Antholin (Axis) vs Infrastructure (Allies)

[Antholin]

They did a hell of a lot better than I originally thought. The finest sake will be awaiting them on their return to the home islands.

@Infrastructure:

Over the course of this turn those 3 jpn subs killed 1sub, 1carr, 2dest, the latter by rolling 2 out of 3 hits on 1s.  I rolled a 1, 3 2’s, 2 3’s and a 4 and only got 1 hit.  Give those punks medals.

[Antholin]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 airfield and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 transports moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            1 bomber moved from Alexandria to Romania
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Egypt, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Egypt, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Romania
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Romania, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Romania, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Romania
                Italians win, taking Romania from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Romania to Northern Italy
            1 carrier moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            5 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 5 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Alexandria : 1 flag
    Gibraltar : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Egypt : 1 flag, 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Malta : 1 flag
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Romania : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major and 10 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    98 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 43 / 52
    Russians : 39 / 42
    Japanese : 47 / 58
    Americans : 57 / 81
    Chinese : 9 / 9
    British : 32 / 32
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
    Italians : 15 / 30
    ANZAC : 12 / 23
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.000
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.111
        Standard Deviation : 1.054
        Total rolls : 10

Russians Combat
            2 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2.000
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

British Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2.500
        Median : 2.500
        Variance : 2.000
        Standard Deviation : 1.414
        Total rolls : 2

Italians Combat
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.286
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.167
        Standard Deviation : 1.080
        Total rolls : 7

[Antholin]

I originally bought the airfield for Egypt, but completely overlooked the fact I didn’t control since start of turn. I had a different defense plan worked out for Egypt with an airfield for added coverage, sorry about that. So, I switched it out for the added infantry.

[Antholin]

Nevermind, I did the same crap I pulled on my German move, I’m sorry. Here is the updated file with just the original 5 Infantry, nothing else. Please use this.

Italy turn 4 end.tsvg

[Major Major]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Persia: 3 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Iraq: 3 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Trans-Jordan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Iraq: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 80 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 72 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 factory_minor placed in Persia
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs

[Antholin]

Just need you to post your French turn.

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Persia: 3 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Iraq: 3 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Trans-Jordan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Iraq: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 80 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 72 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 factory_minor placed in Persia
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :4

Politics - French

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Antholin]

So, its asking if you want to scramble in SZ115? I don’t know why, as I’m not attaking Novgorod, and you don’t have any naval units in that sea zone. I thought those two factors had to be in play for a scramble? Just let me know. Thanks.

G5CM.tsvg

[Antholin]

All right, so I just went completely through the newest ruleset for Global, and I see that fighters can scramble if an adjacent land territory is being attacked by amphibious assault. I apologize for the confusion, I don’t believe I had encountered that specific area of scramble yet.

[Major Major]

That is how it works.  You can redo your turn from the start if you want.

[Antholin]

Thank you sir, I do appreciate it. I have redone it a bit, to reflect better protection of my navy. Scramble in SZ115?

G4CM-updated.tsvg

[Major Major]

no scramble!

[Antholin]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 8 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 artillery moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Baltic States
            8 armour, 15 artilleries, 15 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 8 armour, 15 artilleries, 15 infantry, 11 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 15 artilleries, 15 infantry, 11 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Belarus, round 1 :  15/51 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Belarus, round 1 :  0/4 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 8 armour, 15 artilleries, 15 infantry, 11 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Baltic States, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 1 :  3/8 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in Baltic States, round 1 :  0/4 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 :  4/8 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  3/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 fighters moved from Morocco to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Western Germany
            3 submarines moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Belarus to Romania
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Romania
            2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia

Place Units - Germans
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            3 infantry placed in Western Germany
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Germans undo move 5.
            Germans undo move 4.
            Germans undo move 3.
            Germans undo move 1.
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Western Germany
            5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 113 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Gibraltar : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Egypt : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 8 infantry
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Western Germany : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Romania : 1 flag, 3 tactical_bombers
    Germany : 1 flag, 1 factory_major and 6 mech_infantrys
    Holland Belgium : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Belarus : 1 flag, 3 aaGuns, 8 armour, 15 artilleries, 15 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys
    Karelia : 1 flag, 2 artilleries and 12 infantry
    Baltic States : 1 flag, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
    Bessarabia : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    119 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    113 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 4 submarines
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    Greece : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    115 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag
    98 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 transport
    Finland : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 49 / 59
    Russians : 36 / 42
    Japanese : 43 / 58
    Americans : 57 / 81
    Chinese : 9 / 9
    British : 29 / 32
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
    Italians : 15 / 30
    ANZAC : 16 / 22
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Major Major]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
                  Russians take Eastern Poland from Italians
            1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
                  Russians take Eastern Poland from Italians
            1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 10 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 10 infantry in Bessarabia, round 1 :  0/11 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 8 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 :  3/9 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 artillery and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Russians attack with 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 1 :  2/10 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 1 :  1/6 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                    Russians roll dice for 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 :  3/9 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians , 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 artilleries owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                    Russians roll dice for 3 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 3 :  3/8 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Baltic States, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 3 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Germans: 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Russia
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
            2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Russia
            7 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia

Place Units - Russians
            1 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            9 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs total

[Antholin]

I’ll be on tonight to post.

[Antholin]

Intercept in India?

J5cm.tsvg

[Major Major]

no intercept.  I better hit something for a change!!!  :-D