Napoleonic Empire - 5ppl - Free for All (Noll - Veqryn - Alex - Wheat - Gekk)

[lexgreat]

Veq, that this is just a game aside for now (all this is strictly within the game and not personal), pls dont lecture me regarding such games. I dont know how long you play things like Diplomacy ,probably for a long time, as do I. And not in all games do I find that a win is the most satisfying outcome, or possible at all due to this or that. And also, twist it like you want to, I told you that as long as you dont attack my territories, I wont attack yours. I kept my word, and you have no way to prove your theories, only wishful thinking. According to you its a given that anyone attacks in this situation, 100% of the time. Prove it that it would have been so in this game. Its your perception, it is what you expected, fine, no problem with that, but its nothing more than that. And it never happened. I also do not mind that you took preemptive measures, thats totally normal. But it made you the agressor, made it impossible to prove your expectation, and made me an implacable enemy. Thats all, and in hindishgt I am glad that I did not waste a lot of units on Scandinavian adventures….who knows what else would not have been in your best interest. Not taking under-defended Russian territories, maybe ;)

[Noll]

More than winning, my best interest is to support the powers that deserve my trust. If we check it from a Victory Cities points, the one that is in better position at the moment is the UK. And with the last Austrian attack (the suicide attack that left Vienna empty), The United Kingon is in great position of attacking and expanding in Russia alone. So as for now everything looks like Austria is a puppet state of UK.

I guess it’s a good play on the UK’s side.

[Noll]

Here’s a pic of France

[Veqryn]

It was not meant as an insult, I truly thought you were new to this sort of thing.

And of course everything is just within this game.  I play a lot of games like Diplomacy and it is impossible to keep your head on straight if you take all your enemies and allies from a finished game into a newly starting game.  If I ever play a game with any of you guys again, it is a clean slate in my mind.  This might be my first game with most of you, but I’ve played with Noll before and like him quite a bit in our other games and look forward to more games with him and you all.

My opinions previously posted were the opinions of a rather frustrated Austria after being betrayed (but maybe not stabbed) by france, and overall in a bad situation regardless.  Treat them as such.

I feel that I should also add that certain movements and builds often do constitute war, and the actual declaration of war is merely a stamp on it.  An example would be France building navy in the english channel and marines in Paris.  
For Austria, the things you did taken as a whole were almost the same as that (taking the neutral buffer right by prussia, moving your whole army to my front, building a navy in the baltic, putting down factories directly across our border [minsk]).  Throw in the fact that you rejected all my offerings and diplomatic offers and private messages, and the fact that you also rejected various offers from me to draw-down and move-back our troops, either slowly or all at once.  You really can not blame me for seeing war coming on the horizon led by you.  So if you give me a 10 on the aggresso-meter, you surely deserve an 8 or 9 for pushing me into it.  After all, if you didn’t want a war, you could have just moved back a space or shown even the smallest amount of interest in working with me on even humble matters.

[lexgreat]

Good game Veq, so far  :wink:

[Veqryn]

@alexgreat:

Good game Veq, so far  :wink:

glad you like it

though i can’t take credit for all of it.  most of the art as well as the background map were done by lssah

[Gekkepop]

Yeah the map still has a couple of issues (the political system is weird and the FFA doesn’t seem very balanced) but it’s a lot of fun.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers moved from Hungary to Zala
            2 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 7 Fusilierss moved from Slavonia to Zala
            1 Artillery, 1 Dragoons and 10 Fusilierss moved from Bulgaria to Moldavia
            2 Dragoonss moved from Macedonia to Moldavia
            2 Dragoonss moved from Hellas to Macedonia
            3 Dragoonss moved from Kiutayeh to Lazes
            1 Mahmud moved from Serbia to Kiutayeh
            2 Artillerys and 7 Fusilierss moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria
            1 Dragoons moved from Constantinople to Moldavia
            5 Artillerys, 3 Chasseurss and 7 Fusilierss moved from Serbia to Slavonia
            1 Mahmud moved from Croatia to Salzburg
                  OttomanEmpire take Salzburg from AustrianEmpire
            1 Mahmud moved from Salzburg to Slovenia
            4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss moved from Slovenia to Austria

