2013 - AAG 40 League


  • You’re signed up, Karl
    Glad to hear it, Odonis


  • I just abolished segregation.
    There’s actually no need to specify what tier you’re in.  Just sign up.  Players will be grouped appropriately when the time comes.
    We already have 11, so it’s looking like there will be at least 2 additional playoffs/tournaments, for a total of 3+ different playoff/tourneys at the end of the year!  Should be exciting.


  • OK, figured out how to get notifications every time anyone edits the signup sheet, so I can now assure you that there will be no monkey business without my knowing.  The integrity of the signup sheet is now assured.


  • Buddy of yours in the league hasn’t signed up yet?
    Point it out to him!  Tell him to sign up!  4 league games finished by 10/31/13, and not participating in the league championship playoff (top 8 by win%) and you qualify to be in a tourney!

    Sign up for the year-end league tournaments here:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhOB4pSke42ydF93TUcwNFB2Y1JvYm9weThsdzV0cEE#gid=0

    Players participating will be grouped in tourney brackets by ranking.  Single elimination, maximum of 3 games per player is the commitment.

  • '10

    Ok, i’ll be the 12th player if you still need/want one

  • '19 '18

    How strict are people here when it comes to slow play? Is it considered rude to post “bump” right when the 72 hour mark has been passed? One of my opponents had his last post done 83 hours ago, and I am unsure if I am a cocky douchebag if I give the bump warning now.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    It’s up to the individual players.

    I feel it is good sportsmanship to allow extra time if forewarned of a situation.  I will also hear extenuating circumstances like “I dropped my computer off to be serviced and the service department did not give it back for 14 days.”  Right now is back to school time so the service departments are slammed and not everyone knows how to fix a computer.  (Surprised some people know how to turn on a computer, to be perfectly frank with you!)

    If you want to post a bump at 83 hours, go for it.  72 is the minimum.  If you want to wait for 96 hours you can.  I wouldn’t see it as a jerk move if a bump was posted at 72 hours, 1 minute against me (unless of course I said ‘hey, I’ll be out for the next 4 days, you okay with that?’ and they said ‘yes’)


  • Right.  Some people will have smoke coming out of their ears if they get bumped, but the rule is there for a reason.  If you’re concerned, try sending them a PM first.

    It takes 3 bumps plus one more 72 hour delay to lose a game, so technically 1 bump doesn’t hurt anything and neither does 3, as long as there is no 72 hour delay after that.
    Anyone starting a league game has agreed to the bump rules, knowingly or not, and you are entitled to use them.  But like Jenn said, use discretion and sportsmanship.

    As an example, I currently am giving a break to JapanDOWturn1fan (laptop broken) and Gargantua (new to the league), two games I am enduring long delays on.


  • That said, I assure you that Jenn and I will enforce the bump rules and 72 hour rules to the minute, barring extenuating circumstances (like a post or a PM pleading for more time, with a good reason) or a really good explanation from the bumpee.

    This is because if the rule is not enforced, it may as well not even be there.
    If I were you and this is an unexplained 72 hour absence, I would bump.  If your opponent is upset, you point him to the league rules on page 1 of this thread, and you remind him that it takes (effectively) FOUR bumps to claim a win, etc etc.

  • '13

    @Karl7:

    God will not permit this!  He will not allow me not to fulfill my destiny!

    General George S. Patton…but I forgot where I heard it

  • '19 '18

    Okay guys, thanks for your answers.

    I dont feel so bad now after having bumped my opponent.


  • @MrRoboto:

    Okay guys, thanks for your answers.

    I dont feel so bad now after having bumped my opponent.

    Good.  You shouldn’t.  That’s what the rule’s there for.  :-)

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @UnknownSoldier:

    @Karl7:

    God will not permit this!  He will not allow me not to fulfill my destiny!

    General George S. Patton…but I forgot where I heard it

    The movie, I believe.


