XDAP - 02 Final Draft (Axis) vs Dairy Qryn (Allies)

[Gargantua]

Defend Italy against what?

The ENTIRE British fleet in the pacific?  Which is 1 destroyer…

[Cow]

Anyway france’s destroyer is attacking your carrier. Scramble orders? OOL?

[Cow]

pretty nuts, but the fate of this game rests on 1 destroyer vs 1 carrier and a fighter.

[Cow]

no choice got to do it.

[Cow]

maybe that attack would be a bad idea. considering that destroyer could kill a japan sub lingering around.

[Cow]

1 in 100 games it is brilliant idea.

[satinpurplefender]

60% of the time it works every time

[Gargantua]

I scramble in 97. Obviously.

[Veqryn]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in 21 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 cruiser
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 21 Sea Zone
                ANZAC win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 fighter moved from India to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
            1 aaGun moved from South Australia to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

India : 1 flag, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    Queensland : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    New South Wales : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    South Australia : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
    21 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser
    54 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 fighter and 1 transport
    62 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    Egypt : 1 flag, 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 79
    Russians : 40 / 55
    Japanese : 58 / 67
    Americans : 52 / 72
    Chinese : 11 / 17
    British : 20 / 0
    UK_Pacific : 7 / 7
    Italians : 16 / 16
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[satinpurplefender]

Minor point of contention here. My mother always said I should have been a lawyer, and said lawyer is begging to know. It may just be a custom/courtesy thing, so please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

I am asking purely for personal knowledge, so I know that it is/isn’t normal for forum play.

1. Asking scramble orders out of turn: I know France is going right after ANZAC, and in this case, no real difference is made by ANZAC’s turn. Wouldn’t information based on premeditated attacks affect some turns?

I know Garg didn’t HAVE TO answer, so that may just be our problem for responding.

2. Does declaring an attack and asking for scramble orders not bind you to that action?

It seems to me that asking for scramble orders implies that attack is inbound.

Further confusion for me was caused because I didn’t realize it was asked out of turn order. lol

[Cow]

Good point it does bind us to it. I did ask, but not my country, really wanted it to attack honestly.

[Cow]

Yes of course he scrambles, it is a lone dd, just asking for expedience.

Did the numbers on it. Since we are just hoping for two hits, about 1.3% for that.

If there is a round to go crazy, this would be it.  Russia attacks with 22 inf against 12 inf 2 tank (a battle you win big or lose big with very little inbetween results). If that carrier is dead to french dd or to uk’s air, I won’t get blocked by an Italy carrier and destroyer from taking italy.

I am in the mood to go nuts, but I can wait.

They are not my countries and I am USA, the country that is supposed to be on standby, till things happen, then it goes nuts.

[Cow]

me and veqryn in a debate over this, but it is not my place to tell him what to do. which is go nuts lol.

[Veqryn]

the next time cow plays france, he is bound to attack a carrier with a destroyer

i however, am not going to do this attack

and there was no need to ask at all.  of course the fighter ‘would’ be scrambled.

[Veqryn]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :4

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria

Turn Complete - French

[Gargantua]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :5

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 9 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 destroyer and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 :  0/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
                Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 125 Sea Zone
                Germans win, taking 125 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            9 armour and 2 artilleries moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            9 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 2 carriers and 11 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 2 artilleries moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            7 armour moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Southern Italy

Place Units - Germans
            2 infantry placed in France
            3 fighters placed in Western Germany
            7 infantry placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 3.
            1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
            6 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs

[Cow]

Damn forcing me to do one thing, I can do another if I am lucky. This is so sick.

[dutchmand]

Moo, not looking so good for the Allies. Moo.

[Veqryn]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Future, version: 3.1

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Greece
                  Russians take Bulgaria from Germans
                  Russians take Greece from Italians

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys in Eastern Poland, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
                Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Russians attack with 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun
                    1 aaGun owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
                Russians win, taking Yugoslavia from Germans with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tsagaan Olom to Olgiy
            2 aaGuns and 17 infantry moved from Yenisey to Olgiy
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Romania
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Finland to Novgorod
            1 mech_infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk

Place Units - Russians
            2 bombers placed in Russia
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            4 infantry placed in Russia
            1 infantry placed in Novgorod
            Russians undo move 4.
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Novgorod: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Karelia: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Karelia: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 57 PUs

Territory Summary for Russians :

Olgiy : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns and 22 infantry
    Tsagaan Olom : 1 flag
    Trans-Jordan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Egypt : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Romania : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys
    Belarus : 1 flag, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Karelia : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
    Bryansk : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
    Bessarabia : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Russia : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major and 4 infantry
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Vologda : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Volgograd : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    113 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    Greece : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Iraq : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag
    Persia : 1 flag
    115 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Finland : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 50
    Russians : 45 / 57
    Japanese : 58 / 67
    Americans : 52 / 72
    Chinese : 11 / 17
    British : 20 / 0
    UK_Pacific : 7 / 7
    Italians : 14 / 16
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Cow]

It is a tight game still. Income is pretty even.