I went when I was really young. I think I mainly visited resorts and amusement parks.
Turkey
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vatican hosts the pope
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I think the Swiss were stupid not to join the EU.
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Les autorités turques ont aboli la peine de mort, levé l’interdiction qui frappait les langues non turques, et permis, dans une certaine mesure, l’enseignement du kurde. Elles ont supprimé l’état d’urgence dans certaines provinces. Aujourd’hui, les Quinze insistent sur l’élimination totale de la torture, sur la libération de tous les prisonniers pour délit d’opinion, enfin sur une stricte séparation entre le pouvoir civil et l’armée.
- LE MONDE, 08.11.02
… and it’s a good thing. Now it’s the US turn to abolish capital punishment (and i don’t think it’s for tomorrow) :) .
You know FinsterniS, i’m sure you could well have found an English version for this forum. I think you, myself, and maybe 2-3 others understood this post (and that more than simply abolishment of the death penalty was inacted, but so were other rights including release of political prisoners, freedom from torture, and separation between the government and the military).
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Les autorités turques ont aboli la peine de mort, levé l’interdiction qui frappait les langues non turques, et permis, dans une certaine mesure, l’enseignement du kurde. Elles ont supprimé l’état d’urgence dans certaines provinces. Aujourd’hui, les Quinze insistent sur l’élimination totale de la torture, sur la libération de tous les prisonniers pour délit d’opinion, enfin sur une stricte séparation entre le pouvoir civil et l’armée.
Heh… no need for a superiority complex… :roll:
We should try to trade the Uk for Norway
Why trade when you could have both? :-?
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Well, the UK doesn’t have to adopt the Euro, does it? The pound is a very strong currency. BTW, I still have some old European coins such as pounds, German pounds, and a ton of Austrian marks (I think they’re called marks). I’m collecting them. Anyone willing to send over some of their country’s old defunct currency?
German Marks and Austrian Schillings…
And the pound is not that strong. As well, you can bet the UK is very eager to join the Euro once the Pound drops in value compared to the Euro: they would make a better deal then. -
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but Italy?
Italy seems not to be one of the most stable and most democratic democracies. Look what Berlusconi has done: to drop the trials against him and his fellow supporters, he changed laws. He made some things not a crime anymore, allowed to change the judges if they are “not neutral”.
And in the country that still is fighting against hte Mafia, he cut the money for bodyguards for the against-mafia-investigating lawyers. One of them was shot the day after his bodyguards had to quit…… -
Italy seems not to be one of the most stable and most democratic democracies.
Saying Italy is’nt on of the most stable country is an euphemism. When someone get shot in italy they have the choice, it could be a communist, an anarchist, a right-wing extremist, mafia…
Still a very beautiful country, they just lack a little unity
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Okay… no Italy bashing now… :-?
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former italyn prime minister covicted of murder
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Italy seems not to be one of the most stable and most democratic democracies.
Saying Italy is’nt on of the most stable country is an euphemism. When someone get shot in italy they have the choice, it could be a communist, an anarchist, a right-wing extremist, mafia…
Still a very beautiful country, they just lack a little unity
And they sure can cook! The only problem is that they can’t fight for their lives. Them and the French.
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I spent a month in Italy, during the G8 Conference protests (I stayed outside Genoa at the time).
I find Italians very nice and cheery. The countryside was beautiful. However, damn Genoa felt like a warzone. Very riotous. The policemen, throughout the country, carry small semi-automatic Uzi lookalikes. In Venice, you’d find squads of policemen with these, some even sporting bigger weapons.
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What is the point of that sort of protest? You just drain more money from the state in protection… :-?
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You get to play 70s punk rebellion songs :)
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That American garbage!? Burn! Burn! :P
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No, the British stuff :)
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I spent a month in Italy, during the G8 Conference protests (I stayed outside Genoa at the time).
I find Italians very nice and cheery. The countryside was beautiful. However, damn Genoa felt like a warzone. Very riotous. The policemen, throughout the country, carry small semi-automatic Uzi lookalikes. In Venice, you’d find squads of policemen with these, some even sporting bigger weapons.
I dooubt they were Uzis, those are obsolete.
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uzis are the wons with the realy short barrals right?
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uzis are the wons with the realy short barrals right?
Uzis are the one with the crappy security.
You can … ist called “secure” …them, so that they should not be able to shoot unless you pull that “lever” again…
and still, if you drop to the ground you can be sure that something like three shots will go off.
Dangerous “toy”. -
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