BotA - r3 - 270BC - Ajmdemen .vs. Pug6000

[Ajmdemen]

Hi Pug, seems we come up against each other for 270 BC.

I would prefer to play LL, in other things I can surely adjust.

[pug6000]

I would have prefered to fight you on Napoleonic Empires  :-D

Low Luck is ok for me.

Ok, now lets decide about sides. How shall it be done? Bid? Dice for sides?

Btw - how often did you play the map already? I can offer one game  :-)

Pug

[Ajmdemen]

Ha, Napoleonic Empires was a new experience for me, so it would have been tough :) with 270 bc to be honest, I have quite significant experience, I used to play it a lot once.

If you have any side preference, you can choose. BTW - Im on the lobby for another hour or 2 - if you have time now, we could start it off.

[pug6000]

@Ajmdemen:

Ha, Napoleonic Empires was a new experience for me, so it would have been tough :) with 270 bc to be honest, I have quite significant experience, I used to play it a lot once.

The problem is, that you are experienced in all tournament maps except Napoleonic Empires :-)

In my very first game I played Roman Alliance, so it’s now time to switch sides and play Carthage.

Any other wishes? I can use your email from the NWO tournament.

And I think I should play pbem to have at least a tiny chance to tease you  :-D

[Ajmdemen]

No problem with that at all. I await your first turn then.

[pug6000]

Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.6.1.2, time: 10:09:31

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Carthage
            Carthage buy 2 biremes, 2 citys and 3 spearmen; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Carthage
            1 spearman moved from Melita to SZ 36
            1 hoplite moved from Carthago to SZ 36
            2 spearmen moved from Thapsus to SZ 36
            1 bireme, 1 hoplite, 3 spearmen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 36 to SZ 33
            1 hoplite and 3 spearmen moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            2 spearmen moved from Caralis to SZ 32
            3 spearmen moved from Carthago to SZ 32
            2 biremes, 5 spearmen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 32 to SZ 33
            5 spearmen moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from Gades to SZ 14
            2 biremes, 1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from SZ 14 to SZ 15
            3 spearmen and 2 swordmen moved from Carthago Nova to Castulo
            4 spearmen and 3 swordmen moved from Corduba to Castulo
            1 swordman moved from Acci to Carthago Nova
            1 spearman and 1 swordman moved from SZ 15 to Carthago Nova
            1 spearman moved from Gades to Acci
            2 cavalrys moved from Corduba to Salmantica
            2 spearmen and 1 swordman moved from Hispatis to Salmantica
            1 spearman moved from Carthago to Thapsus
            1 warelephant moved from Carthago to Thapsus
            3 cavalrys moved from Carthago to Thapsus

Combat - Carthage
            Battle in Salmantica
                Carthage attack with 2 cavalrys, 2 spearmen and 1 swordman
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 1 swordman
                    Carthage roll dice for 2 cavalrys, 2 spearmen and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 3 cavalrys and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    2 cavalrys owned by the Neutral and 1 spearman owned by the Carthage lost in Salmantica
                    Carthage roll dice for 2 cavalrys, 1 spearman and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 cavalry and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 cavalry owned by the Neutral and 1 spearman owned by the Carthage lost in Salmantica
                    Carthage roll dice for 2 cavalrys and 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 3 :  1/0 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 swordman in Salmantica, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 swordman owned by the Neutral lost in Salmantica
                Carthage win, taking Salmantica from Neutral with 2 cavalrys and 1 swordman remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 1 swordman
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen
            Battle in Castulo
                Carthage attack with 7 spearmen and 5 swordmen
                Neutral defend with 2 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                    Carthage roll dice for 7 spearmen and 5 swordmen in Castulo, round 1 :  3/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 2 cavalrys and 3 swordmen in Castulo, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 swordman owned by the Neutral , 2 cavalrys owned by the Neutral and 1 spearman owned by the Carthage lost in Castulo
                    Carthage roll dice for 6 spearmen and 5 swordmen in Castulo, round 2 :  3/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 2 swordmen in Castulo, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    2 swordmen owned by the Neutral lost in Castulo
                Carthage win, taking Castulo from Neutral with 6 spearmen and 5 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                Casualties for Carthage: 1 spearman

Non Combat Move - Carthage

Place Units - Carthage
            1 city placed in Lilybaeum
            1 city placed in Carthago Nova
            2 biremes placed in SZ 36
            3 spearmen placed in Carthago

