Napoleonic Empire - 5ppl - Free for All (Noll - Veqryn - Alex - Wheat - Gekk)

[Noll]

France did not 'stab anyone.
France wants to understand who are the real enemies.
The Boats in Gibraltar where my way of preventing an UK landing in Spain, I tought that boats are more usefull than few land units in preventing cheap landings.

And I never had any intention of attacking Russia, nor you asked me to.

[lexgreat]

Apart from the fact that there might be no backstab at all, you always seems to be the wrong person to backstab, Veq.

And lets not forget that you broke a deal you had with me way back. Did you follow your own rules, did you do that in order to immediately win, or to get in any good position? Doesnt look so to me. And I dont buy the preemptive stuff that you use as justification ;)

[Gekkepop]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - UnitedKingdom
            1 Corvette and 1 Marines moved from SZ36 to SZ33
            2 Cutters moved from SZ36 to SZ33
            1 Brigantine and 1 Marines moved from SZ34 to SZ33
            2 Mariness moved from SZ33 to Wessex
            1 Cutter moved from SZ44 to SZ36
            2 Barques moved from SZ3 to SZ6
            1 Brigantine moved from SZ3 to SZ7
            2 Battleships moved from SZ7 to SZ3
            1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from Prussia to SZ7
            1 Barque, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ7 to SZ3
            1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ3 to Ingria
            3 Fusilierss moved from Krakow to Volhynia
            2 Chasseurss and 2 Fusilierss moved from Krakow to Warszowa
            1 Fusiliers moved from Posen to Warszowa
            12 Dragoonss and 1 Hussars moved from Krakow to Minsk
            1 Chasseurs moved from Prussia to SZ7
            1 Marines moved from Lithuania to SZ7
            1 Barque, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Marines moved from SZ7 to SZ3
            1 Chasseurs and 1 Marines moved from SZ3 to Ingria
            1 Howitzer and 2 Mariness moved from Holstein to SZ10
            1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Howitzer and 2 Mariness moved from SZ10 to SZ7
            1 Fusiliers and 1 Howitzer moved from Holstein to Mecklenburg
            1 Marines moved from SZ7 to Latvia
            1 Howitzer and 1 Marines moved from SZ7 to Lithuania
            1 Artillery, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Howitzer and 3 Mariness moved from Latvia to Minsk
            3 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 7 Fusilierss, 6 Grenadierss, 4 Howitzers, 18 Mariness and 5 Mortarss moved from Lithuania to Minsk
            1 Chasseurs, 2 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer, 3 Mariness and 1 Mortars moved from Pomerania to Prussia
            2 Cuirassierss and 1 Dragoons moved from Brandenburg to Warszowa
            1 Wellington moved from Hanovre to Posen
            2 Dragoonss moved from Hanovre to Brandenburg
            1 Barque moved from SZ7 to SZ6
            1 Barque moved from SZ4 to SZ6
            1 Fusiliers and 1 Howitzer moved from Ostra Gotaland to SZ6
            2 Barques, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Howitzer moved from SZ6 to SZ7
            1 Fusiliers and 1 Howitzer moved from SZ7 to Lithuania
            1 Fusiliers and 1 Howitzer moved from Skane to Ostra Gotaland
            3 Barques moved from SZ26 to SZ29
            1 Fusiliers, 2 Howitzers and 3 Mariness moved from Essex to SZ29
            3 Barques, 1 Fusiliers, 2 Howitzers and 3 Mariness moved from SZ29 to SZ26
            1 Fusiliers, 2 Howitzers and 3 Mariness moved from SZ26 to Holstein