  • For all the  guys i am playing with or those who are interested in playing me , I am in Dubrovnik on summer vacation for 7-10 days. I wanted to write this message earlier but the  page was not working. Cheers :)

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15 '14 '12

    @Cmdr:

    @UnknownSoldier:

    @Karl7:

    God will not permit this!�  He will not allow me not to fulfill my destiny!

    General George S. Patton…but I forgot where I heard it

    The movie, I believe.

    correct!  :mrgreen:

  • '19 '13

    @Gamerman01:

    FYI if the playoffs started now or very soon, these are (APPROXIMATELY) who would probably be in them:

    RGP44, 7-0, 1.000, #2
    Alexgreat, 9-0, 1.000, #7
    Allweneedislove, 19-2, .905, #1
    Zhukov, 8-1, .889, #4
    Gamerman01, 21-3, .875, #3
    Arathorn, 6-2, .750, #13
    Hobo, 11-4, .733, #9
    Ziggurat, 16-6, .727, #6

    Nobody can argue this is a good group for the playoffs.
    However, by rankings, these players would be excluded:
    #5 Hank13 (10-4, .714)
    #8 Cow (10-4, .714)

    Note that these players could easily qualify by the end of the year by win% (current rules) but yes if they really wanted to be in the playoffs then they will pick weaker opponents.

    Hank and Cow are ranked #5 and #8 using my system but are not in the top 8 by win % because they play tougher competition.
    Half of Cow’s games were played vs. tier 1.  Only 3 were below tier 2.
    Half of Hank’s games were played vs. tier 1, with very few against below tier 2.

    So there’s the difference between straight win % and a strength of schedule calculation such as my own.
    I think having 3 tournament/playoff at the end of the year that excludes no one but the tier 4’s (I’ll call them apprentices) would alleviate the concerns about the playoff qualification/determination, and include everyone who wants, in the fun.
    Winner of the tier 1 playoff is crowned winner of the league for the year.

    What do you think, Jenn?

    Just wanted to remind Jenn to include the games (I think 4 total) that are legitimate League wins, but that were not counted in Gamerman’s rankings.

  • '17 '16 '15 '14 '12

    Just wondering when the 2014 season starts - is it Jan 1, or Oct sometime?


  • @Cmdr:

    7a - The Regular Season for each league will start on 2 Nov. 2012 and end on 1 Nov. 2012 and the standings will then be posted.  Games must be completed prior to this date in order to be counted for the 2012 season.

    7b - Any games in progress that are completed after this date will be eligible to count for the next league (2013) assuming league rules remain the same or are similar.

    7c - 2013 Playoffs begin Nov 2nd

    November 2
    Although I think it would be a good idea to make next year a 14 month year so that it ends 12/31/14, and then ever after it can go with the calendar year, for simplicity.
    We will have at least 3 playoffs of 8 people each starting in November, so there won’t be as many regular season games being played in November/December anyway.
    What do you think about phasing out the fiscal year, Jenn?  Fix it by having a 14 month year once?  I don’t know how many times people have had to ask when the league year starts and ends.  A lot of confusion could be averted with a 1/1 - 12/31 year

  • '16

    @Gamerman01:

    Although I think it would be a good idea to make next year a 14 month year so that it ends 12/31/14, and then ever after it can go with the calendar year, for simplicity.
    We will have at least 3 playoffs of 8 people each starting in November, so there won’t be as many regular season games being played in November/December anyway.
    What do you think about phasing out the fiscal year, Jenn?  Fix it by having a 14 month year once?  I don’t know how many times people have had to ask when the league year starts and ends.  A lot of confusion could be averted with a 1/1 - 12/31 year

    Wouldn’t that make the playoffs start in 2015 for the 2014 season?

    I like to see the playoffs attempt to end in the same year as the season.  Personally, I’d run the regular season to end in Sept, to give an extra month for the playoff brackets.


  • @Gamerman01:

    We will have at least 3 playoffs of 8 people each starting in November, so there won’t be as many regular season games being played in November/December anyway.

    What about allowing the playoff games to also count for next year’s league, if both players agree?

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