T03 - Ksmckay vs Soundcrescent (Allies +8)

[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.4

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 bombers and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
                  Japanese take Evenki National Okrug from Russians
            6 armour moved from Ningxia to Novosibirsk
                  Japanese take Chinghai from Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Sikang to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from India to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from India to Persia
                  Japanese take Persia from British

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Japanese attack with 7 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Russians defend with 7 infantry
                retreated to Novosibirsk
                Russians win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
                Casualties for Japanese: 7 armour
                Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 infantry moved from Sikang to Ningxia
            2 armour moved from Manchuria to Ningxia
            1 armour moved from Manchuria to Ningxia
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 61 Sea Zone to Fukien
            1 fighter moved from East Indies to 35 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from East Indies to 38 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 38 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to India
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Madagascar to 32 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to India
            1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to India
            1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Ningxia
            1 carrier moved from 60 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from New Guinea to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Italy
            1 bomber moved from Japan to India

Place Units - Japanese
            3 armour placed in Manchuria
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in East Indies
            2 bombers placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs total
            Objective 2: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Objective 3: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Objective 1: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs

[soundcrescent]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.4

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to 12 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to Belgian Congo
            1 bomber moved from Morocco Algeria to Belgian Congo
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland
            2 fighters moved from 5 Sea Zone to Poland
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Northwestern Europe
            1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 7 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe

Combat - British
            Battle in Belgian Congo
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Belgian Congo, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belgian Congo
                British win, taking Belgian Congo from Germans with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
            Battle in Northwestern Europe
                British attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Northwestern Europe, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northwestern Europe
                British win, taking Northwestern Europe from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Poland
                British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Poland, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Poland, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland
                British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from Poland to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to 7 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Belgian Congo to French West Africa
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 5 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 12 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya

Place Units - British
            1 fighter placed in 7 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs total

Territory Summary for British :

Australia : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Belgian Congo : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 infantry
    French West Africa : 1 flag, 1 bomber
    Libya : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Morocco Algeria : 1 flag
    Northwestern Europe : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory and 6 infantry
    7 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 transports
    23 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 26 / 36
    Russians : 30 / 31
    Japanese : 50 / 65
    British : 23 / 23
    Italians : 10 / 15
    Chinese : 0 / 0
    Americans : 39 / 44

[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.4

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Northwestern Europe
            1 fighter moved from Italy to Northwestern Europe

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Northwestern Europe
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Italians win, taking Northwestern Europe from British with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to Italy
            1 artillery moved from Italy to France
            1 infantry moved from Italian Africa to Rhodesia
            1 battleship moved from 34 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            5 infantry placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

[soundcrescent]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.4

Game History

Round :5

Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Libya to Northwestern Europe
            1 fighter moved from Morocco Algeria to Northwestern Europe
            1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe
            2 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to 12 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 12 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
                  British take Trans-Jordan from Italians
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
                  British take Anglo-Egypt Sudan from Germans
            1 armour moved from Anglo-Egypt Sudan to Egypt

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Northwestern Europe
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 1 :  3/5 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians , 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northwestern Europe
                Americans win, taking Northwestern Europe from Germans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Northwestern Europe to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to 12 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to 7 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 12 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 12 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 12 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 46 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Morocco Algeria to Egypt
            1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
            3 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to Western Canada
            4 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada

Place Units - Americans
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 10 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 armour placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total
            Objective 3: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Eastern Canada : 1 flag, 2 armour and 5 infantry
    Eastern United States : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 10 infantry
    Egypt : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 6 infantry
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Libya : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 8 infantry
    Morocco Algeria : 1 flag, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Northwestern Europe : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 flag, 1 bomber
    Wake Island : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Western Canada : 1 flag, 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    Western United States : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 factory
    7 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport
    10 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 3 transports
    12 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 3 transports
    17 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer
    51 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 25 / 36
    Russians : 30 / 31
    Japanese : 50 / 65
    British : 23 / 23
    Italians : 9 / 10
    Chinese : 0 / 0
    Americans : 41 / 46

[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.4

Game History

Round :6

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe
            2 fighters moved from Germany to East Poland
            5 armour, 1 bomber and 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to East Poland
            4 armour moved from Czechoslovakia Hungary to East Poland
            1 fighter moved from France to East Poland
            3 fighters moved from Italy to East Poland

Combat - Germans
            Battle in East Poland
                Germans attack with 9 armour, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry
                retreated to East Poland
                Russians win with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -98
                Casualties for Germans: 9 armour, 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry
            Battle in Northwestern Europe
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Northwestern Europe from Americans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 fighter moved from East Poland to Germany
            2 infantry moved from Germany to France

Place Units - Germans
            3 armour and 7 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs total
            Objective 1: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 32 PUs

[ksmckay]

Guess your complaining worked out well for you as thats now three battles in a row where axis were absolutely ravaged.  Now what do you put your odds at winning at.

Second round was a mistake borne out of frustration but they all would have died anyway.

[ksmckay]

There is no point in continuing.

I resign.  Good game.