Turn Complete - Carthage
            Carthage collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs total

Territory Summary for Carthage :

Salmantica : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys and 1 swordman
    Caralis : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Thapsus : 1 flag, 3 cavalrys, 2 spearmen and 1 warelephant
    Aleria : 1 flag, 2 spearmen
    Castulo : 1 flag, 6 spearmen and 5 swordmen
    Carthago Nova : 1 flag, 1 city, 1 spearman and 2 swordmen
    Carthago : 1 flag, 1 city and 3 spearmen
    SZ 36 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    SZ 33 : 1 flag, 3 biremes and 2 triremes
    Acci : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Palma : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Lilybaeum : 1 flag, 1 city, 1 hoplite, 16 spearmen and 1 warelephant
    SZ 15 : 1 flag, 2 biremes

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 43 / 43
    GreekCityStates : 34 / 34
    Macedonia : 29 / 29
    Egypt : 47 / 47
    Seleucid : 55 / 55
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3,556
        Median : 4,000
        Variance : 1,375
        Standard Deviation : 1,173
        Total rolls : 9

Neutral Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 4,000
        Median : 5,000
        Variance : 2,750
        Standard Deviation : 1,658
        Total rolls : 5

Carthage Combat
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,000
        Median : 2,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 4

[pug6000]

And of course you are welcome to point out my mistakes as soon as telling me doesnt hurt your own plans anymore.

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic buy 1 city and 8 velitess; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - RomanRepublic
            2 biremes and 2 triremes moved from SZ 28 to SZ 25
            3 legionaires and 4 velitess moved from Arretium to Genua
            1 ballista, 2 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Ariminum to Genua
            2 cavalrys moved from Roma to Genua
            1 velites moved from Tarentum to SZ 44
            1 bireme and 1 velites moved from SZ 44 to SZ 50
            1 velites moved from SZ 50 to Delphi
            2 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Salapia to Ariminum
            1 velites moved from Croton to Tarentum
            2 legionaires moved from Tarentum to Salapia
            1 legionaire moved from Croton to Tarentum
            1 legionaire and 2 velitess moved from Croton to Capua
            1 cavalry moved from Capua to Arretium
            3 legionaires moved from Capua to Salapia
            2 velitess moved from Roma to Capua
            1 ballista, 4 legionaires and 3 velitess moved from Roma to Arretium

Combat - RomanRepublic
            Battle in Genua
                RomanRepublic attack with 1 ballista, 2 cavalrys, 5 legionaires and 7 velitess
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                RomanRepublic win, taking Genua from Neutral with 1 ballista, 2 cavalrys, 5 legionaires and 5 velitess remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 3 swordmen
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 2 velitess

Non Combat Move - RomanRepublic

Place Units - RomanRepublic
            1 city placed in Capua
            8 velitess placed in Roma

Turn Complete - RomanRepublic
            RomanRepublic collect 47 PUs; end with 51 PUs total

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates buy 1 archer, 1 cavalry, 1 city, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - GreekCityStates
            2 cavalrys, 5 hoplites and 4 slingerss moved from Syracuse to Messana
            1 hoplite and 1 slingers moved from Rhodos to SZ 67
            3 biremes, 1 hoplite, 1 slingers and 2 triremes moved from SZ 67 to SZ 68
            1 cavalry moved from Athens to SZ 68
            1 cavalry, 1 hoplite and 1 slingers moved from SZ 68 to Sardis
            2 archers, 3 hoplites and 4 slingerss moved from Pergamum to Sardis
            6 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Sparta to Corinth
            2 archers, 5 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Athens to Corinth
            1 archer, 2 hoplites and 3 slingerss moved from Delphi to Athens

Combat - GreekCityStates
            Battle in Corinth
                GreekCityStates attack with 2 archers, 11 hoplites and 6 slingerss
                Macedonia defend with 2 cavalrys, 5 hoplites, 4 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                8 hoplites owned by the GreekCityStates retreated to Athens
                Macedonia win with 1 hoplite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Macedonia: 2 cavalrys, 4 hoplites, 4 peltastss and 2 swordmen
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 2 archers, 3 hoplites and 6 slingerss
            Battle in Sardis
                GreekCityStates attack with 2 archers, 1 cavalry, 4 hoplites and 5 slingerss
                Seleucid defend with 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss
                GreekCityStates win, taking Sardis from Seleucid with 2 archers, 1 cavalry, 4 hoplites and 1 slingers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for GreekCityStates: 4 slingerss
                Casualties for Seleucid: 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss

Non Combat Move - GreekCityStates

Place Units - GreekCityStates
            1 city placed in Athens
            1 archer, 1 cavalry, 1 hoplite and 3 slingerss placed in Sparta

Turn Complete - GreekCityStates
            GreekCityStates collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Macedonia
            Macedonia buy 3 biremes, 1 cavalry and 2 peltastss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Macedonia
            1 peltasts moved from Dodona to Delphi
            1 swordman moved from Larissa to Delphi
            2 hoplites and 3 peltastss moved from Dodona to Larissa
            1 hoplite moved from Pella to Dodona
            1 cavalry moved from Pella to Odessus
            4 peltastss moved from Philippopolis to Odessus
            1 cavalry moved from Philippopolis to Odessus
            2 cavalrys moved from Thessalonica to Odessus
            2 hoplites moved from Philippopolis to Thessalonica
            1 peltasts moved from Thessalonica to SZ 70
            1 peltasts moved from SZ 70 to Pergamum
                  Macedonia take Pergamum from GreekCityStates
            2 biremes moved from SZ 70 to SZ 69
            3 hoplites, 3 peltastss and 2 swordmen moved from Thessalonica to Larissa
            1 cavalry moved from Larissa to Odessus
            3 peltastss moved from Pella to Dodona

Combat - Macedonia
            Battle in Odessus
                Macedonia attack with 5 cavalrys and 4 peltastss
                Neutral defend with 1 axeman and 3 swordmen
                    Macedonia roll dice for 5 cavalrys and 4 peltastss in Odessus, round 1 :  3/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 axeman and 3 swordmen in Odessus, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 axeman owned by the Neutral , 2 swordmen owned by the Neutral and 1 peltasts owned by the Macedonia lost in Odessus
                    Macedonia roll dice for 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss in Odessus, round 2 :  2/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 1 swordman in Odessus, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 swordman owned by the Neutral lost in Odessus
                Macedonia win, taking Odessus from Neutral with 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Macedonia: 1 peltasts
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 axeman and 3 swordmen
            Battle in Delphi
                Macedonia attack with 1 peltasts and 1 swordman
                RomanRepublic defend with 1 velites
                    Macedonia roll dice for 1 peltasts and 1 swordman in Delphi, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    GreekCityStates roll dice for 1 velites in Delphi, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 velites owned by the RomanRepublic lost in Delphi
                Macedonia win, taking Delphi from GreekCityStates with 1 peltasts and 1 swordman remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for RomanRepublic: 1 velites

Non Combat Move - Macedonia

Place Units - Macedonia
            3 biremes placed in SZ 69
            1 cavalry and 2 peltastss placed in Thessalonica

Turn Complete - Macedonia
            Macedonia collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs total

Territory Summary for Macedonia :

Thessalonica : 1 flag, 1 cavalry, 1 city, 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss
    Larissa : 1 flag, 7 hoplites, 11 peltastss and 2 swordmen
    Corinth : 1 flag, 1 hoplite
    Pergamum : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    SZ 70 : 1 flag, 1 trireme
    Delphi : 1 flag, 1 peltasts and 1 swordman
    SZ 69 : 1 flag, 5 biremes
    Odessus : 1 flag, 5 cavalrys and 3 peltastss
    Dodona : 1 flag, 1 hoplite and 3 peltastss

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 47 / 47
    Seleucid : 48 / 55
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,167
        Median : 2,500
        Variance : 1,200
        Standard Deviation : 1,095
        Total rolls : 6

GreekCityStates Combat
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 6,000
        Median : 6,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Macedonia Combat
            2 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 2,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 4,500
        Standard Deviation : 2,121
        Total rolls : 3

Neutral Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3,500
        Median : 3,500
        Variance : 2,000
        Standard Deviation : 1,414
        Total rolls : 2

[Ajmdemen]

I think it was well worth it to try the 42% on Athens. I didn’t like that dice in Corinth at all…