Purchase Units - UnitedKingdom
            UnitedKingdom buy 2 Artillerys, 1 Brigantine, 2 Cuirassierss, 2 Fusilierss, 2 Howitzers, 4 Mariness and 1 Wellington; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - UnitedKingdom
            Battle in Volhynia
                UnitedKingdom attack with 3 Fusilierss
                Russia defend with 1 Fusiliers
                UnitedKingdom win, taking Volhynia from Russia with 3 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russia: 1 Fusiliers
            Battle in Minsk
                UnitedKingdom attack with 4 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 12 Dragoonss, 8 Fusilierss, 6 Grenadierss, 5 Howitzers, 1 Hussars, 21 Mariness and 5 Mortarss
                Russia defend with 1 Artillery, 2 Chasseurss, 1 Encampment and 2 Fusilierss
                UnitedKingdom win, taking Minsk from Russia with 4 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 12 Dragoonss, 8 Fusilierss, 6 Grenadierss, 5 Howitzers, 21 Mariness and 5 Mortarss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 1 Hussars
                Casualties for Russia: 1 Artillery, 2 Chasseurss and 2 Fusilierss
            Battle in Ingria
                UnitedKingdom attack with 1 Chasseurs, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness
                Russia defend with 2 Cuirassierss and 1 Encampment
                UnitedKingdom win, taking Ingria from Russia with 1 Chasseurs, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Russia: 2 Cuirassierss

Non Combat Move - UnitedKingdom

Place Units - UnitedKingdom
            1 Brigantine placed in SZ29
            1 Fusiliers, 2 Howitzers and 3 Mariness placed in Essex
            1 Artillery and 1 Marines placed in Skane
            1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers placed in Pomerania
            2 Cuirassierss and 1 Wellington placed in Hanovre

Turn Complete - UnitedKingdom
            UnitedKingdom collect 79 PUs; end with 79 PUs total
            Objective UnitedKingdom destroys TUV: UnitedKingdom met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 83 PUs

[Veqryn]

@alexgreat:

Apart from the fact that there might be no backstab at all, you always seems to be the wrong person to backstab, Veq.

And lets not forget that you broke a deal you had with me way back. Did you follow your own rules, did you do that in order to immediately win, or to get in any good position? Doesnt look so to me. And I dont buy the preemptive stuff that you use as justification ;)

you were never an ally russia, despite my attempts to make diplomacy with you
therefore it is impossible to stab you in the back

i guess you need to play more FFA’s with different groups of people

a general unspoken rule in FFAs, is that moving your troops to attack someone, is almost equal to attacking them.  it literally means: “i will probably attack you next turn, or as soon as my other ally gets into position”

the fact that we sat there without war is meaningless, as the real reason was only that you were waiting for the ottomans to get on board before doing anything

you will find in any FFA or Diplomacy game, that moving all your units up to the border with someone, or taking bordering non-player buffer territories, is a great way to broadcast your intentions and make enemies at the same time

i decided it was not in my interest to wait for my 2 neighbors to be completely ready to kill me, and that it would be better to preemptively kill your fleet while i still could, before the chance to defend myself decently had passed

combine that with some diplomatic moves to convince the ottomans to hold off their eventual war with me for a while, and I bought myself a lifeline for a few turns.

you may forget what a precarious position austria (or any middle power) is in, in a FFA game.  no matter what you do, you can never defend on all your fronts.  to have 2x powers going at you is basically the end of you.
This is true even if you have allies, because you will always be the one losing units, and your allies will always be looking at your undefended backside and planning for the perfect backstab.  Corner powers do not have this disadvantage because their ally isn’t up in their backsides.

Quite literally, the only way for Austria to win, is to ensure that one of their neighbors is an ally, and that they both declare war on another neighbor, while all your other neighbors are distracted or allied or at least stay the heck away from you.  This may sound similar to the strategy for every player in the game, but the main difference for Austria is that the longer the game goes on the worse Austria’s position gets, so Austria must basically eliminate or help to eliminate 1 other player in the first 7-14 rounds or risk losing the chance to win the game forever.

The best I could do after Ottoman and Russia had made up their minds that I was the enemy, was to take 2nd place.

I’ve never given up hope though, and succeeded in getting UK and France to put aside their war (at least for a while anyway) in order to help me survive longer, and also prolong Ottoman’s victory.  I had hoped that I could last long enough to get my income back in shape and still be in the game til it got to 2 players, then still go for gold.

