Tigers spotted on the Eastern Front!

[CWO Marc]

With the new Tiger tanks from A&A 1941 and the revised Panther tanks issued from A&A BotB onward, plus the T-34 sculpts on the Russian side, we now have some nice ingredients for a Kursk game.

[Witt]

Are things  being set up for a new A&A game? Dare we hope!

[Warplayer12]

@wittmann:

Are things  being set up for a new A&A game? Dare we hope!

At least, i hope the newest game is 1 without America. Nothing against them, but EVERY game released from A&A had american forces. I´m getting tired of them.

[CWO Marc]

@wittmann:

Are things  being set up for a new A&A game? Dare we hope!

Well, at least there’s potential for people to create their own house rules for a Kursk game.  Axistiger13 makes a good point about the American pieces: compared with the other four main countries, the U.S. has always placed more demands on the tackle boxes in which I stope my sculpts.  Britain is a close second because it’s been in every game other than Guadalcanal, so that adds up to quite a lot of sculpts.  Germany has been in fewer games than Britain, and Japan in fewer games that Germany, but they each tend to be given lots of pieces in games like the original Europe A&A and Pacific A&A in which there’s just one Axis country.  Russia has the fewest pieces of all: it’s been in the fewest number of games, and never as the sole Allied power.  My collection could use more T-34s and fewer Shermans.

[Witt]

Most of us would love a Kursk, but it would not work if it was just the battle, because the Germans could never have won that. Suppose like “Bulge”, could be done on bettering the German historical gains.
I think a post Stalingrad 1943 scenario, with the Germans having more say where they went and how they stabilised the Eastern Front would work better and be more exciting.
Of course I would love one that ended with the fall of Berlin or an armistice called if Germany were still in Russia.

[Yavid]

I’ve just had Tigers and IS-2s show up in a Global game I’ve been playing can’t wait to get the on the map close to each other. It is alittle strange seeing Tigers and Panthers on the same map. The same can be said for T-34s and IS-2s.

[Der Kuenstler]

@MidnightExpress:

That’s a cool photo. The German units look similar to the original MB Classic grey. Is it just the lighting, or are they grey instead of black?

They are spraypainted dark grey - I’m kind of old school about some of the piece colors - never liked the gloss black Germans.

[General 6 Stars]

Ya DER, Im with you on that one for dark grey for Germany.

[hkytown1]

What map is that?

[Imperious Leader]

my map. check varients

[Der Kuenstler]

@hkytown1:

What map is that?

As IL said, it is Imperious Leaders Spring 1942 map with neutrals, printed out at a local printer. I don’t have the whole 1941 game - just bought a set of pieces from Ebay and supplements from historicalboardgaming.com. I don’t even know what to call my game anymore - since I’ve added Italy now, it’s more like Anniversary Edition. It’s kind of a mix of what I like about all the games in the series - lol.

[sgtwiltan]

@CWO:

@wittmann:

Are things�  being set up for a new A&A game? Dare we hope!

Well, at least there’s potential for people to create their own house rules for a Kursk game.  Axistiger13 makes a good point about the American pieces: compared with the other four main countries, the U.S. has always placed more demands on the tackle boxes in which I stope my sculpts.  Britain is a close second because it’s been in every game other than Guadalcanal, so that adds up to quite a lot of sculpts.  Germany has been in fewer games than Britain, and Japan in fewer games that Germany, but they each tend to be given lots of pieces in games like the original Europe A&A and Pacific A&A in which there’s just one Axis country.  Russia has the fewest pieces of all: it’s been in the fewest number of games, and never as the sole Allied power.  My collection could use more T-34s and fewer Shermans.

You could use some of the Shermans and Matildas as lend lease re-enforcement provided you paint them to match russia.
I know what you mean by the sheer numbers of shermans as I have practically all the A&A games and some even double or more.
I’ve been modifying mine into an early Sherman and Firefly for the UK while the US will get a standard 75, 76 and an HVSS 76 tank.
I have been toying with converting some shermans into either Lee or Grant M3s. Already have loads of M3 stuarts from HBG.

Back on the tiger topic, I’ve finished a platoon of orange Tigers into the E version and will be making the other 5 into H versions making 2 fairly distinct Tigers. The early version with the Feifel air cleaners while the H version will have the cleaner rear deck and rearranged turret top with maybe an attempt at zimmeret.

[hkytown1]

It’s a beautiful map.  Borders clearly defined. Nice. Is it me IL or are the boarders a little tough to distinguish with these newer boards.  No sharpees needed.

[hkytown1]

That map is sensual, seductive, and understands my feelings.  Much like variables dice, it’s “aesthetically pleasing” as well

[CWO Marc]

@sgtwiltan:

I know what you mean by the sheer numbers of shermans as I have practically all the A&A games and some even double or more.

I just did a little calculation for fun, based on the fact that on the Western Front in 1944 and 1945 the Americans would typically lose four Shermans for each single Tiger they destroyed. I have three copies of A&A 1941, each of which contains 5 German Tigers plus 5 Japanese ones which I’ll count as variant-coloured German tanks for this exercise.  That makes 10 Tigers per copy, for a total of 30 Tigers.  Multiplying that by four, it means I have enough Tigers to destroy 120 of my American Sherman tanks. Sounds impressive at first…but that still only turns out to be a fraction of the total number of American and British Shermans I have (the British ones being from the pre-Matilda games).  This is actually an accurate reflection of the problem the Germans faced: no matter how many Shermans they demolished, the Americans always had more in reserve.  It gives me a new appreciation for the impressive quantity of Shermans that were being cranked out by the Detroit Tank Arsenal during the second half of WWII.

[Der Kuenstler]

Not to mention all the hordes of T-34s - the Germans couldn’t move a foot further in Axis and Allies if that number was historically represented.

[UrJohn]

@CWO:

This is actually an accurate reflection of the problem the Germans faced: no matter how many Shermans they demolished, the Americans always had more in reserve.  It gives me a new appreciation for the impressive quantity of Shermans that were being cranked out by the Detroit Tank Arsenal during the second half of WWII.

Yep! My great uncle, Jim, among many other courageous US tank crewmen in World War II, survived his tank getting blown up. They put him in another tank and sent him on into Germany.

[CWO Marc]

@UrJohn:

Yep! My great uncle, Jim, among many other courageous US tank crewmen in World War II, survived his tank getting blown up. They put him in another tank and sent him on into Germany.

He was a lucky guy to survive that, given how easily Shermans caught fire when they were hit.  There was a WWII joke – I can’t recall if it was a British or German one – saying that if you hit a British-manned Sherman with a hammer, the crew would scramble out before you had time to hit it again.

[Gargantua]

survived his tank getting blown up

Did they jump out Gi-Joe/Cobra style?

[hkytown1]

Yea, no one ever died in those cartoons, always jumped out or parachuted out!!! That’s why they where elite.
Do you remember the BAT robots destro made?  the Joe’s blew the piss out of those things.  It’s more kid friendly when robots are being destroyed.
Star Wars episode I took that idea as well.