• @F_alk:

    @FinsterniS:

    I agree, but the UK does’nt even want the Euro, i doupt they will agree to centralization, it’s not in their nature.

    The UK should really rethink wether they want to stay in the EU…

    the US wasnt in the league of nations


  • Well, the UK doesn’t have to adopt the Euro, does it? The pound is a very strong currency. BTW, I still have some old European coins such as pounds, German pounds, and a ton of Austrian marks (I think they’re called marks). I’m collecting them. Anyone willing to send over some of their country’s old defunct currency?


  • I think that if the UK does adopt the euro the euro value should go up averaging the pound and the euro


  • AFAIR it is still in their laws, they just don’t execute it anymore…
    but i could be wrong here-

    Les autorités turques ont aboli la peine de mort, levé l’interdiction qui frappait les langues non turques, et permis, dans une certaine mesure, l’enseignement du kurde. Elles ont supprimé l’état d’urgence dans certaines provinces. Aujourd’hui, les Quinze insistent sur l’élimination totale de la torture, sur la libération de tous les prisonniers pour délit d’opinion, enfin sur une stricte séparation entre le pouvoir civil et l’armée.

    • LE MONDE, 08.11.02

    … and it’s a good thing. Now it’s the US turn to abolish capital punishment (and i don’t think it’s for tomorrow) :)

    The UK should really rethink wether they want to stay in the EU…

    Right ! They don’t seem to be very interested in EU’s institution. Of the 4 titans of the EU, only France and Germany get really involve, UK lack interest and Italy lack unity.

    We should try to trade the Uk for Norway :)

    Well, the UK doesn’t have to adopt the Euro, does it? The pound is a very strong currency.

    No they did’nt, like Denmark and Sweden… and the pound is’nt so strong. Don’t forget that even if the value of ONE POUND is high, this does’nt mean it’s strong, it depend on how much pound there is in the economy. 1 jordanian dinar is worth more than 1 american dollar, but the dinar is not a very strong device…


  • …or bulgaria


  • you can’t trade the UK! They saved Europe’s ass in World War 1 and in World War 2. Give the Brits a break.


  • but Italy?


  • They have the Pope, I doubt that the Pope and his supporters would be too happy if they were booted from the EU. BTW, do the Swiss want to join, yet?


  • you can’t trade the UK! They saved Europe’s ass in World War 1 and in World War 2. Give the Brits a break.

    hey wow, i like the UK, but we never know if they want or not to be european.


  • vatican hosts the pope


  • I think the Swiss were stupid not to join the EU.


  • @FinsterniS:

    Les autorités turques ont aboli la peine de mort, levé l’interdiction qui frappait les langues non turques, et permis, dans une certaine mesure, l’enseignement du kurde. Elles ont supprimé l’état d’urgence dans certaines provinces. Aujourd’hui, les Quinze insistent sur l’élimination totale de la torture, sur la libération de tous les prisonniers pour délit d’opinion, enfin sur une stricte séparation entre le pouvoir civil et l’armée.

    • LE MONDE, 08.11.02

    … and it’s a good thing. Now it’s the US turn to abolish capital punishment (and i don’t think it’s for tomorrow) :) .

    You know FinsterniS, i’m sure you could well have found an English version for this forum. I think you, myself, and maybe 2-3 others understood this post (and that more than simply abolishment of the death penalty was inacted, but so were other rights including release of political prisoners, freedom from torture, and separation between the government and the military).


  • Les autorités turques ont aboli la peine de mort, levé l’interdiction qui frappait les langues non turques, et permis, dans une certaine mesure, l’enseignement du kurde. Elles ont supprimé l’état d’urgence dans certaines provinces. Aujourd’hui, les Quinze insistent sur l’élimination totale de la torture, sur la libération de tous les prisonniers pour délit d’opinion, enfin sur une stricte séparation entre le pouvoir civil et l’armée.

    Heh… no need for a superiority complex… :roll:

    We should try to trade the Uk for Norway

    Why trade when you could have both? :-?


  • @EmuGod:

    Well, the UK doesn’t have to adopt the Euro, does it? The pound is a very strong currency. BTW, I still have some old European coins such as pounds, German pounds, and a ton of Austrian marks (I think they’re called marks). I’m collecting them. Anyone willing to send over some of their country’s old defunct currency?

    German Marks and Austrian Schillings…
    And the pound is not that strong. As well, you can bet the UK is very eager to join the Euro once the Pound drops in value compared to the Euro: they would make a better deal then.


  • @FinsterniS:

    We should try to trade the Uk for Norway :)

    No whale hunters, please !


  • @GeZe:

    but Italy?

    Italy seems not to be one of the most stable and most democratic democracies. Look what Berlusconi has done: to drop the trials against him and his fellow supporters, he changed laws. He made some things not a crime anymore, allowed to change the judges if they are “not neutral”.
    And in the country that still is fighting against hte Mafia, he cut the money for bodyguards for the against-mafia-investigating lawyers. One of them was shot the day after his bodyguards had to quit……


  • Italy seems not to be one of the most stable and most democratic democracies.

    Saying Italy is’nt on of the most stable country is an euphemism. When someone get shot in italy they have the choice, it could be a communist, an anarchist, a right-wing extremist, mafia…

    Still a very beautiful country, they just lack a little unity


  • Okay… no Italy bashing now… :-?


  • former italyn prime minister covicted of murder


  • @FinsterniS:

    Italy seems not to be one of the most stable and most democratic democracies.

    Saying Italy is’nt on of the most stable country is an euphemism. When someone get shot in italy they have the choice, it could be a communist, an anarchist, a right-wing extremist, mafia…

    Still a very beautiful country, they just lack a little unity

    And they sure can cook! The only problem is that they can’t fight for their lives. Them and the French.

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