BotA - r3 - 270BC - Ajmdemen .vs. Pug6000

[Ajmdemen]

Ha, Napoleonic Empires was a new experience for me, so it would have been tough :) with 270 bc to be honest, I have quite significant experience, I used to play it a lot once.

If you have any side preference, you can choose. BTW - Im on the lobby for another hour or 2 - if you have time now, we could start it off.

[pug6000]

@Ajmdemen:

Ha, Napoleonic Empires was a new experience for me, so it would have been tough :) with 270 bc to be honest, I have quite significant experience, I used to play it a lot once.

The problem is, that you are experienced in all tournament maps except Napoleonic Empires :-)

In my very first game I played Roman Alliance, so it’s now time to switch sides and play Carthage.

Any other wishes? I can use your email from the NWO tournament.

And I think I should play pbem to have at least a tiny chance to tease you  :-D

[Ajmdemen]

No problem with that at all. I await your first turn then.

[pug6000]

Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.6.1.2, time: 10:09:31

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Carthage
            Carthage buy 2 biremes, 2 citys and 3 spearmen; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Carthage
            1 spearman moved from Melita to SZ 36
            1 hoplite moved from Carthago to SZ 36
            2 spearmen moved from Thapsus to SZ 36
            1 bireme, 1 hoplite, 3 spearmen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 36 to SZ 33
            1 hoplite and 3 spearmen moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            2 spearmen moved from Caralis to SZ 32
            3 spearmen moved from Carthago to SZ 32
            2 biremes, 5 spearmen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 32 to SZ 33
            5 spearmen moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from Gades to SZ 14
            2 biremes, 1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from SZ 14 to SZ 15
            3 spearmen and 2 swordmen moved from Carthago Nova to Castulo
            4 spearmen and 3 swordmen moved from Corduba to Castulo
            1 swordman moved from Acci to Carthago Nova
            1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from SZ 15 to Carthago Nova
            1 spearman moved from Gades to Acci
            2 cavalrys moved from Corduba to Salmantica
            2 spearmen and 1 swordman moved from Hispatis to Salmantica
            1 spearman moved from Carthago to Thapsus
            1 warelephant moved from Carthago to Thapsus
            3 cavalrys moved from Carthago to Thapsus

Combat - Carthage
            Battle in Salmantica
                Carthage attack with 2 cavalrys, 2 spearmen and 1 swordman
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 1 swordman
                    Carthage roll dice for 2 cavalrys, 2 spearmen and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 3 cavalrys and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    2 cavalrys owned by the Neutral and 1 spearman owned by the Carthage lost in Salmantica
                    Carthage roll dice for 2 cavalrys, 1 spearman and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 cavalry and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 cavalry owned by the Neutral and 1 spearman owned by the Carthage lost in Salmantica
                    Carthage roll dice for 2 cavalrys and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 3 :  1/0 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 swordman owned by the Neutral lost in Salmantica
                Carthage win, taking Salmantica from Neutral with 2 cavalrys and 1 swordman remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 1 swordman
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen
            Battle in Castulo
                Carthage attack with 7 spearmen and 5 swordmen
                Neutral defend with 2 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                    Carthage roll dice for 7 spearmen and 5 swordmen in Castulo, round 1 :  3/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 2 cavalrys and 3 swordmen in Castulo, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 swordman owned by the Neutral , 2 cavalrys owned by the Neutral and 1 spearman owned by the Carthage lost in Castulo
                    Carthage roll dice for 6 spearmen and 5 swordmen in Castulo, round 2 :  3/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 2 swordmen in Castulo, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    2 swordmen owned by the Neutral lost in Castulo
                Carthage win, taking Castulo from Neutral with 6 spearmen and 5 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                Casualties for Carthage: 1 spearman

Non Combat Move - Carthage

Place Units - Carthage
            1 city placed in Lilybaeum
            1 city placed in Carthago Nova
            2 biremes placed in SZ 36
            3 spearmen placed in Carthago

Turn Complete - Carthage
            Carthage collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs total

Territory Summary for Carthage :