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Egypt
            Egypt buy 9 axemen and 1 city; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Egypt
            3 axemen moved from Alexandria to SZ 57
            3 axemen and 3 biremes moved from SZ 57 to SZ 63
            2 archers and 1 spearman moved from Alexandria to SZ 57
            1 archer and 2 spearmen moved from Memphis to SZ 58
            1 archer, 2 spearmen and 1 trireme moved from SZ 58 to SZ 59
            1 archer and 2 spearmen moved from SZ 59 to Jerusalem
            2 archers, 1 spearman and 1 trireme moved from SZ 57 to SZ 58
            2 archers and 1 spearman moved from SZ 58 to Pharan
            2 axemen, 1 chariot and 3 spearmen moved from Memphis to Pharan
            3 archers, 4 axemen and 2 spearmen moved from Hermopolis to Memphis
            2 chariots and 3 spearmen moved from Alexandria to Memphis
            2 chariots moved from Memphis to Pharan
            1 chariot moved from Pharan to Jerusalem
            3 axemen, 2 chariots and 4 spearmen moved from Sidon to Damascus
            2 axemen, 1 chariot and 5 spearmen moved from Jerusalem to Damascus

Combat - Egypt
            Battle in Damascus
                Egypt attack with 5 axemen, 3 chariots and 9 spearmen
                Seleucid defend with 2 cavalrys, 2 hoplites, 1 legionaire and 3 peltastss
                8 spearmen owned by the Egypt , 3 axemen owned by the Egypt and 3 chariots owned by the Egypt retreated to Jerusalem
                Seleucid win with 1 hoplite remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 axemen and 1 spearman
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 cavalrys, 1 hoplite, 1 legionaire and 3 peltastss

Non Combat Move - Egypt
            1 spearman moved from Sidon to Jerusalem

Place Units - Egypt
            1 city placed in Jerusalem
            9 axemen placed in Alexandria

Turn Complete - Egypt
            Egypt collect 47 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

[pug6000]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Seleucid
            Seleucid buy 10 cavalrys and 1 city; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Seleucid
            1 hoplite moved from Damascus to Palmyra
            5 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss moved from Seleucia to Palmyra
            1 hoplite, 1 legionaire and 2 peltastss moved from Emesa to Damascus
            2 cataphracts and 2 cavalrys moved from Seleucia to Emesa
            1 cataphract and 1 cavalry moved from Hatra to Emesa
            1 peltasts moved from Hatra to Seleucia
            3 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 3 peltastss moved from Edessa to Emesa
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from Tarsus to Attalia
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from Antioch to SZ 61
            2 hoplites and 2 peltastss moved from SZ 61 to Salamis
            1 cataphract moved from Antioch to Tarsus
            1 cavalry moved from Edessa to Tarsus
            2 cavalrys moved from Antioch to Tarsus
            2 legionaires moved from Antioch to Sidon
            2 hoplites and 4 peltastss moved from Antioch to Damascus

Combat - Seleucid
            Battle in Palmyra
                Seleucid attack with 6 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss
                Neutral defend with 3 cavalrys and 4 spearmen
                    Seleucid roll dice for 6 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 5 peltastss in Palmyra, round 1 :  4/1 hits
                    Neutral roll dice for 3 cavalrys and 4 spearmen in Palmyra, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Neutral , 3 cavalrys owned by the Neutral and 2 peltastss owned by the Seleucid lost in Palmyra
                6 hoplites owned by the Seleucid , 3 peltastss owned by the Seleucid and 2 legionaires owned by the Seleucid retreated to Damascus
                Neutral win with 3 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Seleucid: 2 peltastss
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 cavalrys and 1 spearman
            Battle in Salamis
                Seleucid attack with 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss
                Egypt defend with 2 spearmen
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 hoplites and 2 peltastss in Salamis, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 2 spearmen in Salamis, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt and 1 peltasts owned by the Seleucid lost in Salamis
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts in Salamis, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 1 spearman in Salamis, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt lost in Salamis
                Seleucid win, taking Salamis from Egypt with 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Egypt: 2 spearmen
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 peltasts
            Battle in Sidon
                Seleucid attack with 2 legionaires
                Egypt defend with 1 spearman
                    Seleucid roll dice for 2 legionaires in Sidon, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Egypt roll dice for 1 spearman in Sidon, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 spearman owned by the Egypt and 1 legionaire owned by the Seleucid lost in Sidon
                Seleucid win, taking Sidon from Egypt with 1 legionaire remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Egypt: 1 spearman
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 legionaire

Non Combat Move - Seleucid

Place Units - Seleucid
            10 cavalrys placed in Antioch
            1 city placed in Tarsus

Turn Complete - Seleucid
            Seleucid collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total

Territory Summary for Seleucid :