I knew that at some point UK or France would stab me, but I had assumed they would at least do it for a material victory of some kind.  Either a giant TUV swing, or a large set of undefended territories, or the best possible type of stab of winning that turn with VC victory.  When I attacked Russia (not a stab, as I explain above), I completely eliminated the Russian naval threat, claimed Russia’s convoy zone, safeguarded all of sweden from Russia, and got a 100 TUV swing against Russia.  I would have expected France or UK to get a hell of a lot more out of it than France just did.

[Veqryn]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
            9 Artillerys, 2 Charless, 11 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 40 Fusilierss, 8 Grenadierss, 24 Howitzers, 4 Hussarss, 1 Marines and 2 Mortarss moved from Krakow to Galicia
            4 Artillerys, 7 Chasseurss, 33 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 18 Howitzers and 1 Mortars moved from Moravia to Galicia
            1 Charles moved from Brandenburg to Galicia

Purchase Units - AustrianEmpire
            AustrianEmpire buy 3 Charless, 1 Cuirassiers and 4 Dragoonss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - AustrianEmpire
            Battle in Galicia
                AustrianEmpire attack with 13 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 18 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 73 Fusilierss, 10 Grenadierss, 42 Howitzers, 4 Hussarss, 1 Marines and 3 Mortarss
                OttomanEmpire defend with 11 Artillerys, 14 Chasseurss, 8 Dragoonss, 21 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 10 Mahmuds and 1 Mortars; Russia defend with 10 Artillerys, 20 Chasseurss, 8 Cuirassierss, 15 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss, 7 Grenadierss, 4 Howitzers, 17 Kutusovs and 1 Mortars
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 13 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 18 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 73 Fusilierss, 10 Grenadierss, 42 Howitzers, 4 Hussarss, 1 Marines and 3 Mortarss in Galicia, round 1 :  51/173 hits
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 21 Artillerys, 34 Chasseurss, 8 Cuirassierss, 23 Dragoonss, 24 Fusilierss, 7 Grenadierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 4 Howitzers, 17 Kutusovs, 10 Mahmuds and 2 Mortarss in Galicia, round 1 :  52/151 hits
                    1 Horse_Artillery owned by the OttomanEmpire , 4 Hussarss owned by the AustrianEmpire , 1 Mortars owned by the Russia , 10 Artillerys owned by the Russia , 2 Fusilierss owned by the Russia , 48 Fusilierss owned by the AustrianEmpire , 4 Howitzers owned by the Russia , 1 Mortars owned by the OttomanEmpire , 11 Artillerys owned by the OttomanEmpire and 21 Fusilierss owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Galicia
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 13 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 18 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 25 Fusilierss, 10 Grenadierss, 42 Howitzers, 1 Marines and 3 Mortarss in Galicia, round 2 :  41/121 hits
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 34 Chasseurss, 8 Cuirassierss, 23 Dragoonss, 1 Fusiliers, 7 Grenadierss, 17 Kutusovs and 10 Mahmuds in Galicia, round 2 :  48/100 hits
                    2 Chasseurss owned by the OttomanEmpire , 8 Dragoonss owned by the OttomanEmpire , 7 Grenadierss owned by the Russia , 1 Fusiliers owned by the Russia , 8 Cuirassierss owned by the Russia , 25 Fusilierss owned by the AustrianEmpire , 22 Howitzers owned by the AustrianEmpire , 1 Chasseurs owned by the AustrianEmpire and 15 Dragoonss owned by the Russia lost in Galicia
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 13 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 17 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 10 Grenadierss, 20 Howitzers, 1 Marines and 3 Mortarss in Galicia, round 3 :  23/73 hits
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 32 Chasseurss, 17 Kutusovs and 10 Mahmuds in Galicia, round 3 :  25/59 hits
                    12 Chasseurss owned by the OttomanEmpire , 13 Howitzers owned by the AustrianEmpire , 12 Chasseurss owned by the AustrianEmpire and 11 Chasseurss owned by the Russia lost in Galicia
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 13 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 5 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 10 Grenadierss, 7 Howitzers, 1 Marines and 3 Mortarss in Galicia, round 4 :  25/48 hits
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 9 Chasseurss, 17 Kutusovs and 10 Mahmuds in Galicia, round 4 :  23/36 hits
                    1 Marines owned by the AustrianEmpire , 16 Kutusovs owned by the Russia , 4 Artillerys owned by the AustrianEmpire , 7 Howitzers owned by the AustrianEmpire , 5 Chasseurss owned by the AustrianEmpire , 9 Chasseurss owned by the Russia and 6 Dragoonss owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Galicia
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 9 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 10 Grenadierss and 3 Mortarss in Galicia, round 5 :  11/25 hits
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Kutusov and 10 Mahmuds in Galicia, round 5 :  5/11 hits
                    1 Kutusov owned by the Russia , 5 Artillerys owned by the AustrianEmpire and 10 Mahmuds owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Galicia
                AustrianEmpire win, taking Galicia from OttomanEmpire with 4 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 10 Grenadierss and 3 Mortarss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 234
                Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 11 Artillerys, 14 Chasseurss, 8 Dragoonss, 21 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 10 Mahmuds and 1 Mortars
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 9 Artillerys, 18 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 73 Fusilierss, 42 Howitzers, 4 Hussarss and 1 Marines
                Casualties for Russia: 10 Artillerys, 20 Chasseurss, 8 Cuirassierss, 15 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss, 7 Grenadierss, 4 Howitzers, 17 Kutusovs and 1 Mortars