Salmantica : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys and 1 swordman
    Caralis : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Thapsus : 1 flag, 3 cavalrys, 2 spearmen and 1 warelephant
    Aleria : 1 flag, 2 spearmen
    Castulo : 1 flag, 6 spearmen and 5 swordmen
    Carthago Nova : 1 flag, 1 city, 1 spearman and 2 swordmen
    Carthago : 1 flag, 1 city and 3 spearmen
    SZ 36 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    SZ 33 : 1 flag, 3 biremes and 2 triremes
    Acci : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Palma : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Lilybaeum : 1 flag, 1 city, 1 hoplite, 16 spearmen and 1 warelephant
    SZ 15 : 1 flag, 2 biremes

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 43 / 43
    GreekCityStates : 34 / 34
    Macedonia : 29 / 29
    Egypt : 47 / 47
    Seleucid : 55 / 55
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3,556
        Median : 4,000
        Variance : 1,375
        Standard Deviation : 1,173
        Total rolls : 9

Neutral Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 4,000
        Median : 5,000
        Variance : 2,750
        Standard Deviation : 1,658
        Total rolls : 5

Carthage Combat
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,000
        Median : 2,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 4

[pug6000]

And of course you are welcome to point out my mistakes as soon as telling me doesnt hurt your own plans anymore.

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic buy 1 city and 8 velitess; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - RomanRepublic
            2 biremes and 2 triremes moved from SZ 28 to SZ 25
            3 legionaires and 4 velitess moved from Arretium to Genua
            1 ballista, 2 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Ariminum to Genua
            2 cavalrys moved from Roma to Genua
            1 velites moved from Tarentum to SZ 44
            1 bireme and 1 velites moved from SZ 44 to SZ 50
            1 velites moved from SZ 50 to Delphi
            2 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Salapia to Ariminum
            1 velites moved from Croton to Tarentum
            2 legionaires moved from Tarentum to Salapia
            1 legionaire moved from Croton to Tarentum
            1 legionaire and 2 velitess moved from Croton to Capua
            1 cavalry moved from Capua to Arretium
            3 legionaires moved from Capua to Salapia
            2 velitess moved from Roma to Capua
            1 ballista, 4 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Roma to Arretium

Combat - RomanRepublic
            Battle in Genua
                RomanRepublic attack with 1 ballista, 2 cavalrys, 5 legionaires and 7 velitess
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                RomanRepublic win, taking Genua from Neutral with 1 ballista, 2 cavalrys, 5 legionaires and 5 velitess remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 2 velitess

Non Combat Move - RomanRepublic

Place Units - RomanRepublic
            1 city placed in Capua
            8 velitess placed in Roma

Turn Complete - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic collect 47 PUs; end with 51 PUs total

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates buy 1 archer, 1 cavalry, 1 city, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - GreekCityStates
            2 cavalrys, 5 hoplites and 4 slingerss moved from Syracuse to Messana
            1 hoplite and 1 slingers moved from Rhodos to SZ 67
            3 biremes, 1 hoplite, 1 slingers and 2 triremes moved from SZ 67 to SZ 68
            1 cavalry moved from Athens to SZ 68
            1 cavalry, 1 hoplite and 1 slingers moved from SZ 68 to Sardis
            2 archers, 3 hoplites and 4 slingerss moved from Pergamum to Sardis
            6 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Sparta to Corinth
            2 archers, 5 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Athens to Corinth
            1 archer, 2 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Delphi to Athens

Combat - GreekCityStates
            Battle in Corinth
                GreekCityStates attack with 2 archers, 11 hoplites and 6 slingerss
                Macedonia defend with 2 cavalrys, 5 hoplites, 4 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                8 hoplites owned by the GreekCityStates retreated to Athens
                Macedonia win with 1 hoplite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Macedonia: 2 cavalrys, 4 hoplites, 4 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 2 archers, 3 hoplites and 6 slingerss
            Battle in Sardis
                GreekCityStates attack with 2 archers, 1 cavalry, 4 hoplites and 5 slingerss
                Seleucid defend with 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss
                GreekCityStates win, taking Sardis from Seleucid with 2 archers, 1 cavalry, 4 hoplites and 1 slingers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 4 slingerss
                Casualties for Seleucid: 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss

