G40.2 Fortress (Axis) vs. Eqqman (Allies) no bid, no tech

[Eqqman]

@Fortress:

I didn’t even see I had a sub there until the combat phase started. Rather than restart my turn and redo all of my combat moves so that I could move him out of there, in the interests of time I just edited him out and into the Iceland seazone.

Isn’t that an illegal move?  I placed those DDs there specifically to cancel the sub’s ability to move out of the way and give myself a high probability of killing it.  If I thought you could just slip it out anyway I would have made a different buy UK1.

[Fortress]

Every unit on the board can choose to move out of naval combat on their combat move; it’s not a sub ability that can be cancelled by the presence of a destroyer (if it was 3 battleships and 10 transports, they could do the same thing). In any case, you can go chase him down with a destroyer and kill him even easier on defense than if the sub attacked.

The only times you see this used is if a sub submerged in defense on an opponent’s previous turn, if somebody has just declared war, or if somebody built on top of naval.

In previous versions of the game, you couldn’t build naval in a contested seazone. You can, now. But on the attacker’s own turn, they get to move to avoid combat in their combat phase.

[Eqqman]

Pretty sad… Russia spends one turn buying land units and Germany does two rounds of naval, and I still can’t drop enough men into E. Poland to discourage an attack.  I’m not sure how I could have possibly made the front lines any stiffer.

[Eqqman]

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 armour, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Belarus to Rostov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Rostov
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            5 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            18 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
            3 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Belarus

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            2 aaGuns moved from Buryatia to Amur

Place Units - Russians
            3 armour placed in Volgograd
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Novgorod

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

[Fortress]

Yeah, I can’t say I’ve ever done that before. The second round wasn’t part of the plan. But I could save 48 IPC of Italy’s units by spending 37 IPC of German production and by landing planes that weren’t needed anywhere else. Mitigates that debacle on I1 just a tiny bit.

[Fortress]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese

Combat - Japanese

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            7 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            4 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 aaGun, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Manchuria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Manchuria
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 aaGun moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Siam
            1 artillery moved from 37 Sea Zone to Siam
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi

Place Units - Japanese
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu
            4 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Paulau Island : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kwangsi : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
    Kiangsu : 1 flag, 2 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
    Japan : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Siam : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Manchuria : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 7 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
    Suiyuyan : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Hunan : 1 flag
    Hopei : 1 flag, 3 infantry
    Chahar : 1 flag
    Anhwe : 1 flag
    37 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 transport
    36 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports
    35 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
    6 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 4 submarines

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 46 / 57
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 32 / 42
    Americans : 52 / 53
    Chinese : 6 / 8
    British : 29 / 35
    UK_Pacific : 21 / 21
    Italians : 12 / 13
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 7 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Eqqman]

Remind me to ask when this is all over why the Japanese DD is parked outside manila; I can’t figure out what advantage it provides that wouldn’t be better served doing something else.

[Fortress]

I was wondering that myself this turn. Now that you ask, here’s what I think it was for. On J1 he was a blocker preventing the BB from using the Naval Base on Malaya to hit the undefended transports off Formosa. Normally I think I leave him on the Carolines so on the turn I DOW, I have a blocker that can reach 38 different seazones.

After J1? I was confused as to what he was doing there so I just left him there.  :lol:

I’d have to say this is not my normal playing style. But it’s been a couple months since I’ve played as the Axis, so I’m just piecing together some things done against me that I wanted to try.

Once the dice start rolling, every plan is a hybrid anyway.

FWIW, I feel like on C1, Yunnan is worth the zero IPC trade (-10 IPC fighter +3 IPC infantry +1 IPC territory +6 IPC bonus) and the loss of the irreplaceable Flying Tigers to hold for a turn. Once the Japanese airforce lands there, it’s gone until Japan decides it doesn’t want it anymore. Of course, it’s a moot point if another infantry comes along, too. China and Africa are the two places that you need overkill or risk getting diced because of the unit scarcity.

[Eqqman]

Roosevelt makes the gamble of his career.

