BotA - r3 - 270BC - Ajmdemen .vs. Pug6000

[pug6000]

And of course you are welcome to point out my mistakes as soon as telling me doesnt hurt your own plans anymore.

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic buy 1 city and 8 velitess; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - RomanRepublic
            2 biremes and 2 triremes moved from SZ 28 to SZ 25
            3 legionaires and 4 velitess moved from Arretium to Genua
            1 ballista, 2 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Ariminum to Genua
            2 cavalrys moved from Roma to Genua
            1 velites moved from Tarentum to SZ 44
            1 bireme and 1 velites moved from SZ 44 to SZ 50
            1 velites moved from SZ 50 to Delphi
            2 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Salapia to Ariminum
            1 velites moved from Croton to Tarentum
            2 legionaires moved from Tarentum to Salapia
            1 legionaire moved from Croton to Tarentum
            1 legionaire and 2 velitess moved from Croton to Capua
            1 cavalry moved from Capua to Arretium
            3 legionaires moved from Capua to Salapia
            2 velitess moved from Roma to Capua
            1 ballista, 4 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Roma to Arretium

Combat - RomanRepublic
            Battle in Genua
                RomanRepublic attack with 1 ballista, 2 cavalrys, 5 legionaires and 7 velitess
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                RomanRepublic win, taking Genua from Neutral with 1 ballista, 2 cavalrys, 5 legionaires and 5 velitess remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 2 velitess

Non Combat Move - RomanRepublic

Place Units - RomanRepublic
            1 city placed in Capua
            8 velitess placed in Roma

Turn Complete - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic collect 47 PUs; end with 51 PUs total

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates buy 1 archer, 1 cavalry, 1 city, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - GreekCityStates
            2 cavalrys, 5 hoplites and 4 slingerss moved from Syracuse to Messana
            1 hoplite and 1 slingers moved from Rhodos to SZ 67
            3 biremes, 1 hoplite, 1 slingers and 2 triremes moved from SZ 67 to SZ 68
            1 cavalry moved from Athens to SZ 68
            1 cavalry, 1 hoplite and 1 slingers moved from SZ 68 to Sardis
            2 archers, 3 hoplites and 4 slingerss moved from Pergamum to Sardis
            6 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Sparta to Corinth
            2 archers, 5 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Athens to Corinth
            1 archer, 2 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Delphi to Athens

Combat - GreekCityStates
            Battle in Corinth
                GreekCityStates attack with 2 archers, 11 hoplites and 6 slingerss
                Macedonia defend with 2 cavalrys, 5 hoplites, 4 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                8 hoplites owned by the GreekCityStates retreated to Athens
                Macedonia win with 1 hoplite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Macedonia: 2 cavalrys, 4 hoplites, 4 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 2 archers, 3 hoplites and 6 slingerss
            Battle in Sardis
                GreekCityStates attack with 2 archers, 1 cavalry, 4 hoplites and 5 slingerss
                Seleucid defend with 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss
                GreekCityStates win, taking Sardis from Seleucid with 2 archers, 1 cavalry, 4 hoplites and 1 slingers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 4 slingerss
                Casualties for Seleucid: 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss

Non Combat Move - GreekCityStates

Place Units - GreekCityStates
            1 city placed in Athens
            1 archer, 1 cavalry, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss placed in Sparta

Turn Complete - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Macedonia
            Macedonia buy 3 biremes, 1 cavalry and 2 peltastss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Macedonia
            1 peltasts moved from Dodona to Delphi
            1 swordman moved from Larissa to Delphi
            2 hoplites and 3 peltastss moved from Dodona to Larissa
            1 hoplite moved from Pella to Dodona
            1 cavalry moved from Pella to Odessus
            4 peltastss moved from Philippopolis to Odessus
            1 cavalry moved from Philippopolis to Odessus
            2 cavalrys moved from Thessalonica to Odessus
            2 hoplites moved from Philippopolis to Thessalonica
            1 peltasts moved from Thessalonica to SZ 70
            1 peltasts moved from SZ 70 to Pergamum
                  Macedonia take Pergamum from GreekCityStates
            2 biremes moved from SZ 70 to SZ 69
            3 hoplites, 3 peltastss and 2 swordmen moved from Thessalonica to Larissa
            1 cavalry moved from Larissa to Odessus
            3 peltastss moved from Pella to Dodona