Non Combat Move - GreekCityStates

Place Units - GreekCityStates
            1 city placed in Athens
            1 archer, 1 cavalry, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss placed in Sparta

Turn Complete - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Macedonia
            Macedonia buy 3 biremes, 1 cavalry and 2 peltastss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Macedonia
            1 peltasts moved from Dodona to Delphi
            1 swordman moved from Larissa to Delphi
            2 hoplites and 3 peltastss moved from Dodona to Larissa
            1 hoplite moved from Pella to Dodona
            1 cavalry moved from Pella to Odessus
            4 peltastss moved from Philippopolis to Odessus
            1 cavalry moved from Philippopolis to Odessus
            2 cavalrys moved from Thessalonica to Odessus
            2 hoplites moved from Philippopolis to Thessalonica
            1 peltasts moved from Thessalonica to SZ 70
            1 peltasts moved from SZ 70 to Pergamum
                  Macedonia take Pergamum from GreekCityStates
            2 biremes moved from SZ 70 to SZ 69
            3 hoplites, 3 peltastss and 2 swordmen moved from Thessalonica to Larissa
            1 cavalry moved from Larissa to Odessus
            3 peltastss moved from Pella to Dodona

Combat - Macedonia
            Battle in Odessus
                Macedonia attack with 5 cavalrys and 4 peltastss
                Neutral defend with 1 axeman and 3 swordmen
                    Macedonia roll dice for 5 cavalrys and 4 peltastss in Odessus, round 1 :  3/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 axeman and 3 swordmen in Odessus, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 axeman owned by the Neutral , 2 swordmen owned by the Neutral and 1 peltasts owned by the Macedonia lost in Odessus
                    Macedonia roll dice for 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss in Odessus, round 2 :  2/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 swordman in Odessus, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 swordman owned by the Neutral lost in Odessus
                Macedonia win, taking Odessus from Neutral with 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Macedonia: 1 peltasts
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 axeman and 3 swordmen
            Battle in Delphi
                Macedonia attack with 1 peltasts and 1 swordman
                RomanRepublic defend with 1 velites
                    Macedonia roll dice for 1 peltasts and 1 swordman in Delphi, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    GreekCityStates roll dice for 1 velites in Delphi, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 velites owned by the RomanRepublic lost in Delphi
                Macedonia win, taking Delphi from GreekCityStates with 1 peltasts and 1 swordman remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 1 velites

Non Combat Move - Macedonia

Place Units - Macedonia
            3 biremes placed in SZ 69
            1 cavalry and 2 peltastss placed in Thessalonica

Turn Complete - Macedonia
            Macedonia collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs total

Territory Summary for Macedonia :

Thessalonica : 1 flag, 1 cavalry, 1 city, 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss
    Larissa : 1 flag, 7 hoplites, 11 peltastss and 2 swordmen
    Corinth : 1 flag, 1 hoplite
    Pergamum : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    SZ 70 : 1 flag, 1 trireme
    Delphi : 1 flag, 1 peltasts and 1 swordman
    SZ 69 : 1 flag, 5 biremes
    Odessus : 1 flag, 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss
    Dodona : 1 flag, 1 hoplite and 3 peltastss

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 47 / 47
    Seleucid : 48 / 55
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,167
        Median : 2,500
        Variance : 1,200
        Standard Deviation : 1,095
        Total rolls : 6

GreekCityStates Combat
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 6,000
        Median : 6,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Macedonia Combat
            2 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 2,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 4,500
        Standard Deviation : 2,121
        Total rolls : 3

Neutral Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,500
        Median : 3,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 2

[Ajmdemen]

I think it was well worth it to try the 42% on Athens. I didn’t like that dice in Corinth at all…