[soundcrescent]

It is true that in the last three battles you were unlucky. But I want to be frank with you and say what I really think.
You built too many armors and planes. You attacked often only with armors; doing so casualties are costly from the beginning. It is advisable to have some infantries to be selected as first casualties.
Your tactic was hazardous throughout the war. You engaged battles too risky.
I list some of them. In Persia you should have not been able to place any unit there and risked planes by the AA. In Eastern Ukraina and Chinghiai round 4 was very risky too but partially worked out. Ukraine round 5 was very risky, and this time was not successful. Novosibirks and now East Poland were not sensible attacks at all: you put at stake you tanks and planes and even if dices had been good in the counter attack  Russians would have slaughter your remaining tanks and probably get the bonus in Bulgaria as well.
Japan was a turn ahead Americans: you could have threaten Russia from Chinghiai an Persia gaining position round by round instead of attacking at all cost.
Tokio must not stop producing land troops to desembark in China or Russia, why the bombers?
I agree with the fact of defending France and Italy, but you destined too many units there. For sure Japan fighters were not necessary. Maybe I am saying this because I am more prudent when attacking. I consider for example that attacking Italy with Americans means to stop the train from Canada and riskying the fleet.
Last, you should have been able to hold Egypt at least one more round building more transports and threathening it with fighters sleeping in Europe.
It was a good war, but those were the things that gave me hopes of winning apart from good dices in the end. Anyway, I told you it was not a sensible attack in East Poland, but if you retreated after the first round of dices you could have been still in the game.
I made one little mistake in the game, I left the Russian army in Ukraine in round 2 hoping to hold it and to kill the German infantries with the English who were about to be slaughtered in Persia.
I’d like to know your idea about my considerations.
Thanks for the game

[ksmckay]

1.  Built too many armor and planes
Germany was making 45 or so a turn.  The only way they could spend that was to buy more arm and planes which are certainly useful, particularly in Anniversary.  Armor gives me added mobility, planes give great flexibilty and allow me to threaten sea zones.  I could have built a factory in France which is the only intelligent choice with a KGF but I expected you to bomb me and expected you to deny my Germany east europe NO much quicker in which case the factory would have been a waste.  Cant really walk infantry from Germany through poland as UK can crush them.

2.  Persia - You had 6 land units and a bomber in range.  If I land in India you take it back with good odds and if not russians can clean it up or you can take TrJ and I dont have italian resources to get it back.  I hit it risking a plane sure but banking on taking out a few units and then retreating the air to TrJ protecting TrJ and hopefully India.  I would do that battle every time.  If you had put a single russian inf there I wouldnt have done it but you didnt so I took advantage.

3. Ukr attack  3 arm, 3 ftr, and a bomber vs 3 inf 1 art.  Fantastic odds, normal dice I lose 2 armor and then I get the NO and keep the russians back as they cant even threaten Bulg cuz armor cant reach and I can stack Poland instead.  Worst case is I lose 3 armor but clear it.  Instead you hit 4 for 4.  Cant plan strat around that or good luck attacking anything.  Dice happens whatever.

4. Nov attack.  7 arm 2 planes vs 7 inf.  Again outstanding odds.  If that battle goes remotely normal I stay one round take out 3 or 4 inf in exchange for 2 or 3 armor and then retreat into Chinghai and can stack Chinghai safely now that you dont have a huge supply of units able to counter with only limited backup on my part in china.  Again I would do that battle everytime.  Instead you hit 7 for 11 on 2’s and I way underhit.  Also, I missed the Russian bomber buy and didnt think you could take out that transport, that left Egypt safe.

5. EPl attack.  After the Nov attack my position looked terrible in Asia.  I wasnt going to be able to advance again and Russia was going to start making their big NO and the allies were going to be able to continue to funnel units into Egypt.  If I dont attack then Russia can take its NO for the rest of the game.  Attacking and then retreating or winning at the cost of a few planes means you cant get your NO again and possibly not for several more turns giving Japanese time to come back.  Again another attack that in the same situation I would make every time.

Knowing that you play so passively I probably could have played things a little differently but particularly since I was ahead I felt you needed to be more agressive and in your position I would have been.

Even mildly unlucky dice in those battles was fine with me.  I wasnt planning on awesome results.  But Those results were beyond bad luck.  I massively underhit in everyone and you hit at a ridiculously high rate.  I had probalby 99% odds in both the first two battles and 86 in the second and instead I ended up trading 19 arm 5 ftrs and 2 bombers for 11 infantry.

Dice happens but I have zero regrets about my play.

[soundcrescent]

It was a tough match and you are a very strong opponent. It is nice to hear your opinion about it which is very interesting. I told you did not commit big mistakes, but in the whole war I did not understand some of your choices you now explained.
I see dices were awful in the end, but we are talking about tactics now.
I am saying that if they were average or a bit above, you would have not gained big advantage from those battles. On the contrary, a bad result was compromising.
A factory can be built in Bulgaria or Prague only if Germany is in a very good position, but Poland should have been controlled longer then you did using the troops you destined to France.
Besides, also Japan built too many armors and planes.
Instead of attacking Persia, I would have defended trj landing fighters there and attack Australia. Or you could have put 6 troops in India leaving the English to be slaughtered in the next round for good with a counter attack in case of success of the English (I would have not probably engaged battle because the bomber could have landed only in Persia and odds were not so good).

If that battle goes remotely normal I stay one round take out 3 or 4 inf in exchange for 2 or 3 armor

You swap 3-4 infantry for 2-3 armors, not a big deal…
In East Poland, even if you were able to leave a couple of armors, you were about to be counter attacked and in Bulgaria (Urss big NO) you could have left only planes . Such a move can be done only as a last chance.
That transort should have been preserved at least with Italians fleet;
I did not mention that I saved maybe the match in Ukraine with that attack hit and run by Russians in round 3. Had it been unlucky, I would have lost Caucasus.
Where should I have been more aggressive?
Tell me one time you thought: “Fortunately he did not do this!”