8-Player Napoleonic Empires Free-For-All

[Noll]

Don’t be harsh on Degrasse.

If you (France) reinforced Austria, I wouldnt have been able to take him down!

And btw UK in this game is very, very slow to develope. I won only because I believe I was the only payer with experience of this specific map/game.

[Noll]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.8

Game History

Round :13

Combat Move - Russia
            4 Barques moved from SZ6 to SZ7
            3 Kutusovs, 2 Mariness and 2 Mortarss moved from Prussia to SZ7
            5 Barques, 3 Brigantines, 3 Kutusovs, 2 Mariness and 2 Mortarss moved from SZ7 to SZ6
            3 Kutusovs, 2 Mariness and 2 Mortarss moved from SZ6 to Svealand
            3 Dragoonss and 1 Fusiliers moved from Ostra Gotaland to Svealand
            1 Barque moved from SZ93 to SZ94
            1 Fusiliers moved from Bessarabia to SZ94
            1 Barque and 1 Fusiliers moved from SZ94 to SZ93
            1 Fusiliers moved from SZ93 to Bulgaria
                  Russia take Bulgaria from France
            2 Artillerys, 3 Fusilierss and 1 Kutusov moved from Bessarabia to Moldavia
            3 Kutusovs moved from Kiev to Moldavia
            2 Brigantines moved from SZ93 to SZ94
            1 General moved from Bessarabia to Odessa
            1 Fusiliers moved from Astrakahn to Lazes
                  Russia take Lazes from Neutral
            1 Cuirassiers, 2 Dragoonss and 2 Fusilierss moved from Brandenburg to Mecklenburg
            1 Cuirassiers moved from Silesia to Mecklenburg
            1 Chasseurs moved from Brandenburg to Mecklenburg
            3 Fusilierss moved from Silesia to Brandenburg
            3 Chasseurss, 1 Grenadiers and 5 Howitzers moved from Austria to Bohemia
            11 Artillerys moved from Austria to Bohemia
            3 Cuirassierss, 9 Dragoonss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 3 Kutusovs moved from Austria to Salzburg
            1 Cuirassiers and 4 Dragoonss moved from Hungary to Zala

Purchase Units - Russia
            Russia buy 4 Chasseurss, 7 Dragoonss, 4 Fortresss and 2 Mariness; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat - Russia
            Battle in Zala
                Russia attack with 1 Cuirassiers and 4 Dragoonss
                Neutral defend with 1 Encampment and 2 Fusilierss
                Russia win, taking Zala from Neutral with 1 Cuirassiers and 3 Dragoonss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 Fusilierss
                Casualties for Russia: 1 Dragoons
            Battle in Salzburg
                Russia attack with 3 Cuirassierss, 9 Dragoonss, 1 Horse_Artillery and 3 Kutusovs
                Neutral defend with 1 Fortress, 2 Fusilierss and 1 General
                Russia win, taking Salzburg from Neutral with 3 Cuirassierss, 8 Dragoonss and 3 Kutusovs remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 Fortress and 2 Fusilierss
                Casualties for Russia: 1 Dragoons and 1 Horse_Artillery
            Battle in Svealand
                Russia attack with 3 Dragoonss, 1 Fusiliers, 3 Kutusovs, 2 Mariness and 2 Mortarss
                Neutral defend with 2 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons and 1 Fusiliers
                Russia win, taking Svealand from Neutral with 3 Dragoonss, 3 Kutusovs, 2 Mariness and 2 Mortarss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Neutral: 2 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons and 1 Fusiliers
                Casualties for Russia: 1 Fusiliers
            Battle in Bohemia
                Russia attack with 11 Artillerys, 3 Chasseurss, 1 Grenadiers and 5 Howitzers
                Neutral defend with 1 Fusiliers
                Russia win, taking Bohemia from Neutral with 11 Artillerys, 3 Chasseurss, 1 Grenadiers and 5 Howitzers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 Fusiliers
            Battle in Mecklenburg
                Russia attack with 1 Chasseurs, 2 Cuirassierss, 2 Dragoonss and 2 Fusilierss
                France defend with 1 Artillery and 2 Fusilierss
                Russia win, taking Mecklenburg from France with 1 Chasseurs, 2 Cuirassierss and 2 Dragoonss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for France: 1 Artillery and 2 Fusilierss
                Casualties for Russia: 2 Fusilierss
            Battle in Moldavia
                Russia attack with 2 Artillerys, 3 Fusilierss and 4 Kutusovs
                Neutral defend with 1 Fusiliers
                Russia win, taking Moldavia from Neutral with 2 Artillerys, 3 Fusilierss and 4 Kutusovs remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Neutral: 1 Fusiliers