Non Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
            1 General moved from Svealand to SZ6
            1 Barque and 1 General moved from SZ6 to SZ7
            1 General moved from SZ7 to Prussia
            2 Battleships, 2 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 2 Frigates moved from SZ7 to SZ10
            4 Chasseurss, 5 Fusilierss, 1 General, 3 Grenadierss and 3 Howitzers moved from Austria to Moravia
            1 General moved from Moravia to Krakow
            2 Fusilierss and 1 Howitzer moved from Silesia to Moravia
            2 Fusilierss moved from Brandenburg to Silesia
            1 Fusiliers moved from Posen to Silesia
            1 Howitzer moved from Warszowa to Krakow
            3 Fusilierss and 1 Howitzer moved from Svealand to Ostra Gotaland

Place Units - AustrianEmpire
            1 Cuirassiers placed in Moravia
            1 Dragoons placed in Krakow
            3 Charless placed in Brandenburg
            AustrianEmpire undo move 3.
            3 Dragoonss placed in Brandenburg
            AustrianEmpire undo move 3.
            3 Charless placed in Brandenburg
            3 Dragoonss placed in Prussia

Turn Complete - AustrianEmpire
            AustrianEmpire collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs total
            Objective AustrianEmpire destroys TUV: AustrianEmpire met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Territory Summary for AustrianEmpire :

Lappland : 1 flag
    Brandenburg : 1 flag, 3 Charless, 1 Fortress and 1 General
    Svealand : 1 flag
    Silesia : 1 flag, 3 Fusilierss
    Zala : 1 flag, 1 Mortella_Tower
    Hesse : 1 flag
    Galicia : 1 flag, 4 Artillerys, 3 Charless, 10 Grenadierss and 3 Mortarss
    Warszowa : 1 flag
    Austria : 1 flag, 1 Capital and 2 Mortella_Towers
    SZ7 : 1 flag, 1 Barque
    SZ8 : 1 flag
    Moravia : 1 flag, 4 Chasseurss, 1 Cuirassiers, 7 Fusilierss, 1 General, 3 Grenadierss and 4 Howitzers
    Vastra Gotaland : 1 flag
    SZ10 : 1 flag, 2 Battleships, 2 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 2 Frigates
    Krakow : 1 flag, 1 Dragoons, 1 General and 1 Howitzer
    Prussia : 1 flag, 3 Dragoonss, 1 General and 2 Mortella_Towers
    Hollande : 1 flag, 2 Mortella_Towers
    Bavaria : 1 flag
    Magdeburg : 1 flag
    Rhine : 1 flag
    SZ19 : 1 flag, 1 Brigantine
    Ostra Gotaland : 1 flag, 3 Fusilierss and 1 Howitzer
    Lithuania : 1 flag, 3 Fusilierss