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Egypt
            Egypt buy 9 axemen and 1 city; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Egypt
            3 axemen moved from Alexandria to SZ 57
            3 axemen and 3 biremes moved from SZ 57 to SZ 63
            2 archers and 1 spearman moved from Alexandria to SZ 57
            1 archer and 2 spearmen moved from Memphis to SZ 58
            1 archer, 2 spearmen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 58 to SZ 59
            1 archer and 2 spearmen moved from SZ 59 to Jerusalem
            2 archers, 1 spearman and 1 trireme moved from SZ 57 to SZ 58
            2 archers and 1 spearman moved from SZ 58 to Pharan
            2 axemen, 1 chariot and 3 spearmen moved from Memphis to Pharan
            3 archers, 4 axemen and 2 spearmen moved from Hermopolis to Memphis
            2 chariots and 3 spearmen moved from Alexandria to Memphis
            2 chariots moved from Memphis to Pharan
            1 chariot moved from Pharan to Jerusalem
            3 axemen, 2 chariots and 4 spearmen moved from Sidon to Damascus
            2 axemen, 1 chariot and 5 spearmen moved from Jerusalem to Damascus

Combat - Egypt
            Battle in Damascus
                Egypt attack with 5 axemen, 3 chariots and 9 spearmen
                Seleucid defend with 2 cavalrys, 2 hoplites, 1 legionaire and 3 peltastss
                8 spearmen owned by the Egypt , 3 axemen owned by the Egypt and 3 chariots owned by the Egypt retreated to Jerusalem
                Seleucid win with 1 hoplite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 axemen and 1 spearman
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 cavalrys, 1 hoplite, 1 legionaire and 3 peltastss

Non Combat Move - Egypt
            1 spearman moved from Sidon to Jerusalem

Place Units - Egypt
            1 city placed in Jerusalem
            9 axemen placed in Alexandria

Turn Complete - Egypt
            Egypt collect 47 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Seleucid
            Seleucid buy 10 cavalrys and 1 city; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Seleucid
            1 hoplite moved from Damascus to Palmyra
            5 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss moved from Seleucia to Palmyra
            1 hoplite, 1 legionaire and 2 peltastss moved from Emesa to Damascus
            2 cataphracts and 2 cavalrys moved from Seleucia to Emesa
            1 cataphract and 1 cavalry moved from Hatra to Emesa
            1 peltasts moved from Hatra to Seleucia
            3 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 3 peltastss moved from Edessa to Emesa
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from Tarsus to Attalia
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from Antioch to SZ 61
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from SZ 61 to Salamis
            1 cataphract moved from Antioch to Tarsus
            1 cavalry moved from Edessa to Tarsus
            2 cavalrys moved from Antioch to Tarsus
            2 legionaires moved from Antioch to Sidon
            2 hoplites and 4 peltastss moved from Antioch to Damascus

Combat - Seleucid
            Battle in Palmyra
                Seleucid attack with 6 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 4 spearmen
                    Seleucid roll dice for 6 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss in Palmyra, round 1 :  4/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 3 cavalrys and 4 spearmen in Palmyra, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Neutral , 3 cavalrys owned by the Neutral and 2 peltastss owned by the Seleucid lost in Palmyra
                6 hoplites owned by the Seleucid , 3 peltastss owned by the Seleucid and 2 legionaires owned by the Seleucid retreated to Damascus
                Neutral win with 3 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 peltastss
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 1 spearman
            Battle in Salamis
                Seleucid attack with 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss
                Egypt defend with 2 spearmen
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss in Salamis, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 2 spearmen in Salamis, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt and 1 peltasts owned by the Seleucid lost in Salamis
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts in Salamis, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 1 spearman in Salamis, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt lost in Salamis
                Seleucid win, taking Salamis from Egypt with 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 spearmen
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 peltasts
            Battle in Sidon
                Seleucid attack with 2 legionaires
                Egypt defend with 1 spearman
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 legionaires in Sidon, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 1 spearman in Sidon, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt and 1 legionaire owned by the Seleucid lost in Sidon
                Seleucid win, taking Sidon from Egypt with 1 legionaire remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Egypt: 1 spearman
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 legionaire

Non Combat Move - Seleucid

Place Units - Seleucid
            10 cavalrys placed in Antioch
            1 city placed in Tarsus

Turn Complete - Seleucid
            Seleucid collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total

Territory Summary for Seleucid :