Damascus : 1 flag, 9 hoplites, 3 legionaires and 9 peltastss
    Salamis : 1 flag, 2 hoplites and 1 peltasts
    Antioch : 1 flag, 10 cavalrys and 1 city
    SZ 61 : 1 flag, 1 bireme and 1 trireme
    Tarsus : 1 flag, 1 cataphract, 3 cavalrys and 1 city
    Hatra : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Seleucia : 1 flag, 1 peltasts
    Sidon : 1 flag, 1 legionaire
    Emesa : 1 flag, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys, 3 hoplites, 2 legionaires and 3 peltastss
    Attalia : 1 flag, 4 hoplites and 3 peltastss

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 63 / 63
    Parthia : 30 / 30
    Numidia : 17 / 17

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,143
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,167
        Standard Deviation : 1,080
        Total rolls : 7

Egypt Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,000
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 3

Seleucid Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2,667
        Median : 2,000
        Variance : 1,500
        Standard Deviation : 1,225
        Total rolls : 3

Neutral Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1,000
        Median : 1,000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

[pug6000]

@Ajmdemen:

I think it was well worth it to try the 42% on Athens. I didn’t like that dice in Corinth at all…

You are right about it. I just forgot to move to include the hoplite from Corinth into my calculations. Otherwise I would have done it. even if I wouldnt take it, I would get it the turn after.

[Ajmdemen]

I could probably manage to barely hold it next rounds if it held.

But if you won, Greece would be in pretty hopeless position.

[Ajmdemen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Parthia
            Parthia buy 7 cavalrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Parthia
            3 archers and 7 spearmen moved from Ctesiphon to Seleucia
            2 archers, 1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 4 spearmen moved from Persepolis to Babylon
            1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 1 horsearcher moved from Ctesiphon to Babylon
            1 horsearcher moved from Ecbatana to Babylon
            2 horsearchers moved from Cyropolis to Babylon
            1 cataphract, 1 cavalry and 1 horsearcher moved from Susa to Babylon
            1 archer and 3 spearmen moved from Cyropolis to Ctesiphon
            1 archer and 4 spearmen moved from Ecbatana to Ctesiphon
            2 spearmen moved from Susa to Babylon
            3 archers and 5 spearmen moved from Susa to Seleucia

Combat - Parthia
            Battle in Seleucia
                Parthia attack with 6 archers and 12 spearmen
                Seleucid defend with 1 peltasts
                Parthia win, taking Seleucia from Seleucid with 6 archers and 12 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Seleucid: 1 peltasts
            Battle in Babylon
                Parthia attack with 2 archers, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys, 5 horsearchers and 6 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 3 archers and 7 spearmen
                Parthia win, taking Babylon from Neutral with 2 archers, 3 cataphracts, 3 cavalrys and 5 horsearchers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Neutral: 3 archers and 7 spearmen
                Casualties for Parthia: 6 spearmen

Non Combat Move - Parthia

Place Units - Parthia
            7 cavalrys placed in Persepolis

Turn Complete - Parthia
            Parthia collect 48 PUs; end with 50 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Numidia
            Numidia buy 4 cavalrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Numidia
            2 cavalrys moved from Leptis Magna to Cyrene
            1 cavalry and 1 spearman moved from Berenice to Cyrene
            1 cavalry and 2 spearmen moved from Paliurus to Cyrene
            3 spearmen moved from Leptis Magna to Berenice
            1 archer and 1 spearman moved from Zama to Capsa
            1 archer and 3 spearmen moved from Hippo Regius to Zama
            2 cavalrys moved from Hippo Regius to Auzia
            2 cavalrys and 5 spearmen moved from Cirta to Auzia
            2 cavalrys and 1 spearman moved from Igilgili to Auzia
            2 cavalrys moved from Zama to Auzia
            1 archer and 3 swordmen moved from Cirta to Theveste
            1 cavalry moved from Theveste to Auzia
            1 spearman moved from Theveste to Capsa

Combat - Numidia
            Battle in Auzia
                Numidia attack with 9 cavalrys and 6 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 1 spearman
                Numidia win, taking Auzia from Neutral with 9 cavalrys and 5 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 spearman
                Casualties for Numidia: 1 spearman
            Battle in Cyrene
                Numidia attack with 4 cavalrys and 3 spearmen
                Neutral defend with 1 archer and 3 spearmen
                Numidia win, taking Cyrene from Neutral with 4 cavalrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 archer and 3 spearmen
                Casualties for Numidia: 3 spearmen
            2 biremes moved from SZ 29 to SZ 30