Combat - Macedonia
            Battle in Odessus
                Macedonia attack with 5 cavalrys and 4 peltastss
                Neutral defend with 1 axeman and 3 swordmen
                    Macedonia roll dice for 5 cavalrys and 4 peltastss in Odessus, round 1 :  3/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 axeman and 3 swordmen in Odessus, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 axeman owned by the Neutral , 2 swordmen owned by the Neutral and 1 peltasts owned by the Macedonia lost in Odessus
                    Macedonia roll dice for 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss in Odessus, round 2 :  2/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 swordman in Odessus, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 swordman owned by the Neutral lost in Odessus
                Macedonia win, taking Odessus from Neutral with 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Macedonia: 1 peltasts
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 axeman and 3 swordmen
            Battle in Delphi
                Macedonia attack with 1 peltasts and 1 swordman
                RomanRepublic defend with 1 velites
                    Macedonia roll dice for 1 peltasts and 1 swordman in Delphi, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    GreekCityStates roll dice for 1 velites in Delphi, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 velites owned by the RomanRepublic lost in Delphi
                Macedonia win, taking Delphi from GreekCityStates with 1 peltasts and 1 swordman remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 1 velites

Non Combat Move - Macedonia

Place Units - Macedonia
            3 biremes placed in SZ 69
            1 cavalry and 2 peltastss placed in Thessalonica

Turn Complete - Macedonia
            Macedonia collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs total

Territory Summary for Macedonia :

Thessalonica : 1 flag, 1 cavalry, 1 city, 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss
    Larissa : 1 flag, 7 hoplites, 11 peltastss and 2 swordmen
    Corinth : 1 flag, 1 hoplite
    Pergamum : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    SZ 70 : 1 flag, 1 trireme
    Delphi : 1 flag, 1 peltasts and 1 swordman
    SZ 69 : 1 flag, 5 biremes
    Odessus : 1 flag, 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss
    Dodona : 1 flag, 1 hoplite and 3 peltastss

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 47 / 47
    Seleucid : 48 / 55
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,167
        Median : 2,500
        Variance : 1,200
        Standard Deviation : 1,095
        Total rolls : 6

GreekCityStates Combat
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 6,000
        Median : 6,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Macedonia Combat
            2 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 2,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 4,500
        Standard Deviation : 2,121
        Total rolls : 3

Neutral Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,500
        Median : 3,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 2

[Ajmdemen]

I think it was well worth it to try the 42% on Athens. I didn’t like that dice in Corinth at all…

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Egypt
            Egypt buy 9 axemen and 1 city; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Egypt
            3 axemen moved from Alexandria to SZ 57
            3 axemen and 3 biremes moved from SZ 57 to SZ 63
            2 archers and 1 spearman moved from Alexandria to SZ 57
            1 archer and 2 spearmen moved from Memphis to SZ 58
            1 archer, 2 spearmen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 58 to SZ 59
            1 archer and 2 spearmen moved from SZ 59 to Jerusalem
            2 archers, 1 spearman and 1 trireme moved from SZ 57 to SZ 58
            2 archers and 1 spearman moved from SZ 58 to Pharan
            2 axemen, 1 chariot and 3 spearmen moved from Memphis to Pharan
            3 archers, 4 axemen and 2 spearmen moved from Hermopolis to Memphis
            2 chariots and 3 spearmen moved from Alexandria to Memphis
            2 chariots moved from Memphis to Pharan
            1 chariot moved from Pharan to Jerusalem
            3 axemen, 2 chariots and 4 spearmen moved from Sidon to Damascus
            2 axemen, 1 chariot and 5 spearmen moved from Jerusalem to Damascus

Combat - Egypt
            Battle in Damascus
                Egypt attack with 5 axemen, 3 chariots and 9 spearmen
                Seleucid defend with 2 cavalrys, 2 hoplites, 1 legionaire and 3 peltastss
                8 spearmen owned by the Egypt , 3 axemen owned by the Egypt and 3 chariots owned by the Egypt retreated to Jerusalem
                Seleucid win with 1 hoplite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 axemen and 1 spearman
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 cavalrys, 1 hoplite, 1 legionaire and 3 peltastss