Damascus : 1 flag, 9 hoplites, 3 legionaires and 9 peltastss
    Salamis : 1 flag, 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts
    Antioch : 1 flag, 10 cavalrys and 1 city
    SZ 61 : 1 flag, 1 bireme and 1 trireme
    Tarsus : 1 flag, 1 cataphract, 3 cavalrys and 1 city
    Hatra : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Seleucia : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Sidon : 1 flag, 1 legionaire
    Emesa : 1 flag, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys, 3 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 3 peltastss
    Attalia : 1 flag, 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 63 / 63
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,143
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,167
        Standard Deviation : 1,080
        Total rolls : 7

Egypt Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 3

Seleucid Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,667
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 3

Neutral Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1,000
        Median : 1,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

[pug6000]

@Ajmdemen:

I think it was well worth it to try the 42% on Athens. I didn’t like that dice in Corinth at all…

You are right about it. I just forgot to move to include the hoplite from Corinth into my calculations. Otherwise I would have done it. even if I wouldnt take it, I would get it the turn after.

[Ajmdemen]

I could probably manage to barely hold it next rounds if it held.

But if you won, Greece would be in pretty hopeless position.

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Parthia
            Parthia buy 7 cavalrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Parthia
            3 archers and 7 spearmen moved from Ctesiphon to Seleucia
            2 archers, 1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 4 spearmen moved from Persepolis to Babylon
            1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 1 horsearcher moved from Ctesiphon to Babylon
            1 horsearcher moved from Ecbatana to Babylon
            2 horsearchers moved from Cyropolis to Babylon
            1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 1 horsearcher moved from Susa to Babylon
            1 archer and 3 spearmen moved from Cyropolis to Ctesiphon
            1 archer and 4 spearmen moved from Ecbatana to Ctesiphon
            2 spearmen moved from Susa to Babylon
            3 archers and 5 spearmen moved from Susa to Seleucia

Combat - Parthia
            Battle in Seleucia
                Parthia attack with 6 archers and 12 spearmen
                Seleucid defend with 1 peltasts
                Parthia win, taking Seleucia from Seleucid with 6 archers and 12 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 peltasts
            Battle in Babylon
                Parthia attack with 2 archers, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys, 5 horsearchers and 6 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 3 archers and 7 spearmen
                Parthia win, taking Babylon from Neutral with 2 archers, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys and 5 horsearchers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 archers and 7 spearmen
                Casualties for Parthia: 6 spearmen

Non Combat Move - Parthia

Place Units - Parthia
            7 cavalrys placed in Persepolis

Turn Complete - Parthia
            Parthia collect 48 PUs; end with 50 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Numidia
            Numidia buy 4 cavalrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Numidia
            2 cavalrys moved from Leptis Magna to Cyrene
            1 cavalry and 1 spearman moved from Berenice to Cyrene
            1 cavalry and 2 spearmen moved from Paliurus to Cyrene
            3 spearmen moved from Leptis Magna to Berenice
            1 archer and 1 spearman moved from Zama to Capsa
            1 archer and 3 spearmen moved from Hippo Regius to Zama
            2 cavalrys moved from Hippo Regius to Auzia
            2 cavalrys and 5 spearmen moved from Cirta to Auzia
            2 cavalrys and 1 spearman moved from Igilgili to Auzia
            2 cavalrys moved from Zama to Auzia
            1 archer and 3 swordmen moved from Cirta to Theveste
            1 cavalry moved from Theveste to Auzia
            1 spearman moved from Theveste to Capsa

Combat - Numidia
            Battle in Auzia
                Numidia attack with 9 cavalrys and 6 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 1 spearman
                Numidia win, taking Auzia from Neutral with 9 cavalrys and 5 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 spearman
                Casualties for Numidia: 1 spearman
            Battle in Cyrene
                Numidia attack with 4 cavalrys and 3 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 1 archer and 3 spearmen
                Numidia win, taking Cyrene from Neutral with 4 cavalrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 archer and 3 spearmen
                Casualties for Numidia: 3 spearmen
            2 biremes moved from SZ 29 to SZ 30

Place Units - Numidia
            4 cavalrys placed in Leptis Magna

Turn Complete - Numidia
            Numidia collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs total

Territory Summary for Numidia :

