1942SE at GenCon was awesome.

[Most Holy]

@Bob_A_Mickelson:

By comparing the the photo of the back of the 1st edition box I discovered that it is a Photoshoped version of the original. Three areas are noticeably different. The national production chart is now on the map near the top, and the components on the sides of the boards have been edited over to show the new pieces. Actually the combat strip on the lower right looks to be AA41.1

We should also remember that the back of the box is always a prototype image and cant be taken too literal. Thats typical for lots of boardgames.

AAE40.1

AAE40.2

So it’s cheaper to photoshop than to take a new picture, who’d a thunk it.

[Gargantua]

If it is a Bren-Gun Carrier it would be wierd because you can also see an American Half-track in UK colors. And you laughed when I asked about it.

Yavid,

What really happend is I found myself, and others, all squinting over a bunch of hopeless grainy, and inconsistent pictures.  That have clearly been manufactured.

Then I realized the comparison…

We all take this game SO SERIOUSLY here - we have trying to decipher crayon on a napkin, to see what’s been changed and what hasn’t.  Because we just can’t POSSIBLY bear waiting 4 more weeks for the official release.  And we all want to believe in fantasies (Like Bren Gun Carriers)  I mean hell - it’s on the box!

[Guest]

It’s just like when they manufactured the pictures of the Apollo moon landings and made them grainy on purpose just so people would see what we WANT to see.  Bastards!

[Witt]

You mean we never landed on the moon!
I do not know what to say. They lied to us.
I feel cheated, violated. Dirty even.
Anyway, so we think Italy is still buying Stukas from Germany?
I think Italy’s only ground attack aircraft was the Breda 65.  A slow
and old,  hard to handle plane that was no match for a modern Fighter.
The twin engined SIAI Marchetti SM79 was a great torpedo bomber, so could have been their Tac.  I think most of us recognise it and it could have been used as Itsly did have a 4 engined bomber: the Piaggio P.108B(a Flying Fortress!)

[Hobbes]

@Gargantua:

We all take this game SO SERIOUSLY here - we have trying to decipher crayon on a napkin, to see what’s been changed and what hasn’t.  Because we just can’t POSSIBLY bear waiting 4 more weeks for the official release.  And we all want to believe in fantasies (Like Bren Gun Carriers)  I mean hell - it’s on the box!

Deciphering crayon on a napkin is the funniest part of playing the games :P

[Yavid]

@Hobbes:

@Gargantua:

We all take this game SO SERIOUSLY here - we have trying to decipher crayon on a napkin, to see what’s been changed and what hasn’t.  Because we just can’t POSSIBLY bear waiting 4 more weeks for the official release.  And we all want to believe in fantasies (Like Bren Gun Carriers)  I mean hell - it’s on the box!

Deciphering crayon on a napkin is the funniest part of playing the games :P

I thought that’s what the message boards were for having other people help you decipher crayon on a napkin my bad

[Hobbes]

@Yavid:

@Hobbes:

@Gargantua:

We all take this game SO SERIOUSLY here - we have trying to decipher crayon on a napkin, to see what’s been changed and what hasn’t.�  Because we just can’t POSSIBLY bear waiting 4 more weeks for the official release.�  And we all want to believe in fantasies (Like Bren Gun Carriers)�  I mean hell - it’s on the box!

Deciphering crayon on a napkin is the funniest part of playing the games :P

I thought that’s what the message boards were for having other people help you decipher crayon on a napkin my bad

Exactly. Message boards are based on premise that says that if 1,000 monkeys are locked in a room with 1,000 typewriters then after 1,000,000,000,000,000 year you’ll eventually get one of their attempts to be Hamlet or King Lear. This may help decipher crayon. May.

[CWO Marc]

@Gargantua:

Has anyone EVER seen french Armor in Africa during gameplay?
How would that even be possible?

Probably just a case of the photographer putting pieces on the board in a way to make a nice picture and to show off the variety of sculpts, without much consideration of whether it’s realistic.  It’s like the chessboards you’ll sometimes see as decorative elements in photos or films: if you look carefully, you’ll often see that the “game” in progress makes no sense, or even that the board itself is set up with the black squares in the wrong corners.

[CWO Marc]

It’s interesting to see from squirecam’s Reply #43 picture that Italy’s been upgraded to a four-engine strategic bomber, in contrast with its Axis partners Germany and Japan who’ve always had to make do with two-engine models.

[knp7765]

@CWO:

It’s interesting to see from squirecam’s Reply #43 picture that Italy’s been upgraded to a four-engine strategic bomber, in contrast with its Axis partners Germany and Japan who’ve always had to make do with two-engine models.

Yeah, but on the bright side, we could use this new bomber as Italy’s “heavy” bomber and the FMG SM.79 as Italy’s “regular” bomber.
Looks like WOTC used the same ship models that FMG used in their set, except for the transport.
I found the new Italian tank interesting. It sort of looks like the Carro Armato P-40. Perhaps this could be Italy’s medium or heavy tank?

[Gargantua]

I won’t take away that the front of the box - box art, on Axis and Allies games, has always been incredible.

But I wonder how much better fan art for the back of the box could be.

It’s interesting to see from squirecam’s Reply #43 picture that Italy’s been upgraded to a four-engine strategic bomber, in contrast with its Axis partners Germany and Japan who’ve always had to make do with two-engine models.

LOL…

[knp7765]

@CWO:

@Gargantua:

Has anyone EVER seen french Armor in Africa during gameplay?
How would that even be possible?

Probably just a case of the photographer putting pieces on the board in a way to make a nice picture and to show off the variety of sculpts, without much consideration of whether it’s realistic.  It’s like the chessboards you’ll sometimes see as decorative elements in photos or films: if you look carefully, you’ll often see that the “game” in progress makes no sense, or even that the board itself is set up with the black squares in the wrong corners.

For that matter, how often do you see USA take Poland or have a naval presence in the Baltic?

[lozmoid]

Looks like WOTC used the same ship models that FMG used in their set, except for the transport.
I found the new Italian tank interesting. It sort of looks like the Carro Armato P-40. Perhaps this could be Italy’s medium or heavy tank?

I was wondering the same thing about the Italian ships - do you think WotC have used FMG Italy Combat Units for these?! Crazy if that’s the case!

I have no idea what the Italian Tank is meant to be but yes we could certainly house rule it for a heavy.

[CWO Marc]

@Lozmoid:

Looks like WOTC used the same ship models that FMG used in their set, except for the transport.
I found the new Italian tank interesting. It sort of looks like the Carro Armato P-40. Perhaps this could be Italy’s medium or heavy tank?

I was wondering the same thing about the Italian ships - do you think WotC have used FMG Italy Combat Units for these?! Crazy if that’s the case!

I don’t know about most of the units, but the Aquila carrier and the Littorio battleship – of which I own Panzerschiffe and NavWar wargaming models – were obvious choices for sculpts.  Aquila was the only Italian carrier (it was never even completed) and the Littorios were Italy’s only modern fast battleship class.

[Witt]

The tank is the M13/40 or later M14/42 model. Sorry I did not say earlier.
The Bomber is the Italian " Flying Fortress": Piaggio P108B.
Cannot see the Tac as I am using my phone and I am blind!

[Gargantua]

For that matter, how often do you see USA take Poland or have a naval presence in the Baltic?

Atleast America in Poland, and stationed in the Baltic -could be plausible-.

French tanks in Africa, would take TURNS of fuddled gaming to accomplish.

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