Non Combat Move - Egypt
            1 spearman moved from Sidon to Jerusalem

Place Units - Egypt
            1 city placed in Jerusalem
            9 axemen placed in Alexandria

Turn Complete - Egypt
            Egypt collect 47 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Seleucid
            Seleucid buy 10 cavalrys and 1 city; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Seleucid
            1 hoplite moved from Damascus to Palmyra
            5 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss moved from Seleucia to Palmyra
            1 hoplite, 1 legionaire and 2 peltastss moved from Emesa to Damascus
            2 cataphracts and 2 cavalrys moved from Seleucia to Emesa
            1 cataphract and 1 cavalry moved from Hatra to Emesa
            1 peltasts moved from Hatra to Seleucia
            3 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 3 peltastss moved from Edessa to Emesa
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from Tarsus to Attalia
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from Antioch to SZ 61
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from SZ 61 to Salamis
            1 cataphract moved from Antioch to Tarsus
            1 cavalry moved from Edessa to Tarsus
            2 cavalrys moved from Antioch to Tarsus
            2 legionaires moved from Antioch to Sidon
            2 hoplites and 4 peltastss moved from Antioch to Damascus

Combat - Seleucid
            Battle in Palmyra
                Seleucid attack with 6 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 4 spearmen
                    Seleucid roll dice for 6 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss in Palmyra, round 1 :  4/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 3 cavalrys and 4 spearmen in Palmyra, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Neutral , 3 cavalrys owned by the Neutral and 2 peltastss owned by the Seleucid lost in Palmyra
                6 hoplites owned by the Seleucid , 3 peltastss owned by the Seleucid and 2 legionaires owned by the Seleucid retreated to Damascus
                Neutral win with 3 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 peltastss
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 1 spearman
            Battle in Salamis
                Seleucid attack with 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss
                Egypt defend with 2 spearmen
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss in Salamis, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 2 spearmen in Salamis, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt and 1 peltasts owned by the Seleucid lost in Salamis
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts in Salamis, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 1 spearman in Salamis, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt lost in Salamis
                Seleucid win, taking Salamis from Egypt with 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 spearmen
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 peltasts
            Battle in Sidon
                Seleucid attack with 2 legionaires
                Egypt defend with 1 spearman
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 legionaires in Sidon, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 1 spearman in Sidon, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt and 1 legionaire owned by the Seleucid lost in Sidon
                Seleucid win, taking Sidon from Egypt with 1 legionaire remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Egypt: 1 spearman
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 legionaire

Non Combat Move - Seleucid

Place Units - Seleucid
            10 cavalrys placed in Antioch
            1 city placed in Tarsus

Turn Complete - Seleucid
            Seleucid collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total

Territory Summary for Seleucid :

Damascus : 1 flag, 9 hoplites, 3 legionaires and 9 peltastss
    Salamis : 1 flag, 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts
    Antioch : 1 flag, 10 cavalrys and 1 city
    SZ 61 : 1 flag, 1 bireme and 1 trireme
    Tarsus : 1 flag, 1 cataphract, 3 cavalrys and 1 city
    Hatra : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Seleucia : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Sidon : 1 flag, 1 legionaire
    Emesa : 1 flag, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys, 3 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 3 peltastss
    Attalia : 1 flag, 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 63 / 63
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,143
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,167
        Standard Deviation : 1,080
        Total rolls : 7

Egypt Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 3

Seleucid Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,667
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 3

Neutral Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1,000
        Median : 1,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

[pug6000]

@Ajmdemen:

I think it was well worth it to try the 42% on Athens. I didn’t like that dice in Corinth at all…

You are right about it. I just forgot to move to include the hoplite from Corinth into my calculations. Otherwise I would have done it. even if I wouldnt take it, I would get it the turn after.

[Ajmdemen]

I could probably manage to barely hold it next rounds if it held.

But if you won, Greece would be in pretty hopeless position.

