 Cuirassiers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars moved from Venetia to Eturia
            2 Mariness moved from Umbria to Eturia

Purchase Units - AustrianEmpire
            AustrianEmpire buy 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Cuirassiers, 2 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Mortella_Tower; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - AustrianEmpire
            Battle in Eturia
                AustrianEmpire attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Charles, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Cuirassiers, 4 Dragoonss, 1 Fusiliers, 2 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Hussars and 2 Mariness
                France defend with 1 Fusiliers
                AustrianEmpire win, taking Eturia from France with 1 Artillery, 1 Charles, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Cuirassiers, 4 Dragoonss, 1 Fusiliers, 2 Horse_Artillerys and 2 Mariness remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for France: 1 Fusiliers
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 1 Hussars

Non Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
            1 Fusiliers moved from Bologna to Lombardi
            2 Barques, 1 Brigantine and 1 Frigate moved from SZ76 to SZ77
            1 General moved from Slovenia to SZ77
            1 Fusiliers moved from Slovenia to SZ77
            1 Fusiliers moved from SZ77 to Bologna
            1 General moved from SZ77 to Bologna
            1 Horse_Artillery and 2 Hussarss moved from Austria to Venetia
            1 Chasseurs and 1 Howitzer moved from Slovenia to Venetia
            1 Chasseurs moved from Tyrol to Salzburg
            1 Chasseurs moved from Bavaria to Salzburg
            1 Fusiliers moved from Austria to Bohemia
            1 Fusiliers moved from Bohemia to Bavaria

Place Units - AustrianEmpire
            1 Mortella_Tower placed in Austria
            1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Cuirassiers, 2 Fusilierss and 1 Horse_Artillery placed in Austria

Turn Complete - AustrianEmpire
            AustrianEmpire collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Objective AustrianEmpire destroys TUV: AustrianEmpire met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 38 PUs

[Stalingradski]

Is this game over? It seemed to have a lot of potential. I just want to know so I won’t get my hopes up  :-)

[Gekkepop]

We’re just waiting for Noll, he said he would be back. If he isn’t we can still get an AI to replace him, though I would prefer not to.

[Witt]

Is Gekkepop after Noll, so I say he chooses when he wants to have his go: how long you want to wait.
Think the rest of us want to play.
I love this game and would play more.
Maybe we have 4 players playing 2 countries each next!
Would have to be no politics. France/Spain. Sweden/Ottomans. UK/Prussia. Austria/Russia.
Do people think that would work? Would have to be 2 sides.
I know the politics are half the fun, but they make it very slow.

[Stalingradski]

Thankd guys for responses -

[Major Major]

sweden/ottomans seems weak.

[Gekkepop]

So you don’t mind if I just let the AI play Ottomans and post the turn after that? I think I’ll wait a bit longer (will be very busy the next week anyway) but if Noll isn’t back by then it may be better to just move on.

[Witt]

Agreed.
If we find is not working without a human player, then we rethink.

I know Sweden/Ottomans is the weakest link in the 4 player idea, but I think France and UK on opposite sides is the best set up.
They are the only two allies who cannot help each other as they are on opposite sides of the map. Just thought we could try a four player version.
Not sure how we would decide a winner!