Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 1 armour moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vyborg 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from France to Norway 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Norway 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Russians scrambles 2 units out of 128 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Norway Battle in Norway Germans attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 57 Casualties for Germans: 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 11 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Leningrad 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Norway to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 5 infantry placed in Germany 2 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 1. 3 fighters placed in France 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 3. 2 fighters placed in France 1 fighter placed in Western Germany 2 destroyers placed in 116 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,1,6,5,2,3,6,4,3,4,5,4,1,4 Germans collect 54 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs2013 - AAG 40 League
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Eggman -
Pretty sure it’s implied that you can’t put down impossible units for a bid.
Chinese artillery is permissable, though, especially because the Burma road is open at game start -
Pretty sure it’s implied that you can’t put down impossible units for a bid.
I’m sure most people would agree it’s
obvious, but I don’t see anything in writing that would prohibit it (implied or otherwise), so somebody could certainly choose to be a stickler about it if they wanted. Always better to make it explicit if it’s really going to be a rule. -
Well, Jenn’s not exactly the type to write an air-tight set of rules. Take it up with her.
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The league rules need to be adjusted to keep up with the times. 1 unit per territory, come on.
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@Cow:
The league rules need to be adjusted to keep up with the times. 1 unit per territory, come on.
for once cow and i are in agreement :-o
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@Cow:
The league rules need to be adjusted to keep up with the times. 1 unit per territory, come on.
for once cow and i are in agreement  :-o
I’d put my third to this.
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Well, you could always agree with your opponent before you start bidding, and then it will be the rule for you.
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@Cow:
The league rules need to be adjusted to keep up with the times. 1 unit per territory, come on.
I agree 1 unit per territory is best, though so far it hasn’t been an issue.
There was a moment in AA50 competition when I agreed to a 12 bid vrs. Dutchman (I figured I didn’t want to be Allies against him) and he put 4 inf on Egy! Gulp. Fortunately the dice saved me in that one.
It’s not clear yet if bidding several units per territory is a problem but I can see Alexandria or Yunnan stack bids potentially becoming issues when you have 10+ bids.
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So bid them lower
After all, if you win the bid you can do the same thing. Fair for everyone -
It’s not clear yet if bidding several units per territory is a problem but I can see Alexandria or Yunnan stack bids potentially becoming issues when you have 10+ bids.
I could probably be convinced either way. The Europe map is balanced enough that the limit feels fair, but the Pacific map is so out of whack that you need to allow it, otherwise the same amount of bid won’t be as effective.
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So bid them lower
After all, if you win the bid you can do the same thing. Fair for everyoneYeah I’m just used to the 1 unit limit and many TripleA players have the same habituation and likely the same resultant bias.
On the other hand, we have plenty of time to react and think in this format. In addition, 3 inf to Yunnan or Alexandria might be fine when we consider that strengthening either China or UK Egypt could add to historical realism.
The worry is that if the 3 inf to Yunnan is superior to other 9 bids, it could potentially lead to a rut where the first person to bid 9 always gets Allies. But I’ve never encountered this bid so I can’t comment on how good it is.
I’m guessing that the original justification for the 1 bid per territory limit was likely to facilitate better live games, where the bid doesn’t change the game so much that the Axis player has to think for 20 minutes about how to react to the bid.
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had a brainfart in my 3rd paragraph above
it could potentially lead to a rut where the first person to bid 9 always gets Allies
What I meant to say is…it potentially leads to a rut where either one person gets 9 and is perceived to have the advantage, or the other gets 8 and is perceived to have the disadvantage.
That is pure speculation of course, since it’s unproven whether 3 inf to Yunnan is superior to other 9 bids or would be much better than a destroyer bid somewhere important.
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I do not believe in china bids, they have limited buys to begin with.
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No China bid is another entire issue in which I know i am in the minority.
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@Cow:
No China bid is another entire issue in which I know i am in the minority.
The Pacific map is so unbalanced in Japan’s favor it surprises me that anything the Allies can do there with a bid would be considered too
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The pacific is fine. I played plenty of pacific 1940 alone. It is fine.
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@Cow:
The pacific is fine. I played plenty of pacific 1940 alone. It is fine.
i agree with cow again. a sure sign of the apocalypse.
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Either of you two check out the Pac40 forum? Apparently there is a sure win strategy for Japan to take out the US.
Even Krieghund was stumped.
:-P
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@Cow:
The pacific is fine. I played plenty of pacific 1940 alone. It is fine.
i agree with cow again. a sure sign of the apocalypse.
Karl has basically beaten me to it, but yes- if anyone sharing that opinion cares to back it up, then I cordially invite you to challenge vonLettowVorbeck1914 to a Pacific
40 game where you play the Allies with no bid. If you then want to come out and saywell, it really is fine, then you just need a bid`, then you still proved the point that the Pacific is still unbalanced, a problem made worse by the nerfing of the USA in the Global version. The current Allied bids are too low to support splitting it between Europe and the Pacific in order to cover the problems on the Pacific map. -
Either of you two check out the Pac40 forum? Apparently there is a sure win strategy for Japan to take out the US.
Even Krieghund was stumped.
The flaw of USA starting with only 17 ipc a turn. Yes it can get owned.
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