• @Anonymous:

    It looks like California is in for more hard times. This union slowdown (that isn’t a slowdown according to them) and management lockout (to stop from paying full price for 1/3 of the work is gonna hurt the CA economy.

    I heard something on the radio about a SanFran polluter who wanted to up their toxic dumping in the bay by 400%. The Bay Committee wouldn’t allow it. The polluter met with a Gray Davis appointee (documented in the apointee’s appointment book, but denied by said appointee.) also documented by the polluting company. The appointee sent a note to the Bay committee saying, “Gov. Davis would like to be kept up to date on the situation” (if you get the HINT.) Shortly afterwards a $50,000 donation was made to the Davis campaign by the polluter. The Bay committee approved the polluter’s request, but was overturned by a judge. No change except $50,000 in Davis’ campaign.

    I heard Davis has $15 million in his war chest , but his opponent has only $4,500,000. Sounds like the Big Republican Industries have jumped ship and backed a winner to CYA.

    California is already in the red financially, too, isn’t it? I remember the Gray Davis energy fiasco. He contracted to buy energy for a set price to save the state and the price of energy dropped, but ya still gotta pay it right?

    Plus ya got illegal aliens sneaking in from Mexico and off the ships from China.

    I’d say CA is in for a shitty ride.

    The state in California is perfect. As the conditions there worsen, TG will rise to power and bring Communism to California….right TG?


  • Yeah, he’s one of my favorite liberals. He’s never one to give free rides, holds the people accountable, and doesn’t accept all of that Politically Correct/Why doesn’t the World like me(?) crap.


  • Oh yeah, Calfornia tends to be very “free ranged” (esp. places like San Fransico), though deep down must people are really capitalist looking out for “what’s theirs” :o


  • Re: Falk’s long post …

    This is illogical!

    S/he argues with a third hand post … not with a sentient being. :-?

    F_alk reposts 40% of the original post. :-?

    S/he uses shotgun question tactics to assault the writer’s personal experience. :-?

    F’s question regarding visiting other countries shows that the article was not read thoroughly!

    His/her comment about “mental problems” indicates a highly emotional or unstable mind at the time it was posted!

    F_alk’s use of the “n” word seems out of place. Almost as if expressing a desire to inflame and degenerate the argument (F’s alone). :-?

    And in conclusion, s/he insults the absent writer with an aetheistic/agnostic barb directed at said writer’s belief system! This is rude and lends no credence to the reponse.

    There’s logic for you.


  • Wha- What the hell are you talking about? :o

    It seems like you, Guest, are the most illogical of all – making baseless claims that seem like you copied from generic rhetoric. :-? I’ve have read everything you have posted before somewhere else, and frankly I’m not impressed. Tell me, do you like copying and pasting because there’s an awful lot of it. :o


  • As we are all well aware, the American educational system has been hijacked by the left who use impressionable young people as a modem for proselytizing their neo-Marxist ideology.

    Heh, the author probably doesn’t even know what neo-Marxist are. :-?

    Typically we associate this radical takeover of education with the university level. However, as I have learned from experience, left wing bias is prevalent throughout the high schools as well. When I entered high school I was astonished to discover the extent to which my school leaned in a singular political direction. Nearly all of the staff were liberal Democrats as were the overwhelming majority of the student body, which is over 3500 people

    Sad but through. Usually the party composition of UC schools are 70% left and 30% right, and that’s just an average.

    The direct correlation between the political beliefs of the students and the teachers cannot be overlooked. If a student is unsure of his political beliefs and all of his teachers purport the same message, than it is safe to assume that he will adopt a similar ideology. In affect, this destroys the educational process, which is intended to provide people with the knowledge they need to formulate their own ideas. I believe this is clearly indoctrination of the youth, a tactic used by both the Nazis and Islamic radicals.

    In an attempt to promote the underdog of campus politics, I formed the Political Forum Club. Along with a small band of conservatives, we have dedicated ourselves to fighting the political status quo of our school. This has been an arduous process that has brought us great criticism and retaliation by students and teachers alike. Nevertheless, we endure to promote diversity, an issue typically of great concern to the bleeding heart of the leftist–except of course, diversity of thought.