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Parthia
            Parthia buy 7 cavalrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Parthia
            3 archers and 7 spearmen moved from Ctesiphon to Seleucia
            2 archers, 1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 4 spearmen moved from Persepolis to Babylon
            1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 1 horsearcher moved from Ctesiphon to Babylon
            1 horsearcher moved from Ecbatana to Babylon
            2 horsearchers moved from Cyropolis to Babylon
            1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 1 horsearcher moved from Susa to Babylon
            1 archer and 3 spearmen moved from Cyropolis to Ctesiphon
            1 archer and 4 spearmen moved from Ecbatana to Ctesiphon
            2 spearmen moved from Susa to Babylon
            3 archers and 5 spearmen moved from Susa to Seleucia

Combat - Parthia
            Battle in Seleucia
                Parthia attack with 6 archers and 12 spearmen
                Seleucid defend with 1 peltasts
                Parthia win, taking Seleucia from Seleucid with 6 archers and 12 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 peltasts
            Battle in Babylon
                Parthia attack with 2 archers, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys, 5 horsearchers and 6 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 3 archers and 7 spearmen
                Parthia win, taking Babylon from Neutral with 2 archers, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys and 5 horsearchers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 archers and 7 spearmen
                Casualties for Parthia: 6 spearmen

Non Combat Move - Parthia

Place Units - Parthia
            7 cavalrys placed in Persepolis

Turn Complete - Parthia
            Parthia collect 48 PUs; end with 50 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Numidia
            Numidia buy 4 cavalrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Numidia
            2 cavalrys moved from Leptis Magna to Cyrene
            1 cavalry and 1 spearman moved from Berenice to Cyrene
            1 cavalry and 2 spearmen moved from Paliurus to Cyrene
            3 spearmen moved from Leptis Magna to Berenice
            1 archer and 1 spearman moved from Zama to Capsa
            1 archer and 3 spearmen moved from Hippo Regius to Zama
            2 cavalrys moved from Hippo Regius to Auzia
            2 cavalrys and 5 spearmen moved from Cirta to Auzia
            2 cavalrys and 1 spearman moved from Igilgili to Auzia
            2 cavalrys moved from Zama to Auzia
            1 archer and 3 swordmen moved from Cirta to Theveste
            1 cavalry moved from Theveste to Auzia
            1 spearman moved from Theveste to Capsa

Combat - Numidia
            Battle in Auzia
                Numidia attack with 9 cavalrys and 6 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 1 spearman
                Numidia win, taking Auzia from Neutral with 9 cavalrys and 5 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 spearman
                Casualties for Numidia: 1 spearman
            Battle in Cyrene
                Numidia attack with 4 cavalrys and 3 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 1 archer and 3 spearmen
                Numidia win, taking Cyrene from Neutral with 4 cavalrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 archer and 3 spearmen
                Casualties for Numidia: 3 spearmen
            2 biremes moved from SZ 29 to SZ 30

Place Units - Numidia
            4 cavalrys placed in Leptis Magna

Turn Complete - Numidia
            Numidia collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs total

Territory Summary for Numidia :

Siwa : 1 flag, 2 archers and 4 spearmen
    Theveste : 1 flag, 1 archer and 3 swordmen
    Berenice : 1 flag, 3 spearmen
    Cyrene : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys
    Auzia : 1 flag, 9 cavalrys and 5 spearmen
    SZ 30 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    Capsa : 1 flag, 1 archer and 5 spearmen
    Zama : 1 flag, 1 archer and 3 spearmen
    Leptis Magna : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys and 1 city

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 53 / 63
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Carthage
            Carthage buy 2 cavalrys, 6 swordmen and 2 triremes; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Carthage
            1 spearman moved from Lilybaeum to Syracuse
                  Carthage take Syracuse from GreekCityStates
            3 biremes and 2 triremes moved from SZ 33 to SZ 34
            2 spearmen and 1 warelephant moved from Thapsus to Thenae
            1 cavalry moved from Thapsus to Thenae
            2 cavalrys moved from Thapsus to SZ 36
            2 biremes and 2 cavalrys moved from SZ 36 to SZ 33
            1 cavalry moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 cavalry moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 spearman and 2 swordmen moved from Carthago Nova to Valentia
            1 spearman moved from Acci to SZ 15
            2 biremes and 1 spearman moved from SZ 15 to SZ 16
            1 spearman moved from SZ 16 to Valentia
            6 spearmen and 5 swordmen moved from Castulo to Valentia
            2 cavalrys moved from Salmantica to Valentia
            1 swordman moved from Salmantica to Castulo