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 93 / 95
    UnitedKingdom : 79 / 83
    AustrianEmpire : 49 / 53
    OttomanEmpire : 83 / 89
    Russia : 48 / 59

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 131 times
            2 was rolled 144 times
            3 was rolled 118 times
            4 was rolled 137 times
            5 was rolled 128 times
            6 was rolled 139 times
        Average roll : 3.507
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.541
        Standard Deviation : 0.736
        Total rolls : 797

OttomanEmpire Combat
            1 was rolled 64 times
            2 was rolled 63 times
            3 was rolled 53 times
            4 was rolled 69 times
            5 was rolled 56 times
            6 was rolled 52 times
        Average roll : 3.409
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 0.660
        Standard Deviation : 0.812
        Total rolls : 357

AustrianEmpire Combat
            1 was rolled 67 times
            2 was rolled 81 times
            3 was rolled 65 times
            4 was rolled 68 times
            5 was rolled 72 times
            6 was rolled 87 times
        Average roll : 3.586
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.879
        Standard Deviation : 0.938
        Total rolls : 440

[lexgreat]

Veq, that this is just a game aside for now (all this is strictly within the game and not personal), pls dont lecture me regarding such games. I dont know how long you play things like Diplomacy ,probably for a long time, as do I. And not in all games do I find that a win is the most satisfying outcome, or possible at all due to this or that. And also, twist it like you want to, I told you that as long as you dont attack my territories, I wont attack yours. I kept my word, and you have no way to prove your theories, only wishful thinking. According to you its a given that anyone attacks in this situation, 100% of the time. Prove it that it would have been so in this game. Its your perception, it is what you expected, fine, no problem with that, but its nothing more than that. And it never happened. I also do not mind that you took preemptive measures, thats totally normal. But it made you the agressor, made it impossible to prove your expectation, and made me an implacable enemy. Thats all, and in hindishgt I am glad that I did not waste a lot of units on Scandinavian adventures….who knows what else would not have been in your best interest. Not taking under-defended Russian territories, maybe ;)

[Noll]

More than winning, my best interest is to support the powers that deserve my trust. If we check it from a Victory Cities points, the one that is in better position at the moment is the UK. And with the last Austrian attack (the suicide attack that left Vienna empty), The United Kingon is in great position of attacking and expanding in Russia alone. So as for now everything looks like Austria is a puppet state of UK.

I guess it’s a good play on the UK’s side.

[Noll]

Here’s a pic of France

[Veqryn]

It was not meant as an insult, I truly thought you were new to this sort of thing.

And of course everything is just within this game.  I play a lot of games like Diplomacy and it is impossible to keep your head on straight if you take all your enemies and allies from a finished game into a newly starting game.  If I ever play a game with any of you guys again, it is a clean slate in my mind.  This might be my first game with most of you, but I’ve played with Noll before and like him quite a bit in our other games and look forward to more games with him and you all.

My opinions previously posted were the opinions of a rather frustrated Austria after being betrayed (but maybe not stabbed) by france, and overall in a bad situation regardless.  Treat them as such.