Siwa : 1 flag, 2 archers and 4 spearmen
    Theveste : 1 flag, 1 archer and 3 swordmen
    Berenice : 1 flag, 3 spearmen
    Cyrene : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys
    Auzia : 1 flag, 9 cavalrys and 5 spearmen
    SZ 30 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    Capsa : 1 flag, 1 archer and 5 spearmen
    Zama : 1 flag, 1 archer and 3 spearmen
    Leptis Magna : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys and 1 city

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 53 / 63
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Carthage
            Carthage buy 2 cavalrys, 6 swordmen and 2 triremes; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Carthage
            1 spearman moved from Lilybaeum to Syracuse
                  Carthage take Syracuse from GreekCityStates
            3 biremes and 2 triremes moved from SZ 33 to SZ 34
            2 spearmen and 1 warelephant moved from Thapsus to Thenae
            1 cavalry moved from Thapsus to Thenae
            2 cavalrys moved from Thapsus to SZ 36
            2 biremes and 2 cavalrys moved from SZ 36 to SZ 33
            1 cavalry moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 cavalry moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 spearman and 2 swordmen moved from Carthago Nova to Valentia
            1 spearman moved from Acci to SZ 15
            2 biremes and 1 spearman moved from SZ 15 to SZ 16
            1 spearman moved from SZ 16 to Valentia
            6 spearmen and 5 swordmen moved from Castulo to Valentia
            2 cavalrys moved from Salmantica to Valentia
            1 swordman moved from Salmantica to Castulo

Combat - Carthage
            Battle in Valentia
                Carthage attack with 2 cavalrys, 8 spearmen and 7 swordmen
                Neutral defend with 2 archers, 3 axemen and 1 swordman
                Carthage win, taking Valentia from Neutral with 2 cavalrys, 6 spearmen and 7 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 archers, 3 axemen and 1 swordman
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen
            Battle in Thenae
                Carthage attack with 1 cavalry, 2 spearmen and 1 warelephant
                Neutral defend with 1 archer and 2 spearmen
                Units damaged: 1 warelephant owned by the Carthage
                Carthage win, taking Thenae from Neutral with 1 cavalry and 1 warelephant remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 archer and 2 spearmen
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen

Non Combat Move - Carthage

Place Units - Carthage
            1 trireme placed in SZ 32
            1 trireme placed in SZ 34
            4 swordmen placed in Lilybaeum
            2 cavalrys and 2 swordmen placed in Carthago Nova

Turn Complete - Carthage
            Carthage collect 68 PUs; end with 69 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

Territory Summary for Carthage :

Thenae : 1 flag, 1 cavalry and 1 warelephant
    Salmantica : 1 flag
    Caralis : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Aleria : 1 flag, 2 spearmen
    Castulo : 1 flag, 1 swordman
    Carthago Nova : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 1 city and 2 swordmen
    Carthago : 1 flag, 1 city and 3 spearmen
    Syracuse : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    SZ 33 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    SZ 32 : 1 flag, 1 trireme
    SZ 34 : 1 flag, 3 biremes and 3 triremes
    Palma : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Lilybaeum : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 1 city, 1 hoplite, 15 spearmen, 4 swordmen and 1 warelephant
    Valentia : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 6 spearmen and 7 swordmen
    SZ 16 : 1 flag, 2 biremes

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 68 / 69
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 25 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 53 / 63
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22

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@Ajmdemen:

But if you won, Greece would be in pretty hopeless position.

Ok, I will mark today as the day I nearly beat Ajmdemen  :-D

But it wouldnt have been fair. If you can destroy a nation in round one with the natural move, the map has a big flaw. It would have only been the exploit of a design bug. But you shouldnt count on me not recognising the next chance. Sometimes even I notice chances :-)

[Veqryn]

out of curiosity ajmdemen, how in hell was that not balanced?
especially because this game is default to dice, not LL, which means most people can not do that little retreat move into athens like you just did (ie: they might get screwed by good OR bad dice, and stuck in corinth)

[Ajmdemen]

I should have put the Roman unit in Athens, but still it is the first time Ive seen such results (its about 5% to happen, so not so low though).

I think the map is balanced around LL. On the other hand playing seleucs should be harder with setting dice instead of LL, which could compensate somewhat for more problematic greek opening