2013 - AAG 40 League

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Infrastructure:

    Jenn,  give tripleA a chance, once you learn its idiosyncrisies, I swear it is 11 times better.

    I’ve been giving them a chance since 1.2.  They’ve had chances, I even gave mapview a chance, but honestly, I always come back to battlemap because it’s quick, light, doesn’t require any processing power, it runs on every platform imaginable, it never crashes and it’s got everything I need in one convenient place.  Heck, you can even edit the map and put your own charts on, it’s just a bmp file!

    The only thing battlemap cant do that tripleA can, when it comes to playing human vs human, is roll the dice.  But Djensen gave us a dice server specifically to handle that one minor detail!

    Hell, I usually force my game group at home to use battlemap since it saves the hassle of setting up and putting away the board! lol.  (Although Jim and David are both itching to freaking use the pretty TripleA since it also means we don’t have to take out my dice.  Not that I don’t own 48d6 dice of various colors so you can call a color for different units and roll them all at once…or deal with those massive infantry stacks!)

  • '12

    jen, you can play 5 games a year on battlemap if you can find someone to play with you - or play yourself.  if you want any significant play, i’m going to step out on a limb and say you better get used to tripleA.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Boldfresh:

    jen, you can play 5 games a year on battlemap if you can find someone to play with you - or play yourself.  if you want any significant play, i’m going to step out on a limb and say you better get used to tripleA.

    Not a very dangerous limb.  I know, the prettiness finally beat out the functionality.  However, I don’t have to like it!


  • Added 6b to the list  :-(

    Noticed in a game today that when Triple A (properly) has aircraft fire separately in a fleet battle involving subs because they cannot hit subs, it unfortunately (improperly) requires a casualty choice prematurely.

    Yet another reason to roll (fleet battles involving submarines) outside of Triple A  :-(

    Assuming Infrastructure didn’t, I will now send this list to Veqryn…

    Triple A problems.doc

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15 '14 '12

    Question:

    Is DS Kelly’s calc reliable?  Or is the one built into tripple a better?

    Just lost huge battle that DS Kelly said was 98%.

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15 '14 '12

    Never mind.  Issue was resolved.  The calcs are similar in their results if you actually apply the SAME number of units…  :lol:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Karl7:

    Question:

    Is DS Kelly’s calc reliable?   Or is the one built into tripple a better?

    Just lost huge battle that DS Kelly said was 98%.

    Don’t be DISSIN my DS Kelly!  I’ve relied on that for AGES and still do.  I don’t trust TripleA, it’s too PRETTY!

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    As for issues in regards to league:

    You can alter your CMs to your heart’s content UNTIL you ask for scrambles or OOLs.  Once the defender has committed (and before dice are rolled) you are committed.
    If you start rolling dice and forget a CM or want to change a CM you are SOL.  The die is cast (pun intended) and you are committed.
    Now you can finish your combats and do your NCM.
    Your NCM is committed when you post your build order.  Until then, you can still alter it.
    Your build order is committed when you post your income.

    Note:  Illegal moves can only be changed up until the start of the next turn.  Once you start throwing dice, the mistakes of your opponent are committed, you have in essence - agreed to accept the illegal move.  This is only to prevent issues like saying “wait, how did you get your transport there, you moved 3 spaces without a naval base 7 rounds ago!  We have to fix it…” etc.  I feel this is an issue that does more damage than just allowing the mistake.  We’re going to assume mistakes are MISTAKES not efforts to cheat.  Of course, if a pattern of this behavior becomes evident, then you should report it to myself or DarthMaximus (g’luck, he’s on vacation!  I’ve yet to hear of him returning, so…it’s me or nothing for now!)

    If YOU, as the contestants in the game in question, decide to allow a correction, then YOU are stuck with it.  I admit that I will almost always allow an opponent to fix something like forgetting to annex a friendly neutral or walk into an undefended territory if they forget.  Failing to realize I had another airbase and can scramble 6 fighters and the odds are HORRIBLY against you now, I probably won’t (unless you agree to give me a mulligan. lol.)  Of course, as the attacker you have the option to retreat after the first round, so you’ve got quite a bit of advantage anyway.  Mistakes, after all, can be attributed to the “fog of war” no?


  • @Gamerman01:

    Here’s the list and I probably left something out, believe it or not.
    I have raised all of these issues with Veqryn in the past 5 months.  He says all of them are considered and/or on his to do list, but no promises on how soon he’ll get to some of them, and we do not agree about the level of importance of some of these issues.

    Triplea will convoy China’s money.


  • Added it as soon as I saw it in the FAQ!
    Already went back and saw that I lost 11 IPC’s as China in a game recently completed.  Allweneedislove apparently was unaware of this rule as well.

    Updated list attached.  Panther said he reported it.

    Triple A problems.doc

  • '12

    i just noticed something in our game seth - the harbor in calcutta is bombed to 6 damage.  in the UK London purchase phase, it asks if i want to repair the harbor out of UK London’s money.  Is London allowed to repair facilities owned by UK pacific?


  • I’m pretty sure that they’re supposed to be completely separate economies and I don’t think you can do so. I think the problem lies in the triplea programming where it reverts every piece put down by UK Pac as just UK so that you can move all the Brits at once. I could be wrong though, but I’m like 95% sure that you can’t use the UK Euro cash to repair the India stuff.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Gamerman01:

    Added it as soon as I saw it in the FAQ!
    Already went back and saw that I lost 11 IPC’s as China in a game recently completed.  Allweneedislove apparently was unaware of this rule as well.

    Updated list attached.  Panther said he reported it.

    Again, none of these problems exist if you use Battlemap!  :P


  • Right, London can not pay for anything that is UK Pacific’s, even when India is down.

  • '12

    Add it to the tripleA list?  :?


  • Oh, right
    It has unstoppable momentum anyway


  • I don`t know what have the moderators planned for the playoffs but i have one suggestion.

    Let`s say Gamer and Jen are the opponents in the first round of the playoffs. They would be starting two games at the same time (with switched sides). So U play one as axis, one as allies. Then if somebody wins both he passes on. If it finishes 1-1, then a third game to decide, this how we get more interesting games, see how a player deals with both sides, and we avoid loosing a champ on some silly mistake in one game.

    What do U think?


  • We could also make one advantage for the higher ranked players like in NBA/NHL.

    If it comes to third game, then the higher ranking player could have the opportunity to take emidiately the Allies with an average bid of the so far playoffs, without having to bid. Just an idea. Cheers :)


  • @Amon-Sul:

    We could also make one advantage for the higher ranked players like in NBA/NHL.

    If it comes to third game, then the higher ranking player could have the opportunity to take emidiately the Allies with an average bid of the so far playoffs, without having to bid. Just an idea. Cheers :)

    Or to take Axis with an average bid of the so far playoffs for Allies.

  • '22 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15 '14 '12

    Has anyone ever checked the Marti Dice server that its actually spewing out random dice?

    Is there even a way to do it?

    After 40+ games this league, I’m picking up strange patterns in the dice, like subs on defense hitting way more than they should, among others.

    There just seems to way to many extreme results than my experience says there should be.

    AND, I say this as someone whose had it go for me and against me!

    If someone could check it, it would relieve my suspicion.

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