2013 - AAG 40 League

[hobo]

not much, haven’t even tried a real game with tripleA  :lol:

looks interesting though

[boldfresh]

hobo, if you can do tripleA i will take you on.

[Jennifer]

@variance:

If we’re supposed to place bid units only in territories that already have a unit of the same power in it, then how come I hear that some people put an ANZAC infantry in New Guinea?  Is it legal to do that?

Per rules on page 1/page 2:
Units bid must be placed in a zone you control at the start of your turn, or in a sea zone that already contains units you control.

Therefore, ANZAC could place units in New Guinea since they control the zone at the start of their turn; but could not place them in Malaya since that is a British territory (even though they have a unit present there.)

Likewise, France could place an Aircraft Carrier and 2 fighters in SZ 112 AND England could place an Aircraft Carrier and 2 fighters in SZ 112 since both powers have a naval unit in that zone at the start of the game already.

[Jennifer]

@DizzKneeLand33:

What my official ruling would be (so take it for what it’s worth):

The attacker rolls the dice in TripleA PBF format.  Period.  Always.  End of story.  It really is that simple.  Any other rolls are null and void.

If you want my advise on the matter, the commonly accepted rules on this game forum (and it will be included for the 2014 league rules for clarification) is that the attacker rolls all dice (both attacking dice and defending dice) and follows a common “Order of Loss” or “OOL.”

This generally works for everyone except in a few cases.  If the dice are going to be close, it is wise to ask the defender for his “OOL” prior to rolling the first set of dice and then again for each round thereafter if the numbers stay close. There are a few battle calculators out there you can use.

Some examples of when OOL might be needed. 
A) Allies drop a fleet of bombers in Russia the round before they think an attack will occur.  Do they really want the bombers taken as casualties last, or did they want them first, or did they want them after infantry died?  ASK!
B) Japan attacks an allied fleet.  Did they want to sink carriers or damage them?  Did they want to lose planes or cruisers/destroyers?  If the attack is close, they might want to lose a tactical bomber before they damage an aircraft carrier since planes cannot land on damaged carriers (and yes, some of us are real jerks, we’ll pull an attack that is winning just to watch all those zoomie pilots splash into the drink and come back for another round laters. :P)

Just two examples.  Usually you can assume: AA Guns, Infantry, Artillery, Mechanized Infantry (attacker can swap out if either of those units still exist after the battle), Armor, Tactical Bombers, Fighters  and Damage Battleships, Damage Carriers (if valid landing zone exists for planes), Submarines, Destroyers, Cruisers, Tactical Bombers, Sink Carriers, Fighters, Sink Battleships.  (why yes, there are some ground units missing…why?  Because I never assume anything when I attack a strategic bomber!)

[Jennifer]

@Gamerman01:

Your opponents

Did you see the wink?

Lastly, back from an unscheduled, extended, personal issue.  Thank you Gamerman for picking up the slack and helping out.

Oh, and I always see the winks!  It may take a month for me to catch them, but I always see the winks!

Good luck and happy hunting!

[wheatbeer]

Cmdr Jennifer,

Is there any chance the G40 league playoffs will be amended to include more than 2 players given the volume of activity this season?

[Jennifer]

I was once told that there was a 1% chance of anything happening in life.  However, I would say there is probably more than a 1% chance I will amend the rules to have a full playoffs season of at least the top 4 players.

[gamerman01]

If you amend for that, please also consider upping the 4 game minimum to get in
I think it was 8 in AA50 last year - just a reference point

[variance]

Can you spend your bid on infantry in pro-allies neutral territories or Dutch territories?

[variance]

or Mongolians?

[boldfresh]

@variance:

or Mongolians?

variance, you are funny…  :lol:

[variance]

Hey ya never know

[variance]

seriously though, would it be legal to put some Dutch infantry in Java?

[gamerman01]

There is no such thing as Dutch infantry.  They don’t come with the game.

Seriously, Jenn will have to give you the answer.

[Jennifer]

No, variance.  Mongolia is neutral, not an allied nation for start, for another, it isn’t allied controlled at the start of the game.

Likewise, there are, to my knowledge, no Dutch pieces…so, uhm, yea.  No army to bid with and no capitol for Holland to hold IPC to buy an army with either.

The British do not control Dutch territories (rationale: they cannot collect IPC for them until they take over the local governments) either at the start of the game, so they could not bid units there either.

[variance]

Ok thank you.

[wheatbeer]

I would let you do it Vance  :-D … But I guess it’ll have to be a non-league match (or covert).

I can see a rationale for bidding pro-Allied neutrals into Persia.

[Jennifer]

I can as well, but I do not think it is fair to allow that kind of change at this point in the league.  Perhaps next year.

[variance]

Yeah a couple extra Russians in Persia could make the Iraq thing cost effective against a slow Germany but oh well.  Not many do slow Germany anymore so whatever.

Jenn, do you and Gamerman have any plans for changes to bid rules for next year?  Like allowing bids to be spent on infantry in pro-allied neutrals?  Or how about putting a limit of 1 unit per territory?  Bids need to be higher than they are but we are sort of capped around 12 because certain key points can be stacked (e.g. Yunnan with 4 extra infantry plus 2 Soviet planes turns into 20 infantry plus plane(s) holding Burma road forever).  Without that stacking potential bids could be higher but more dispersed around the board.

[gamerman01]

Variance, I do not have any authority in setting league rules or parameters
I’m just a regular, experienced player who is allowed to post a rankings spreadsheet because the moderators let me