Purchase Units - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire buy 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss and 8 Mahmuds; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - OttomanEmpire
            Battle in Austria
                OttomanEmpire attack with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Capital and 2 Mortella_Towers
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Austria, round 1 :  3/17 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 2 Mortella_Towers in Austria, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 Mortella_Towers owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Austria
                OttomanEmpire destroys 53PUs while taking AustrianEmpire capital
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Austria from AustrianEmpire with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 2 Mortella_Towers
            Battle in Zala
                OttomanEmpire attack with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Mortella_Tower
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Zala, round 1 :  5/16 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Mortella_Tower in Zala, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Mortella_Tower owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Zala
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Zala from AustrianEmpire with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 1 Mortella_Tower

Non Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 General moved from Serbia to Slavonia
            1 General moved from Croatia to Slovenia
            16 Artillerys, 13 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 10 Mariness moved from Slovenia to Zala
            7 Chasseurss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            3 Chasseurss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            1 Mahmud moved from Croatia to Austria

Place Units - OttomanEmpire
            2 Mahmuds placed in Slovenia
            1 Artillery placed in Slavonia
            3 Fusilierss placed in Constantinople
            3 Mahmuds placed in Kiutayeh
            3 Mahmuds placed in Anatolia

Turn Complete - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire collect 94 PUs; end with 94 PUs total
            Objective OttomanEmpire destroys TUV: OttomanEmpire met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 98 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by OttomanEmpire from Umbria: 2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by OttomanEmpire to Slovenia: 2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by OttomanEmpire to SZ55: 1 Barque, 9 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 5 Cutters and 4 Frigates
            EDIT: Adding units owned by OttomanEmpire to Oran: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
            EDIT: Removing units owned by OttomanEmpire from SZ59: 1 Barque, 9 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 5 Cutters, 4 Frigates, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 93 / 95
    UnitedKingdom : 79 / 83
    AustrianEmpire : 38 / 0
    OttomanEmpire : 94 / 98
    Russia : 48 / 59

[wheatbeer]

I forgot to use all my ships, had to use EDIT to transport men from Italy and to move the main fleet.

[Gekkepop]

Savegame would not open for me, probably due to the edits. Not sure if Alex is going to have the same problem but it seems likely.

[lexgreat]

Right, I cannot load the game, Wheat.

[wheatbeer]

Sorry about that  :oops:  I’ll redo it.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers moved from Hungary to Zala
            2 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 7 Fusilierss moved from Slavonia to Zala

Purchase Units - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire buy 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss and 8 Mahmuds; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - OttomanEmpire
            Battle in Austria
                OttomanEmpire attack with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Capital and 2 Mortella_Towers
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Austria, round 1 :  6/17 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 2 Mortella_Towers in Austria, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 Mortella_Towers owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Austria
                OttomanEmpire destroys 53PUs while taking AustrianEmpire capital
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Austria from AustrianEmpire with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 2 Mortella_Towers
            Battle in Zala
                OttomanEmpire attack with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Mortella_Tower
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Zala, round 1 :  1/16 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Mortella_Tower in Zala, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Mortella_Tower owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Zala
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Zala from AustrianEmpire with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 1 Mortella_Tower

Non Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 Barque, 9 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 5 Cutters, 4 Frigates, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ59 to SZ55
            3 Dragoonss moved from Kiutayeh to Lazes
            7 Barques moved from SZ77 to SZ76
            2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from Umbria to SZ76
            7 Barques, 2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from SZ76 to SZ77
            1 Artillery, 1 Dragoons and 10 Fusilierss moved from Bulgaria to Moldavia
            1 Dragoons moved from Constantinople to Moldavia
            2 Artillerys and 7 Fusilierss moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria
            2 Dragoonss moved from Macedonia to Moldavia
            1 Mahmud moved from Serbia to Kiutayeh
            5 Artillerys, 3 Chasseurss, 7 Fusilierss and 1 General moved from Serbia to Slavonia
            2 Dragoonss moved from Hellas to Macedonia
            16 Artillerys, 13 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 10 Mariness moved from Slovenia to Zala
            10 Chasseurss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            2 Mahmuds moved from Croatia to Austria
            1 General moved from Croatia to Slovenia
            2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from SZ77 to Slovenia