Place Units - Numidia
            4 cavalrys placed in Leptis Magna

Turn Complete - Numidia
            Numidia collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs total

Territory Summary for Numidia :

Siwa : 1 flag, 2 archers and 4 spearmen
    Theveste : 1 flag, 1 archer and 3 swordmen
    Berenice : 1 flag, 3 spearmen
    Cyrene : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys
    Auzia : 1 flag, 9 cavalrys and 5 spearmen
    SZ 30 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    Capsa : 1 flag, 1 archer and 5 spearmen
    Zama : 1 flag, 1 archer and 3 spearmen
    Leptis Magna : 1 flag, 4 cavalrys and 1 city

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 57 / 57
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 31 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 53 / 63
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: 270BC, version: 1.1.2

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Carthage
            Carthage buy 2 cavalrys, 6 swordmen and 2 triremes; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Carthage
            1 spearman moved from Lilybaeum to Syracuse
                  Carthage take Syracuse from GreekCityStates
            3 biremes and 2 triremes moved from SZ 33 to SZ 34
            2 spearmen and 1 warelephant moved from Thapsus to Thenae
            1 cavalry moved from Thapsus to Thenae
            2 cavalrys moved from Thapsus to SZ 36
            2 biremes and 2 cavalrys moved from SZ 36 to SZ 33
            1 cavalry moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 cavalry moved from SZ 33 to Lilybaeum
            1 spearman and 2 swordmen moved from Carthago Nova to Valentia
            1 spearman moved from Acci to SZ 15
            2 biremes and 1 spearman moved from SZ 15 to SZ 16
            1 spearman moved from SZ 16 to Valentia
            6 spearmen and 5 swordmen moved from Castulo to Valentia
            2 cavalrys moved from Salmantica to Valentia
            1 swordman moved from Salmantica to Castulo

Combat - Carthage
            Battle in Valentia
                Carthage attack with 2 cavalrys, 8 spearmen and 7 swordmen
                Neutral defend with 2 archers, 3 axemen and 1 swordman
                Carthage win, taking Valentia from Neutral with 2 cavalrys, 6 spearmen and 7 swordmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 archers, 3 axemen and 1 swordman
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen
            Battle in Thenae
                Carthage attack with 1 cavalry, 2 spearmen and 1 warelephant
                Neutral defend with 1 archer and 2 spearmen
                Units damaged: 1 warelephant owned by the Carthage
                Carthage win, taking Thenae from Neutral with 1 cavalry and 1 warelephant remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 archer and 2 spearmen
                Casualties for Carthage: 2 spearmen

Non Combat Move - Carthage

Place Units - Carthage
            1 trireme placed in SZ 32
            1 trireme placed in SZ 34
            4 swordmen placed in Lilybaeum
            2 cavalrys and 2 swordmen placed in Carthago Nova

Turn Complete - Carthage
            Carthage collect 68 PUs; end with 69 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

Territory Summary for Carthage :

Thenae : 1 flag, 1 cavalry and 1 warelephant
    Salmantica : 1 flag
    Caralis : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Aleria : 1 flag, 2 spearmen
    Castulo : 1 flag, 1 swordman
    Carthago Nova : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 1 city and 2 swordmen
    Carthago : 1 flag, 1 city and 3 spearmen
    Syracuse : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    SZ 33 : 1 flag, 2 biremes
    SZ 32 : 1 flag, 1 trireme
    SZ 34 : 1 flag, 3 biremes and 3 triremes
    Palma : 1 flag, 1 spearman
    Lilybaeum : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 1 city, 1 hoplite, 15 spearmen, 4 swordmen and 1 warelephant
    Valentia : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 6 spearmen and 7 swordmen
    SZ 16 : 1 flag, 2 biremes

Production/PUs Summary :

Carthage : 68 / 69
    RomanRepublic : 47 / 51
    GreekCityStates : 25 / 41
    Macedonia : 43 / 43
    Egypt : 32 / 52
    Seleucid : 53 / 63
    Parthia : 48 / 50
    Numidia : 21 / 22

[pug6000]

@Ajmdemen:

But if you won, Greece would be in pretty hopeless position.

Ok, I will mark today as the day I nearly beat Ajmdemen  :-D

But it wouldnt have been fair. If you can destroy a nation in round one with the natural move, the map has a big flaw. It would have only been the exploit of a design bug. But you shouldnt count on me not recognising the next chance. Sometimes even I notice chances :-)