    Sucks when people trample the State Consitution…

    One of the first steps I took was to invite Libertarian talk radio host and author of the New York Times bestseller The Ten Things You Can’t Say in America, Larry Elder, to speak at an assembly held at our school. Mr. Elder, who is black, spoke about the fact that racism no longer prevents minorities from succeeding in America. Mr. Elder also emphasized his message of personal accountability and the importance of a limited government.

    Read that book. Almost every single one of his claims was utterly true…

    They called Mr. Elder an Uncle Tom, accused my club of racism, and some even protested our right to congregate on campus. Although a barrage of left wing speakers, including Al Gore and a radical from the United Farm Workers Union, have appeared at our school, Mr. Elder was the first conservative/libertarian to do so.

    Getting approval for Mr. Elder’s visit was a battle in itself. The administration tried everything they could to find a reason to cancel the assembly. The principle even tried to claim that Mr. Elder ‘‘hated gays’’ even though Mr. Elder as a libertarian, supports gay marriage and gays in the military. The principle also made me agree to invite a leftwing speaker to ‘‘balance’’ Mr.Elder the following semester. This was never a requirement for left wing speakers and a totally absurd request, considering the purpose of the assembly was to provide balance to a biased and homogeneous environment

    Heh… most people are fools. And most people don’t know the true meaning of an Uncle Tom… :-?

    In the meantime my compatriots and I have been working to bring light to another serious issue, that is, rampant anti-Americanism. Despite the fact that state law mandates the daily reciting of a patriotic oath, my school stopped reciting the pledge of allegiance ten years ago. Many classrooms do not even have a flag hanging on the wall. Following the September 11 terrorist attacks we felt that it was time the old policy regarding the pledge be reinstated. We started a campaign to bring back the pledge and we even appeared on the front page of local newspapers. Today the pledge is recited everyday.

    However, this is only half the battle. Although our school has a new and more moderate administration willing to support the pledge, the teachers on the other hand refuse. Many teachers refuse to lead in reciting the pledge and some even refuse to hang the flag on the wall. Instead they will teach while the pledge is recited over the PA. Last year, following September 11, my history teacher, dragged the US flag across a dirty floor to make the point that the flag is meaningless. As shocking as this may sound, it is altogether fitting at Santa Monica High School. The lack of patriotism among the students is astounding and their animosity toward President Bush is disturbing.

    Santa Monica… so typical.


  • TG Moses VI,
    You are incorrect. It’s all my original work and only my third post on this site. Though, having learned about sentence construction just a few years ago, I will not put my composition on the same plain as Plato, Augustine or Jefferson :). I stand by my assertions, however, my “unstable” comment was uncalled for and I do apologize for it. But, in my defense, I will counter that every German (and I believe from the post that I may conclude that F_alk is such) I have ever met goes spastic when someone who is not German mentions Nazis (dad is an international businessman and has lots of dinner parties.)
    Actually, my post is a 1/4 length redux :P of a previous attempt at posting on the 16th (the website went down and was unreachable until midday today.)


  • You are incorrect. It’s all my original work and only my third post on this site. Though, having learned about sentence construction just a few years ago, I will not put my composition on the same plain as Plato, Augustine or Jefferson

    All I can say is weak. Sorry, but ripping off of writers (no matter how famous) does not define “awesome.” :-?

    I stand by my assertions, however, my “unstable” comment was uncalled for and I do apologize for it.

    Yes, I take particular offense to this - I being branded “unstable” myself. :-?

    Well I take offense whenever I see this… I being branded that several times. :-? But, in my defense, I will counter that every German (and I believe from the post that I may conclude that F_alk is such) I have ever met goes spastic when someone who is not German mentions Nazis (dad is an international businessman and has lots of dinner parties.)

    Yes… this gets quite old very fast. What I can say is don’t lower yourself to others (Germans or whatnot), no matter how ordinary they can be.


  • Excuse me! The “a” word is not, nor has it ever been, in my lexicon. :)
    You again seem to accuse me of plagiarism. Let us look at my words …

    S/he argues with a third hand post … not with a sentient being.
    Maybe from Star Trek? I don’t think Plato need worry.

    F_alk reposts 40% of the original post.
    Fact. It doesn’t really add to F’s debate (20% would’ve done fine.)