Place Units - OttomanEmpire
            3 Mahmuds placed in Kiutayeh
            3 Mahmuds placed in Anatolia
            1 Mahmud placed in Slavonia
            2 Fusilierss placed in Slovenia
            1 Artillery, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Mahmud placed in Constantinople

Turn Complete - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire collect 92 PUs; end with 92 PUs total
            Objective OttomanEmpire destroys TUV: OttomanEmpire met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 96 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 93 / 95
    UnitedKingdom : 79 / 83
    AustrianEmpire : 40 / 0
    OttomanEmpire : 92 / 96
    Russia : 48 / 59

[lexgreat]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - Russia
            1 Battleship and 1 Brigantine moved from SZ53 to SZ49

Purchase Units - Russia
            Russia buy 7 Fortresss and 1 Kutusov; Remaining resources: 15 PUs;

Non Combat Move - Russia
            2 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 1 Grenadiers moved from Novgorod to Moscovia
            1 Artillery, 1 General and 1 Grenadiers moved from Smolensk to Moscovia
            4 Chasseurss and 1 Howitzer moved from Severia to Moscovia
            1 Cuirassiers moved from Mordvins to Moscovia
            1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Fusiliers moved from Astrakahn to Tsaritsyn
            1 Fusiliers moved from Georgia to Astrakahn
            1 General moved from Georgia to Astrakahn

Place Units - Russia
            7 Fortresss placed in Moscovia
            1 Kutusov placed in Astrakahn

Turn Complete - Russia
            Russia collect 48 PUs; end with 63 PUs total

[lexgreat]

Round 20:

Russia does nothing:

[Noll]

France dows Austria
Proposes Alliance to the Ottomans

[Gekkepop]

UK does nothing.

[wheatbeer]

Ottomans accept French offer, that’s all.

[Veqryn]

nutting

[Noll]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :20

Politics - France
            France takes Political Action: Political Action France War AustrianEmpire
                France succeeds on action: Political Action France War AustrianEmpire: Changing Relationship for France and AustrianEmpire from Ceasefire to War
            France takes Political Action: Political Action Treaty France Open Borders OttomanEmpire
                France succeeds on action: Political Action Treaty France Open Borders OttomanEmpire: Changing Relationship for France and OttomanEmpire from Ceasefire to Open_Borders

Combat Move - France
            2 Battleships, 11 Brigantines, 14 Cutters, 3 Frigates and 6 Mariness moved from SZ56 to SZ53
            1 Marines moved from Tangiers to SZ53
            2 Mariness moved from Andalusia to SZ53
            1 Fusiliers moved from Oporto to Alemtejo
            1 Fusiliers moved from New Castille to Andalusia
            3 Brigantines and 4 Cutters moved from SZ45 to SZ41
            1 Cutter moved from SZ38 to SZ41
            1 Brigantine and 1 Cutter moved from SZ48 to SZ40
            1 Dragoons moved from Venetia to Bavaria
                  France take Salzburg from AustrianEmpire
                  France take Bavaria from AustrianEmpire
            1 Cuirassiers moved from Venetia to Tyrol
                  France take Tyrol from AustrianEmpire
            2 Artillerys, 15 Chasseurss, 8 Cuirassierss, 25 Fusilierss, 23 Howitzers and 3 Mortarss moved from Venetia to Salzburg
            3 Chasseurss and 4 Fusilierss moved from Eturia to Rome
            10 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from Champagne to Rhine
                  France take Rhine from AustrianEmpire
            21 Fusilierss and 4 Howitzers moved from Champagne to Rhine
            5 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from Orleanais to Champagne
            2 Chasseurss moved from Burgundy to Champagne
            3 Chasseurss moved from Auvergne to Champagne
            2 Chasseurss moved from Lombardi to Eturia
            1 General moved from Lombardi to Eturia
            1 General moved from Auvergne to Gascony
            1 General moved from Burgundy to Auvergne

Purchase Units - France
            France buy 4 Barques, 1 Chasseurs, 5 Fusilierss, 5 Howitzers and 3 Mariness; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - France

Non Combat Move - France

Place Units - France
            2 Barques placed in SZ43
            2 Barques placed in SZ53
            2 Mariness placed in Andalusia
            5 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers placed in Orleanais
            1 Marines placed in Auvergne
            1 Chasseurs placed in Eturia

Turn Complete - France
            France collect 99 PUs; end with 99 PUs total