Non Combat Move - Russia

Place Units - Russia
            4 Chasseurss placed in Prussia
            3 Fortresss placed in Brandenburg
            1 Fortress placed in Hungary
            2 Mariness placed in Odessa
            7 Dragoonss placed in Austria

Turn Complete - Russia
            Russia collect 100 PUs; end with 102 PUs total
            Objective Russia destroys TUV: Russia met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 106 PUs

[Noll]

Russia claims Victory with 7 Victory Cities!

You have 1turn to claim a City, otherwise Russia is the only winner of this game!

[Noll]

**** Marches of Joy to Catherine the Great, the empress of peace. After the wars that pestered Europe, finally Russia and then the UK stopped the warmachine of Napoleon Bonaparte. The war continued for few years, but in the end Catherine gave back Constantinople to the Ottoman friends, and left France to the UK to sack and give them a lesson ****

Long live the holy monarchy! My God bless Russia and the United Kingdom!

[Noll]

My = may  :-D

[Degrasse]

I found this map very interesting, thank you all for the game.  I can’t get to Stockholm quick enough, there’s some sort of strait at Denmark?

What’s the WW2 map you want to start?

[moilami]

The game is over. Russia achieved porjection of power when I clicked done to go to politics screen.

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You would had no problems in getting to Stockholm by land. You just did not want to do that because it would had compromised your position near Gibraltar, so you rather let Russia win instead of changing the game by forcing Russia to secure Sweden and you to compromise Gibraltar.

Also, when Russia and Ottomans were about to overrun Europe you did nothing to stop that. That can be argued though to be your winning strategy, just very hopeless one.

In conclusion, you were totally late and you did nothing to stop Russia from winning, hence you suck 100%. All you did was made way for Russian victory - yet you ended below France in all stats. I am not really interested to play with you anymore, even a revenge in balanced map for team game is just not worth it to play with you.

Anyway, lets see how you, Russia, and Ottomans do vs Me and MIR in a map where you don’t have 3/5 overpower. You hope you can get your allies, Noll and Process, into that game.

I propose several maps in no particular order.

a) World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
b) Total World War: December 1941
c) Pact of Steel
d) World At War
e) World War II v5 1942 Second Edition
f) New World Order

As for now, FU.

[pr0c3ss]

lol…handbags.

what you suggest is possible, but if it gets too much (along side work) i’ll have to drop out.  Should be fine

[moilami]

@pr0c3ss:

lol…handbags.

what you suggest is possible, but if it gets too much (along side work) i’ll have to drop out.  Should be fine

Very cool!

Now I begin to get excited of this revenge game, where it doesn’t matter if Degras is effectively played by Noll, like in this shit game where UK was played by Russians  :roll:

[Noll]

How did I played Degrasse? I basically never sent him a pm.

If you reinforced Austria instead of attacking the Ottomans? Maybe you could have convinced the Ottomans to attack me.

[moilami]

@Noll:

How did I played Degrasse? I basically never sent him a pm.

If you reinforced Austria instead of attacking the Ottomans? Maybe you could have convinced the Ottomans to attack me.

You played Degrasse/UK by UK not trying to deny the victory from you in Sweden even though I said him well in advance to do so, or else you win because none else can do it.

Idiot UK was your free navy, and would had been the best if he would had told so at rouund 1 so that we never played this shit game.

I don’t begin to argue what I should had done and where, when the fact is that UK did nothing to deny victory from you at the time when he was the only one to do so.

So talk about Kingmaker with your free navy.

It was 3vs2 from start to end, and we still smashed one of you.

Now lets try again in a map BALANCED for team play  :mrgreen:

[Noll]

moilami UK cant enter the Baltic

[moilami]

@Noll:

moilami UK cant enter the Baltic

UK could had landed to Vastra Gotaland and from there proceed to Stockholm. The canal access was totally unneeded for him. Even my aunt could understand that.

The only reason you won this is because you had free navy by UK.