    S/he uses shotgun question tactics to assault the writer’s personal experience.
    To what purpose? Again I note: The author is not present.
    The phrase “shotgun question tactics” may be from my intense study of Night Court reruns. Thomas Jefferson’s writings are inviolate. 8)

    F’s question regarding visiting other countries shows that the article was not read thoroughly!
    As the writer mentioned a trip to Guatemala (wasn’t sure of the spelling so I double checked. This public school education finally paid off. :roll: )

    His/her comment about “mental problems” indicates a highly emotional or unstable mind at the time it was posted!
    The “u” word has been dealt with, but why the need to attack a motivated high school student en absentia, rather than gently persuade him? Or is that the norm here? Your Honor, I retract that last question.

    F_alk’s use of the “n” word seems out of place. Almost as if expressing a desire to inflame and degenerate the argument (F’s alone).
    Sorry! Now that I look at this comment, it reminds me of my Non-Western Civilization Literature teacher’s rejection of arguments. If you know the source, please, enlighten moi! Mind you, I still believe the “n” word was out of place … or did F_alk get the rise out of me which s/he had hoped to get from others? I don’t think so.

    And in conclusion, s/he insults the absent writer with an aetheistic/agnostic barb directed at said writer’s belief system! This is rude and lends no credence to the reponse.
    My apologies to Augustine … maybe!
    I love conclusions …especially when they are in the right place (unlike F_'s.) It was an attack outside the main argument.
    –----------------------------------------------------------------------
    I maintain that F_alk came to argue … not to persuade.
    I do love classic court drama movies so I threw this in. 8)


  • F_alk reposts 40% of the original post.
    Fact. It doesn’t really add to F’s debate (20% would’ve done fine.)

    Would it have matter? Usually I would’ve just quoted the whole post (though more section by section as I did earlier). Just be lucky F_alk took the time to snip it for you… :-?

    S/he argues with a third hand post … not with a sentient being.
    Maybe from Star Trek? I don’t think Plato need worry.

    Quote me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this a bad thing? :-?

    S/he uses shotgun question tactics to assault the writer’s personal experience.
    To what purpose? Again I note: The author is not present.
    The phrase “shotgun question tactics” may be from my intense study of Night Court reruns. Thomas Jefferson’s writings are inviolate.

    Examples of such shotguning?

    F’s question regarding visiting other countries shows that the article was not read thoroughly!
    As the writer mentioned a trip to Guatemala (wasn’t sure of the spelling so I double checked. This public school education finally paid off. )

    Yeah, I was disappointed in that… :-?


  • call me stupid, but i missed our Guest’s plagerism. Maybe i’m not the renaissance man i wish to be . . . .


  • @F_alk:

    @Anonymous:

    i bow to the unbeatable conservative mindset and brilliance.

    At least i quoted only 40% of someone elses post (and not 80% of my own)….
    Man, if you claim Plato et al. at your side, then you should also know that posting/quoting something without further comment means that you support this view 100%.

    For germans and Nazis: As long as you stay historically correct and use comparisons with Nazis in context… noone will object.
    And just for the records: The easiest way to get USies go spastic is to post “The US of A are not the best country in the world”… Or say something aimed at the commie-phobia, always works…

    there are a few others, but that’s a good start :)
    for Canadians - don’t diss our beer or our hockey. Just about everything we’ll diss ourselves anyway (or we already have)


  • Hahahaha :lol: Don’t worry American beer sucks so you won’t hear any attacks from us. :)


  • cc, I think he was having fun saying his writings are not up to Plato/Jefferson/Augustine’s standards.

    You’ve drifted way off topic, dudes and dudettes!

    And now San Francisco has an Environmental Civil War!

    The US Marine(?) Base there wants to return the base to its natural state… sand dunes(as in desert.) The natural environmentalists and pro-sand dunementalists agree. However, the tree huggers and pro-high property valuesmentalists disagree.

    HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHA!

    A house divided!

    Now, you may return off topic

    Where the he did the following entries come from?**


  • Kind of off-topic, but IMO, we should reward Spain for their support of the US position vis-a-vis Iraq by giving them back Florida. Let them f**k up Spain’s electoral process for a change… :wink:

    JMO

    Ozone27


  • Dug this out of the dusty files. :D

    I’d say TG Moses VI got it wrong last October, seeing as now California is 38 million $s in the red…

    Now CA Gov. Davis is raising taxes with a projected shortfall of
    $38 million

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56467-2003May14.html


    Anybody know how much the dockworkers strike cost the state of California? Estimates?

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