Combat - Carthage
            Battle in Valentia
                Carthage attack with 2 cavalrys, 8 spearmen and 7 swordmen
                Neutral defend with 2 archers, 3 axemen and 1 swordman
                Carthage win, taking Valentia from Neutral with 2 cavalrys, 6 spearmen and 7 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 archers, 3 axemen and 1 swordman
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen
            Battle in Thenae
                Carthage attack with 1 cavalry, 2 spearmen and 1 warelephant
                Neutral defend with 1 archer and 2 spearmen
                Units damaged: 1 warelephant owned by the Carthage
                Carthage win, taking Thenae from Neutral with 1 cavalry and 1 warelephant remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 archer and 2 spearmen
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen

Non Combat Move - Carthage

Place Units - Carthage
            1 trireme placed in SZ 32
            1 trireme placed in SZ 34
            4 swordmen placed in Lilybaeum
            2 cavalrys and 2 swordmen placed in Carthago Nova

Turn Complete - Carthage
            Carthage collect 68 PUs; end with 69 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

Territory Summary for Carthage :

Thenae : 1 flag, 1 cavalry and 1 warelephant
    Salmantica : 1 flag
    Caralis : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Aleria : 1 flag, 2 spearmen
    Castulo : 1 flag, 1 swordman
    Carthago Nova : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 1 city and 2 swordmen
    Carthago : 1 flag, 1 city and 3 spearmen
    Syracuse : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    SZ 33 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    SZ 32 : 1 flag, 1 trireme
    SZ 34 : 1 flag, 3 biremes and 3 triremes
    Palma : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Lilybaeum : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 1 city, 1 hoplite, 15 spearmen, 4 swordmen and 1 warelephant
    Valentia : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 6 spearmen and 7 swordmen
    SZ 16 : 1 flag, 2 biremes

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 68 / 69
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 25 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 53 / 63
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22

[pug6000]

@Ajmdemen:

But if you won, Greece would be in pretty hopeless position.

Ok, I will mark today as the day I nearly beat Ajmdemen  :-D

But it wouldnt have been fair. If you can destroy a nation in round one with the natural move, the map has a big flaw. It would have only been the exploit of a design bug. But you shouldnt count on me not recognising the next chance. Sometimes even I notice chances :-)

[Veqryn]

out of curiosity ajmdemen, how in hell was that not balanced?
especially because this game is default to dice, not LL, which means most people can not do that little retreat move into athens like you just did (ie: they might get screwed by good OR bad dice, and stuck in corinth)

[Ajmdemen]

I should have put the Roman unit in Athens, but still it is the first time Ive seen such results (its about 5% to happen, so not so low though).

I think the map is balanced around LL. On the other hand playing seleucs should be harder with setting dice instead of LL, which could compensate somewhat for more problematic greek opening

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic buy 16 velitess; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - RomanRepublic
            1 ballista, 2 cavalrys, 5 legionaires and 5 velitess moved from Genua to Verona
            2 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Ariminum to Verona
            1 cavalry moved from Arretium to Verona
            1 bireme moved from SZ 50 to SZ 45
            1 ballista moved from Arretium to Ariminum
            5 legionaires moved from Salapia to Ariminum
            3 legionaires moved from Arretium to SZ 25
            3 legionaires and 1 trireme moved from SZ 25 to SZ 21
            3 legionaires moved from SZ 21 to Aleria
            1 legionaire moved from Arretium to SZ 25
            3 velitess moved from Arretium to SZ 25
            1 velites moved from Roma to SZ 25
            2 biremes, 1 legionaire, 1 trireme and 4 velitess moved from SZ 25 to SZ 24
            1 legionaire and 4 velitess moved from SZ 24 to Caralis