I ask you one more question after I have found the UK to quote.

[Noll]

lol if instead you were the one to win I bet it would have been out of smart play.

The reality is that the only one that could have stopped me was France. But you wanted badly to expand…

UK is not as strong as you think he is.

IMHO France and Austria are stronger.

[moilami]

@Degrasse:

To the extant that the evil French Republic may choose to interfere more in the efforts of Russia to reach seven victory cities before His Majesty’s forces capture the seventh yellow, yes you may pick the winner.

Earlier in this thread there was griping about the invincible position of the Britain because of the naval disparity.  I can see your point about the disparity, this is my first game on this map but after a few turns to get the hang of it the British navy is very hard to stop.

Here, the delusional UK thought that he would have a chance to get 7 cities, lolololol.

What I want to know and what will be my last question is that did you manage to talk UK to believe that you would not take Stockholm before UK can get 7 cities too? If you did, then that was some EPIC politics.

If you did not, then UK was just your free navy.

[moilami]

@Noll:

lol if instead you were the one to win I bet it would have been out of smart play.

The reality is that the only one that could have stopped me was France. But you wanted badly to expand…

UK is not as strong as you think he is.

IMHO France and Austria are stronger.

Are you not a man enough to admit that your victory was COMPLETELY made possible by UK being your free navy, and not even trying to deny the win from you? Who had access to Stockholm? UK. What UK did? Fight against France. You two were never in war during the whole game, not even then when UK was the only one able to deny the victory from you.

You are total shit if you can’t admit that fact.

[Noll]

Russia and UK in war is pointless…

UK was busy chasing your navy the first rounds.

He wouldnt have been able to stop me even if he wanted to.

Moilami I understand you are one of these guys that can’t accept defeat. I know how this map works.

Let’s assume UK goes all in on me (and lets you grab Spains VS and win the game like you planned to)

I have fast reinforcments in Stokholm (3fortress per turn plus up to 11 land units moving in Sweden each turn)

UK can come in with a big navy, yeah, but after that, he won’t have any reinforcments coming soon, while I can build 5battleships/round.

I am producing 110, he his producing 60.

[Noll]

Also apparently you’re saying that I won because FRANCE and AUSTRIA together weren’t enough to stop RUSSIA (lol), you needed also UK!!!

Then you say 3 way war, it was YOU and only YOU that declared war on the Ottomans. If you were smart enough, you would have bribed them into attacking me from the south, instead of forcing them to defend.

End of story, this game is done, you blabbled a LOT on it, you lost! Next time you’re playing France, instead of wasting tons of IPCs on an useless navy that holds UK off for few turns, build what you are strong for: LAND UNITS, and conquer Austria/Spain/Italy, claiming victory!

Uk gets your coastal territories? OMG! Does that make him win? Shocking news: NO

Does UK navy bring him victory? Shocking news: NO

The two nations that have it easy in the 5player game are France and Austria. Especially Austria as he starts with 4 cities. If he goes ALL IN on Russia and France is so stupid to let it happen, after Russia falls, austria will have 7 cities (4 starting ones, 2 russian + stokholm)

[Make_It_Round]

To my mind, this thread has served its purpose, in training us up on diplomacy rules and finally generating a real 8-player game.

I’m going to focus on that game, and not take part in any grudge match on here.

You guys are welcome to keep discussing this, but I’m out.

See you on the other thread,

MIR

[moilami]

Stop blabbering that nonsense, though there was something good in it, you clearly understand why you won with your free navy.

Had UK tried to take Sweden, hereby doing something else then being your free navy, he would had had to invest on Sweden. If you still wanted to take Sweden, then you would had to invest on Sweden.

UK investing Sweden would had been away from UK Medi operations, which would had meant I could had invest more on Central Europe.

You investing to Sweden would had been in turn away from your Central Europe investments.

All that together would had meant more power for France in both Mediterranean and Europe, and less power for you in Mediterranean and Europe.

Now you can say that you would had not contested Sweden. That does not change the fact that UK fought all the time against France (what he is entitled to do), and never at any point against you, even when he could had stopped you from winning (when he should had fought against you no matter what by taking Sweden). I said this to him well in advance, and he replied to me something idiotic “maybe I take Paris”  :roll:

You got free navy by UK, which never did anything to deny win from you.

GZ of your victory. Want to try Free For All where I have free navy?