WHERE did I say that USA and USSR had, have, or should have the ability to attack at any time in ANY version, 1940 or WWI? Where did I say that (other than in your mind)? Please stick to writing your own posts and stop writing mine in your own head and then responding to those fantasy posts.
What you did say is Global 40 has variable entry, but it does not.
By the way, what turn does USA enter the war in Global 1940? What turn does Russia enter the war? You mean it’s not the same turn every game. You mean it VARIES? But it’s still not variable entry eh?
It is FIXED UNLESS THE AXIS start it early. Those allies don’t have the opportunity to start early. One side determines their fate, not both. It is not complicated.
Take a step back. Or four. If you had read my posts you would have seen that when I was talking about the provocation points, I was referring to their potential in a WWI game. Nowhere did I say that anyone should be able to declare war at anytime.
You advocate a point system were early entry is possible, and i advocate a fixed turn where collapse is only possible STARTING ON THAT TURN. I try to explain this but you don’t get it.
The simple FACT of the matter is that Global is a game where big events, such as beginnings of hostilities between powers, happen in DIFFERENT turns each game. And is that automatically “busted”?
NO BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ALLOW THOSE ALLIES TO ATTACK GERMANY EARLY. The only way for that to happen is if Germany feels it is advantageous to attack them early. Both sides do not have a choice.
Quote from: Imperious Leader on Today at 06:22:43 pm
IN the Great War example, we set the fixed date where you can start rolling for collapse. If the game didn’t have that, it also would be busted.
Prove it. Seriously, you say that, but where is any evidence? Why is a system that requires multiple turns of cumulative events automatically “busted”?
You would need to be at the table during playtesting and that has already occurred. When you buy the game you can do whatever you want.
Quote from: Imperious Leader on Today at 06:22:43 pm
I have no idea why this is complicated. It has a fixed minimum threshold where you start rolling and the modifiers are dependent on control by central powers of specific areas. If the Russian player does really well, they still need this fixed rule for entry.
That is not fixed like you were suggesting earlier. That is variable. What turn does the revolution happen? It depends. Therefore variable. I have no idea why this is so complicated.
SIGH–- it does not begin before turn 10. You cant even roll before that turn. Jesus.
Quote from: Imperious Leader on Today at 06:22:43 pm
It does not happen BEFORE TURN X. That is why i say the turn is fixed.
You must be a politician since you backtrack like that:
Quote from: Imperious Leader on December 11, 2012, 05:06:16 pm
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Britain joins after an attack on any neutral (only the CPs can ever attack neutrals!)
USA really needs a chart to track its attitude to war; its entry certainly shouldn’t be automatic after X turns.
The game would be ruined since the Central powers would avoid UK the entire game, A variable entry USA is also a game breaker. It must be fixed because the games balancing would prove impossible. The game must be Historical, not full of nitpicking rules that destroy play balance.
In that post it’s pretty clear from that post that you were suggesting that USA entering after X turns is a good idea. It’s fascinating how you show your system (which allows for variable entry) only AFTER I post my point about how a russian revolution would be insane if it happened on turn X no matter what since Germany would only need to hold the line for long enough for it to happen.
Quote from: Imperious Leader on Today at 06:22:43 pm
I am not arguing against your ideas, you are arguing against mine. Get it straight. I didn’t first quote you, you quoted me.
So the fact that I first disagreed with your fixed entry means that you never actually made posts like this that argued against my point?
“Like Global 40, you can’t have variable entry”
The point is that you actually do agree that the revolution is important to not have happen automatically on turn X, you just can’t be an adult (man or woman, I’ve never met you) who can admit it.
Your point is a entry at any time. Mine is that it can only start on a fixed turn in order to keep balance. Your “rebuttal” is that Global has variable turn entry, mine is that is not the case: USSR and USA cannot attack Axis Europe before their turns on their own accord. You seem to skip that every-time. I find it hilarious!