Combat - RomanRepublic
            Battle in Aleria
                RomanRepublic attack with 3 legionaires
                Carthage defend with 2 spearmen
                RomanRepublic win, taking Aleria from Carthage with 1 legionaire remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 2 legionaires
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen
            Battle in Caralis
                RomanRepublic attack with 1 legionaire and 4 velitess
                Carthage defend with 1 spearman
                RomanRepublic win, taking Caralis from Carthage with 1 legionaire and 4 velitess remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Carthage: 1 spearman
            Battle in Verona
                RomanRepublic attack with 1 ballista, 3 cavalrys, 7 legionaires and 8 velitess
                Neutral defend with 2 axemen and 3 swordmen
                RomanRepublic win, taking Verona from Neutral with 1 ballista, 3 cavalrys, 7 legionaires and 6 velitess remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 axemen and 3 swordmen
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 2 velitess

Non Combat Move - RomanRepublic
            2 velitess moved from Roma to Capua

Place Units - RomanRepublic
            7 velitess placed in Capua
            9 velitess placed in Roma

Turn Complete - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic collect 57 PUs; end with 60 PUs total

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates buy 1 city and 13 slingerss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - GreekCityStates
            1 archer, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss moved from Sparta to Corinth
            1 cavalry and 2 slingerss moved from Messana to Syracuse
            1 cavalry and 1 slingers moved from Sardis to Pergamum
            1 hoplite and 2 slingerss moved from Athens to Delphi
            1 slingers moved from Athens to Delphi
            2 archers and 4 hoplites moved from Sardis to SZ 68
            2 archers and 4 hoplites moved from SZ 68 to Athens

Combat - GreekCityStates
            Battle in Pergamum
                GreekCityStates attack with 1 cavalry and 1 slingers
                Macedonia defend with 1 peltasts
                GreekCityStates win, taking Pergamum from Macedonia with 1 cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Macedonia: 1 peltasts
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 1 slingers
            Battle in Corinth
                GreekCityStates attack with 1 archer, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss
                Macedonia defend with 1 hoplite
                GreekCityStates win, taking Corinth from Macedonia with 1 archer, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Macedonia: 1 hoplite
            Battle in Syracuse
                GreekCityStates attack with 1 cavalry and 2 slingerss
                Carthage defend with 1 spearman
                GreekCityStates win, taking Syracuse from Carthage with 1 cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 2 slingerss
                Casualties for Carthage: 1 spearman
            Battle in Delphi
                GreekCityStates attack with 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss
                Macedonia defend with 1 peltasts and 1 swordman
                GreekCityStates win, taking Delphi from Macedonia with 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Macedonia: 1 peltasts and 1 swordman

Non Combat Move - GreekCityStates
            1 cavalry moved from Sparta to Athens

Place Units - GreekCityStates
            1 city placed in Rhodos
            7 slingerss placed in Athens
            6 slingerss placed in Sparta

Turn Complete - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Macedonia
            Macedonia buy 3 cavalrys, 1 city and 3 swordmen; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - Macedonia
            2 hoplites and 1 peltasts moved from Thessalonica to SZ 70
            2 hoplites and 1 peltasts moved from SZ 70 to Pergamum
            1 peltasts moved from Thessalonica to SZ 69
            1 peltasts moved from SZ 69 to Sardis
                  Seleucid take Sardis from GreekCityStates
            3 peltastss moved from Odessus to Thessalonica
            1 cavalry moved from Thessalonica to Larissa
            5 cavalrys moved from Odessus to Larissa
            2 peltastss moved from Dodona to Delphi
            2 swordmen moved from Larissa to Delphi
            1 cavalry moved from Larissa to Delphi
            1 peltasts moved from Dodona to Larissa
            1 hoplite moved from Dodona to Larissa
            1 peltasts moved from Larissa to Dodona

Combat - Macedonia
            Battle in Pergamum
                Macedonia attack with 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts
                GreekCityStates defend with 1 cavalry
                Macedonia win, taking Pergamum from GreekCityStates with 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 1 cavalry
            Battle in Delphi
                Macedonia attack with 1 cavalry, 2 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                GreekCityStates defend with 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss
                Macedonia win, taking Delphi from GreekCityStates with 1 cavalry and 2 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss
                Casualties for Macedonia: 2 peltastss

Non Combat Move - Macedonia

Place Units - Macedonia
            1 city placed in Larissa
            3 cavalrys and 3 swordmen placed in Thessalonica

Turn Complete - Macedonia
            Macedonia collect 36 PUs; end with 40 PUs total

Territory Summary for Macedonia :

Thessalonica : 1 flag, 3 cavalrys, 1 city, 3 peltastss and 3 swordmen
    Larissa : 1 flag, 5 cavalrys, 1 city, 8 hoplites and 11 peltastss
    Pergamum : 1 flag, 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts
    SZ 70 : 1 flag, 1 trireme
    Delphi : 1 flag, 1 cavalry and 2 swordmen
    SZ 69 : 1 flag, 5 biremes
    Sardis : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Odessus : 1 flag
    Dodona : 1 flag, 1 peltasts

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 55 / 69
    RomanRepublic : 57 / 60
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 48
    Macedonia : 36 / 40
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 60 / 63
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Egypt
            Egypt buy 17 axemen; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Egypt
            1 archer and 2 axemen moved from Pharan to SZ 59
            1 archer, 2 axemen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 59 to SZ 60
            3 axemen and 3 biremes moved from SZ 63 to SZ 60
            1 archer and 5 axemen moved from SZ 60 to Salamis
            2 axemen and 1 spearman moved from Jerusalem to Sidon

Combat - Egypt
            Battle in Salamis
                Egypt attack with 1 archer and 5 axemen
                Seleucid defend with 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts
                Egypt win, taking Salamis from Seleucid with 1 archer and 3 axemen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 axemen
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts
            Battle in Sidon
                Egypt attack with 2 axemen and 1 spearman
                Seleucid defend with 1 legionaire
                Seleucid win with 1 legionaire remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 axemen and 1 spearman

Non Combat Move - Egypt
            1 archer, 2 chariots and 4 spearmen moved from Pharan to Jerusalem
            3 archers moved from Memphis to SZ 58
            3 archers and 1 trireme moved from SZ 58 to SZ 59
            3 archers moved from SZ 59 to Jerusalem
            4 axemen and 5 spearmen moved from Memphis to Pharan
            8 axemen moved from Alexandria to Memphis

Place Units - Egypt
            8 axemen placed in Jerusalem
            9 axemen placed in Alexandria

Turn Complete - Egypt
            Egypt collect 38 PUs; end with 39 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Seleucid
            Seleucid buy 2 biremes, 3 cavalrys, 1 city and 11 peltastss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Seleucid
            4 hoplites and 3 peltastss moved from Attalia to Sardis
            1 cavalry moved from Tarsus to Sardis
            1 cataphract and 2 cavalrys moved from Tarsus to Pessinus
            10 cavalrys moved from Antioch to Damascus
            3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys, 3 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 3 peltastss moved from Emesa to Damascus
            1 peltasts moved from Damascus to Sidon
            1 legionaire moved from Sidon to Damascus

Combat - Seleucid
            Battle in Pessinus
                Seleucid attack with 1 cataphract and 2 cavalrys
                Neutral defend with 2 spearmen
                Seleucid win, taking Pessinus from Neutral with 1 cataphract remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 cavalrys
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 spearmen

Non Combat Move - Seleucid

Place Units - Seleucid
            3 cavalrys and 8 peltastss placed in Antioch
            3 peltastss placed in Tarsus
            2 biremes placed in SZ 61
            1 city placed in Damascus

Turn Complete - Seleucid
            Seleucid collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs total

Territory Summary for Seleucid :

Pessinus : 1 flag, 1 cataphract
    Damascus : 1 flag, 3 cataphracts, 13 cavalrys, 1 city, 12 hoplites, 6 legionaires and 11 peltastss
    Antioch : 1 flag, 3 cavalrys, 1 city and 8 peltastss
    SZ 61 : 1 flag, 3 biremes and 1 trireme
    Sardis : 1 flag, 1 cavalry, 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss
    Tarsus : 1 flag, 1 city and 3 peltastss
    Hatra : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Sidon : 1 flag, 1 peltasts

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 55 / 69
    RomanRepublic : 57 / 60
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 48
    Macedonia : 36 / 40
    Egypt : 38 / 39
    Seleucid : 57 / 57
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22