I feel that I should also add that certain movements and builds often do constitute war, and the actual declaration of war is merely a stamp on it.  An example would be France building navy in the english channel and marines in Paris.  
For Austria, the things you did taken as a whole were almost the same as that (taking the neutral buffer right by prussia, moving your whole army to my front, building a navy in the baltic, putting down factories directly across our border [minsk]).  Throw in the fact that you rejected all my offerings and diplomatic offers and private messages, and the fact that you also rejected various offers from me to draw-down and move-back our troops, either slowly or all at once.  You really can not blame me for seeing war coming on the horizon led by you.  So if you give me a 10 on the aggresso-meter, you surely deserve an 8 or 9 for pushing me into it.  After all, if you didn’t want a war, you could have just moved back a space or shown even the smallest amount of interest in working with me on even humble matters.

[lexgreat]

Good game Veq, so far  :wink:

[Veqryn]

@alexgreat:

Good game Veq, so far  :wink:

glad you like it

though i can’t take credit for all of it.  most of the art as well as the background map were done by lssah

[Gekkepop]

Yeah the map still has a couple of issues (the political system is weird and the FFA doesn’t seem very balanced) but it’s a lot of fun.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers moved from Hungary to Zala
            2 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 7 Fusilierss moved from Slavonia to Zala
            1 Artillery, 1 Dragoons and 10 Fusilierss moved from Bulgaria to Moldavia
            2 Dragoonss moved from Macedonia to Moldavia
            2 Dragoonss moved from Hellas to Macedonia
            3 Dragoonss moved from Kiutayeh to Lazes
            1 Mahmud moved from Serbia to Kiutayeh
            2 Artillerys and 7 Fusilierss moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria
            1 Dragoons moved from Constantinople to Moldavia
            5 Artillerys, 3 Chasseurss and 7 Fusilierss moved from Serbia to Slavonia
            1 Mahmud moved from Croatia to Salzburg
                  OttomanEmpire take Salzburg from AustrianEmpire
            1 Mahmud moved from Salzburg to Slovenia
            4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss moved from Slovenia to Austria

Purchase Units - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire buy 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss and 8 Mahmuds; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - OttomanEmpire
            Battle in Austria
                OttomanEmpire attack with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Capital and 2 Mortella_Towers
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Austria, round 1 :  3/17 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 2 Mortella_Towers in Austria, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 Mortella_Towers owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Austria
                OttomanEmpire destroys 53PUs while taking AustrianEmpire capital
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Austria from AustrianEmpire with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 2 Mortella_Towers
            Battle in Zala
                OttomanEmpire attack with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Mortella_Tower
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Zala, round 1 :  5/16 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Mortella_Tower in Zala, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Mortella_Tower owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Zala
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Zala from AustrianEmpire with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 1 Mortella_Tower

Non Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 General moved from Serbia to Slavonia
            1 General moved from Croatia to Slovenia
            16 Artillerys, 13 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 10 Mariness moved from Slovenia to Zala
            7 Chasseurss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            3 Chasseurss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            1 Mahmud moved from Croatia to Austria

Place Units - OttomanEmpire
            2 Mahmuds placed in Slovenia
            1 Artillery placed in Slavonia
            3 Fusilierss placed in Constantinople
            3 Mahmuds placed in Kiutayeh
            3 Mahmuds placed in Anatolia

Turn Complete - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire collect 94 PUs; end with 94 PUs total
            Objective OttomanEmpire destroys TUV: OttomanEmpire met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 98 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by OttomanEmpire from Umbria: 2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by OttomanEmpire to Slovenia: 2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by OttomanEmpire to SZ55: 1 Barque, 9 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 5 Cutters and 4 Frigates
            EDIT: Adding units owned by OttomanEmpire to Oran: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
            EDIT: Removing units owned by OttomanEmpire from SZ59: 1 Barque, 9 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 5 Cutters, 4 Frigates, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 93 / 95
    UnitedKingdom : 79 / 83
    AustrianEmpire : 38 / 0
    OttomanEmpire : 94 / 98
    Russia : 48 / 59

[wheatbeer]

I forgot to use all my ships, had to use EDIT to transport men from Italy and to move the main fleet.

[Gekkepop]

Savegame would not open for me, probably due to the edits. Not sure if Alex is going to have the same problem but it seems likely.

