• @TG:

    with what force?
    the one occupied with the Germans?

    The Russians had a 30 million man army. I think an amble force could’ve been diverted to hold the Japanese - at least until the Germans were pushed back.

    I just stoped reading the posts when I came to this one……
    30 million man army… :roll: no.


  • germany should have took the cacus not stalingrd


  • I just stoped reading the posts when I came to this one……
    30 million man army… no.

    Then what was the total enlistment of the Red Army then? :o


  • I thought it was 40 millon?


  • germany should have took the cacus not stalingrd

    The reason Germany attacked Stalingrad was because if they had immediately taken Caucuses the Russians would’ve counterattacked from Stalingrad. So they decided to take out the threat and then go for where it’s rich.

    I didn’t think it was quite 30 mil but a big #.


  • they invaded stalingrad because hitler wanted to get the moral of stalin down.


  • 40 million? Maybe…

    Anyways, Stalingrad was the gateway to the rich oil fields of the Soviet Union. The Germans had to take it.


  • What source of information did you guys get your 30-40 million man army for Russia?
    Please let me know.


  • Various articles, though I don’t have any on me right now. Anybody care to do a search on it?


  • At the beginning of “Barbarosa” The Germans had 153 divisions at the Russian border.
    The total man power was about 3’050,000.
    Russian at the time was about 4’700.000 strong.

    That’s a far cry from 30 million.
    However, if your suggesting that Russia mobilized 30 million over the coarse of the war….well thats a different and I admit my mistake.
    In saying that, they certainly didn’t have acess to 30 million at any one given time.
    And on top of all that, German mobilization through the war, was around 20 million.
    Which, when compared to Russian mobilization, is not huge difference considering the quality of the Germany military.


  • At the beginning of “Barbarosa” The Germans had 153 divisions at the Russian border.
    The total man power was about 3’050,000.
    Russian at the time was about 4’700.000 strong.

    Well that was Barbarosa where the Russians were totally unprepared (mainly because of Stalin). The Russians did have a large standing army, though it needed to be modernized.

    However, if your suggesting that Russia mobilized 30 million over the coarse of the war….well thats a different and I admit my mistake.

    No problem, though I think the total number was much greater than that. I think at one time the Russians mustered 10-12 million. Anybody care to do some research?

    Which, when compared to Russian mobilization, is not huge difference considering the quality of the Germany military.

    The Russians had a very quality military too after 1942.


  • 30 mil. agansit just germany or with th japs?


  • Quote from me “well thats a different and I admit my mistake.”

    That should read “thats different and I admit my mistake” :roll:


  • @Anonymous:

    Quote from me “well thats a different and I admit my mistake.”

    That should read “thats different and I admit my mistake” :roll:

    That’s my post…… :oops: dumb!


  • and you talk about quotes here because?….


  • 30 mil. agansit just germany or with th japs?

    No, i’m talking about Eastern Front Stats. Anybody willing to research it for me?


  • @GeZe:

    and you talk about quotes here because?….

    I’m just correcting and clearing up mistakes in my previous post……is that not clear enough for you?


  • @TG:

    30 mil. agansit just germany or with th japs?

    No, i’m talking about Eastern Front Stats. Anybody willing to research it for me?

    Its hard to find exact stats for Russian military strength during WW2.
    In a book I’ve have at home its states that the Germany had expected to fight 200 Russian divisions. In December 41 they had counted over 360 divisions with more still coming.
    The more I look into it TG, the more accurate your 30 million seems.
    Over the coarse of the war anyhow.


  • I wish I had never thrown out some WWII articles I use to have… :(


  • @Mr:

    @GeZe:

    and you talk about quotes here because?….

    I’m just correcting and clearing up mistakes in my previous post……is that not clear enough for you?

    oh, ok then

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