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 harbour, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to Eastern United States
            1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 23 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Guam to Wake Island
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Eastern United States

Place Units - Americans
            1 harbour placed in Southeast Mexico
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            Americans undo move 2.
            1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

[Eqqman]

Chiang Kai-Shek debates a suicide against the stack in Yunnan to support a possible British offensive but decides against it.

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            10 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Shensi

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Shensi

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs total

[Fortress]

His people aren’t going to like that… If he keeps that up, he’s gonna find himself stuck on a tiny island when this is all over…

[Fortress]

CKS, not FDR - in case there was any confusion. FDR is leaving feet first regardless of outcome, I would imagine.  :lol:

[Eqqman]

@Fortress:

CKS, not FDR - in case there was any confusion. FDR is leaving feet first regardless of outcome, I would imagine.  :lol:

Heh heh…

A bit frustrating playing 6 countries yet only having 1 of them be allowed to actually do anything…

Churchill makes a gamble in Africa that doesn’t pay off and once again relies on Eglantine price and her band of cockney moppets to guard the shores of England.  FYI, I had to open up edit mode again.  When I moved my planes from UK1 over to India, I had assigned them to the UK Pacific as the owner, which made them immovable UK2.  I had to replace them with UK Europe planes.

Game History

Round :2

Combat Move - British
            1 unit repaired.
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by UK_Pacific from West India: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to West India: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
                  British take Alexandria from Italians
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Kenya
            1 cruiser moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 79 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                  British take 106 Sea Zone from Germans
            1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 123 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from West India to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from West India to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to Iraq

Combat - British
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                British win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine and 1 transport
            Battle in 123 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British win with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Iraq
                British attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
            Battle in Kenya
                British attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Italians win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 armour moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 bomber moved from 123 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
                  British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
            3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                  UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Persia
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Persia
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Persia

Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Game History

Round :2

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 aaGun, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 aaGun, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

[Fortress]

It’s weird that I didn’t get any of those die rolls. I’m not worried because it’s just a friendly game. Maybe it was run in local mode instead of PBEM? If it was a league game, you’d want to make sure that got rerun. But zero worries here  :-)

[Eqqman]

I was surprised I didn’t get any rolls either.  When I download your file, I pick load saved game and then start local game.  Is this the wrong procedure?  It might explain why I get an error when I try to post the turn summaries.

[Eqqman]

Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.6.1.2, time: 19:23:36

[Eqqman]

Ah… it is confusing since strictly speaking I have to start a new game every turn, I can’t just grab the save file and assume that everything is happening correctly behind the scenes.  I should start doing it the right way now.

[Fortress]

Do “load saved game” and then “start pbem” which is right below “start local”. That should take care of the problem.  :-)

[Fortress]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :2

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 unit repaired.
            2 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                  Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 artillery moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                  Italians take Algeria from French

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Syria
            Battle in Alexandria
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Alexandria, round 1 :  0/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria
                Italians win, taking Syria from French, taking Alexandria from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 battleship moved from 93 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            2 aaGuns and 4 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2,6
            Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Alexandria : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Kenya : 1 flag
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Algeria : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Syria : 1 flag, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Romania : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Northern Italy : 1 flag, 1 factory_major and 1 infantry
    Libya : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 6 infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 2 armour
    99 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 battleship and 2 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 46 / 57
    Russians : 36 / 37
    Japanese : 32 / 42
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 6 / 8
    British : 30 / 31
    UK_Pacific : 25 / 25
    Italians : 16 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 3 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 7 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.500
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.158
        Standard Deviation : 1.076
        Total rolls : 20

Null / Other
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.400
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.750
        Standard Deviation : 1.323
        Total rolls : 5

British Combat
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.400
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.750
        Standard Deviation : 1.323
        Total rolls : 5

Italians Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.600
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 0.667
        Standard Deviation : 0.816
        Total rolls : 10

[Eqqman]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 artilleries and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
                  ANZAC take Celebes from Dutch
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 52 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 15 PUs total

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 46 / 57
    Russians : 36 / 37
    Japanese : 32 / 42
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 6 / 8
    British : 30 / 31
    UK_Pacific : 25 / 25
    Italians : 16 / 15
    ANZAC : 13 / 15
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0