[lexgreat]

Right, I cannot load the game, Wheat.

[wheatbeer]

Sorry about that  :oops:  I’ll redo it.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers moved from Hungary to Zala
            2 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 7 Fusilierss moved from Slavonia to Zala

Purchase Units - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire buy 1 Artillery, 3 Fusilierss and 8 Mahmuds; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - OttomanEmpire
            Battle in Austria
                OttomanEmpire attack with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Capital and 2 Mortella_Towers
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Austria, round 1 :  6/17 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 2 Mortella_Towers in Austria, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 Mortella_Towers owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Austria
                OttomanEmpire destroys 53PUs while taking AustrianEmpire capital
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Austria from AustrianEmpire with 4 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 2 Mortella_Towers
            Battle in Zala
                OttomanEmpire attack with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss
                AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Mortella_Tower
                    OttomanEmpire roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss in Zala, round 1 :  1/16 hits
                    AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Mortella_Tower in Zala, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Mortella_Tower owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Zala
                OttomanEmpire win, taking Zala from AustrianEmpire with 3 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss and 8 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 1 Mortella_Tower

Non Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
            1 Barque, 9 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 5 Cutters, 4 Frigates, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ59 to SZ55
            3 Dragoonss moved from Kiutayeh to Lazes
            7 Barques moved from SZ77 to SZ76
            2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from Umbria to SZ76
            7 Barques, 2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from SZ76 to SZ77
            1 Artillery, 1 Dragoons and 10 Fusilierss moved from Bulgaria to Moldavia
            1 Dragoons moved from Constantinople to Moldavia
            2 Artillerys and 7 Fusilierss moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria
            2 Dragoonss moved from Macedonia to Moldavia
            1 Mahmud moved from Serbia to Kiutayeh
            5 Artillerys, 3 Chasseurss, 7 Fusilierss and 1 General moved from Serbia to Slavonia
            2 Dragoonss moved from Hellas to Macedonia
            16 Artillerys, 13 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 10 Mariness moved from Slovenia to Zala
            10 Chasseurss moved from Slovenia to Austria
            2 Mahmuds moved from Croatia to Austria
            1 General moved from Croatia to Slovenia
            2 Fusilierss and 5 Howitzers moved from SZ77 to Slovenia

Place Units - OttomanEmpire
            3 Mahmuds placed in Kiutayeh
            3 Mahmuds placed in Anatolia
            1 Mahmud placed in Slavonia
            2 Fusilierss placed in Slovenia
            1 Artillery, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Mahmud placed in Constantinople

Turn Complete - OttomanEmpire
            OttomanEmpire collect 92 PUs; end with 92 PUs total
            Objective OttomanEmpire destroys TUV: OttomanEmpire met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 96 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 93 / 95
    UnitedKingdom : 79 / 83
    AustrianEmpire : 40 / 0
    OttomanEmpire : 92 / 96
    Russia : 48 / 59

[lexgreat]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires: FFA 5 Player, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - Russia
            1 Battleship and 1 Brigantine moved from SZ53 to SZ49

Purchase Units - Russia
            Russia buy 7 Fortresss and 1 Kutusov; Remaining resources: 15 PUs;

Non Combat Move - Russia
            2 Artillerys, 5 Chasseurss, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 1 Grenadiers moved from Novgorod to Moscovia
            1 Artillery, 1 General and 1 Grenadiers moved from Smolensk to Moscovia
            4 Chasseurss and 1 Howitzer moved from Severia to Moscovia
            1 Cuirassiers moved from Mordvins to Moscovia
            1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Fusiliers moved from Astrakahn to Tsaritsyn
            1 Fusiliers moved from Georgia to Astrakahn
            1 General moved from Georgia to Astrakahn

Place Units - Russia
            7 Fortresss placed in Moscovia
            1 Kutusov placed in Astrakahn

Turn Complete - Russia
            Russia collect 48 PUs; end with 63 PUs total

[lexgreat]

Round 20:

Russia does nothing: