Napoleon abdicated today, the 11th April, 1814. He had been ruler of 70 million people, 30 million of them French, the rest Spanish, Belgian, Dutch, some Italian and German. He had also ruled parts of Poland and Yugoslavia. Then he attacked Russia. After the disaster that was Russia he was outnumbered two to one by a coalition of Austrian, Prussian, Russians and Swedes at the battle of Leipzig, losing this battle. This too had come after the loss of Spain to Wellington(June 1813).
On the 31st March 1814 the Allies entered Paris. His Generals persuaded him to abdicate in favour of his 3 year old son. His 10 year Empire had come to a close.
He tried to poison himself on the 12th, but ended up vomiting and not dying. On the 29th he was on his way to exile on Elba.
He would return.
Time Travel
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So, we cannot see the black holes themselves, but since the pull of it’s gravity is so strong, we can see the energy pooling up ready to be sucked in?
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So, we cannot see the black holes themselves, but since the pull of it’s gravity is so strong, we can see the energy pooling up ready to be sucked in?
maybe consider them to be like magnetic fields (VERY crude analogy). a body/solution/molecule subject to a magnetic field (for example, in an MRI/NMR (nuclear resonance imaging) machine will become excited. This excitement has a signiture (likely multiple signitures) that may register in different ways. One of these might well be captured by: infra-red/spin-spin coupling/ etc. (i.e. something that does not get sucked into the black hole).
i hope this is a little clear - sorry, i’m no astrophysicist, however i do find imaging fascinating. -
“Sorry, I did not mean it in that way. I talking more about traveling long distances. Cosmic strings might work for that.”
Yes, but cosmic strings evolve and eventually decay due to the radiation and energy they give off. How would you get two cosmic strings together or at least close enough to a black hole to do this? Then you would have to find some way for your time machine to loop around the cosmic string, as well as well the necessary mass energy too travel further back in time. :(
“I think Stephen Hawking explained it best when he said that time travel is not possible because nobody from the future has visited us yet.”
But I always brought up to believe that a time machine cannot go back further than the point where the time machine was created. :(
For example, traveling back further back in time we would open ourselves to many different paradoxes. What would happen if I traveled back in time to killed my father, heaven forbid? Can I travel back further in time then when I was born? Would I cease to exist? Of course I could be wrong. Maybe the reason for this is because our events done in the past from the future could open us to the possibility of parallel or alternate universes, which might explain why no one has contacted us from the future. Time no longer follows a straight line but branches off into many different universes.“So, we cannot see the black holes themselves, but since the pull of it’s gravity is so strong, we can see the energy pooling up ready to be sucked in?”
Correct! Look at it this way, Sir Yanny, before matter passes into a black hole, it is crushed by the strong gravitational field, which causes the matter to emit radiation that escapes prior to the destruction of matter.
“maybe consider them to be like magnetic fields (VERY crude analogy). a body/solution/molecule subject to a magnetic field (for example, in an MRI/NMR (nuclear resonance imaging) machine will become excited. This excitement has a signiture (likely multiple signitures) that may register in different ways. One of these might well be captured by: infra-red/spin-spin coupling/ etc. (i.e. something that does not get sucked into the black hole).
i hope this is a little clear - sorry, i’m no astrophysicist, however i do find imaging fascinating.”I find you fascinating! ^_~ It is not everyday that I get to meet someone with such a great understand of both medicine and cosmology :D
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@TM:
“maybe consider them to be like magnetic fields (VERY crude analogy). a body/solution/molecule subject to a magnetic field (for example, in an MRI/NMR (nuclear resonance imaging) machine will become excited. This excitement has a signiture (likely multiple signitures) that may register in different ways. One of these might well be captured by: infra-red/spin-spin coupling/ etc. (i.e. something that does not get sucked into the black hole).
i hope this is a little clear - sorry, i’m no astrophysicist, however i do find imaging fascinating.”I find you fascinating! ^_~ It is not everyday that I get to meet someone with such a great understand of both medicine and cosmology :D
as opposed to “cosmotology” - a science that yet eludes me :)
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Yes, but cosmic strings evolve and eventually decay due to the radiation and energy they give off. How would you get two cosmic strings together or at least close enough to a black hole to do this? Then you would have to find some way for your time machine to loop around the cosmic string, as well as well the necessary mass energy too travel further back in time.
duh, I know that. :-? I was just saying that Cosmic Strings were at least more feasible then using wormholes.
Yes, but cosmic strings evolve and eventually decay due to the radiation and energy they give off. How would you get two cosmic strings together or at least close enough to a black hole to do this? Then you would have to find some way for your time machine to loop around the cosmic string, as well as well the necessary mass energy too travel further back in time.
Hmmm… went back and killed parts of my family, eh? This should be “interesting.” :wink:
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@TG:
Yes, but cosmic strings evolve and eventually decay due to the radiation and energy they give off. How would you get two cosmic strings together or at least close enough to a black hole to do this? Then you would have to find some way for your time machine to loop around the cosmic string, as well as well the necessary mass energy too travel further back in time.
duh, I know that. :-? I was just saying that Cosmic Strings were at least more feasible then using wormholes.
Yes, but cosmic strings evolve and eventually decay due to the radiation and energy they give off. How would you get two cosmic strings together or at least close enough to a black hole to do this? Then you would have to find some way for your time machine to loop around the cosmic string, as well as well the necessary mass energy too travel further back in time.
Hmmm… went back and killed parts of my family, eh? This should be “interesting.” :wink:
TM, I’d watch out for older versions of TG if I were you!
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Do not worry, I will! :D
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Dont worry Tm can Take TG ne day. she can Launch a Cosmic Happy ray and will Rid TG of his Evil Thoughts ;)
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Evil thoughts, huh? :roll: That’s interesting coming from you. :wink:
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o Im not Evil! i am the Good guy in the Political Compass :) i just use Some Dark Means to Achieve the Better Outcome for the Human Race :)
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seen the teminator? it has interesting things about time travel like if the lab is destroyed then the liquid metal guy would not egsist
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Terminator’s got a good point, if someone has come from the future they probly would’ve been sent to some place for insane people.
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I doubt you could travel back that far.
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@Deviant:Scripter:
Well F_alk, I hate to use Stephen Hawking again, but I think I must:
Hawking realized that if a particle/anti-particle pair came into existence near the event horizon of a black hole, one might fall into the hole before annihilating its anti-particle. The other particle could then escape the gravitational clutches of the black hole, appearing to an outside observer as radiation."
Which is an “out-dated theory” / “popular science explanation”. It’s wrong, i once knew the correct mechanism, and could surely find the FAQ where that was explained correctly.
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@TM:
For example, traveling back further back in time we would open ourselves to many different paradoxes. What would happen if I traveled back in time to killed my father, heaven forbid?
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Time no longer follows a straight line but branches off into many different universes.To the second: That’s probaly what is called the Many-worlds-theory, first mentioned by Everett and Wheeler. This actually would allow time travel without paradoxa: If you travel backwards, you will not end up in the “world” that you actually came from. You could kill your father there, and never be born in that world, but still you will be born in yours.
But there are other things which are opposing time travel:
Anyone, as a living being, consists of matter. Matter and Energy are equivalent. Now suddenly (as you travel backwards) the universe lends itself energy from the future? I think the conservation of energy (or any other conservation laws) ís the most powerful argument against time travel.
Another example: We believe (and have good reason to do so), that the overall universe is electronically neutral: same amount of positve and negative charges.
Now, (after having splitted a H atom) if you take with you (going back in time) a single electron, and leave the proton “in the future”, you violate that law for some time.I grow more and more opposed to time travel :)
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now the objective of the terminator doesnt make sense. cus if he kills jon conner the humans lose but then it erases the reason for the T1000 to come in the first place so he realley doesnt die cus the T1000 cant come so there for it is impossible for jon connor to die and the terminator is on a lost cause ;)
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I grow more and more opposed to time travel
Nah, I’m sure we can get time travel to work. However, you can’t go back any further then when you stepped into the time machine - ruling out the idea of T1000 going into the past. :-?
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@TG:
Nah, I’m sure we can get time travel to work. However, you can’t go back any further then when you stepped into the time machine - ruling out the idea of T1000 going into the past. :-?
Well, of course, i am opposed to travel backwards. Forwards is no problem, we do that all the time :).
And what use is a time machine, when you can’t get out “before” you got in? -
Do a lot of things at once within a short amount of time –- or even no time at all? :-?
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what about stoping time?..…