• They all had flaws…
    Washington had slaves(not dealt with in his day).
    Jefferson had slaves(not dealt with in his day) and MAY have had chilun by slaves.
    Lincoln took the country to war over something that was STATES’ RIGHTS.

    That has more to do with personal life than foreign and domestic policy. Well, except for that Lincoln, but as a Confederate, we can go over States’ Rights later. Looks like he didn’t…

    FDR knew the war was coming, so he manipulated the majority (isolationist) into a position where they could not refuse(not a great orator).

    Refuse to?

    Xi - He tried to manage the war. That’s what we got military leaders for . . . They militate and he presides( )

    Not only that, but his programs under the Great Society too.

    Xi - CONGRATS! You A&Amonger, you.

    Yep, we can’t let all the Capitalist and Liberals have all the fun, can we? :)

    For example, his fancy lawyers have announced he can legally go into Iraq without a word from Congress. And you can be sure he will if Congress denies him.

    Nah, our President made a recent public statement that he would not make a bid for Iraq unless he first pleaded his case in front of the US Congress and too the World (esp. those Middle Easterns and Europeans)

    Xi - JFK is overrated due to his assassination. Although, he did lower taxes and this got the economy going

    Maybe. But like you said, he did a good job on the Economy. He even brought those Corporate CEOs and Execs in line when they wouldn’t comply (esp. those steel plants).

    Xi - I concur

    John Adams will never be forgotten! :)


  • Nixon! :D WhooHooo!!!

    (JK) :wink:

    I think that after JFK died the character of those in the White House went way downhill. (I’m still not convinced how good he was though either.)They all had something about them that sucked. However, W. is a breath of fresh air. (BTW I might get myself into the habit of posting “Boo” every time somebody posts Bl C***n’s name without censoring it! :-? )


  • Oh yeah…! If I didn’t have moral reservations (and I know we’re talking post WW2 here) I would desecrate FDR’s grave, and write a bad chapter for him in every school history book in America! He has done more to create a socialistic and decrepit society in the U.S. than any one president I know of. :evil: No apologys!


  • woooo…that sounds pretty harsh. :o


  • He has done more to create a socialistic and decrepit society in the U.S. than any one president I know of. No apologys!

    Nah, as a communist, I’m afraid that his policys didn’t go far enough. His was manly a remedy for capitalism/democracy when all other major governments were going downhill during the great Depression (Germany, Italy, ect).


  • Yanny Said:

    Clinton, obvious reasons.

    Do enlighten us as to these ‘obvious’ reasons why he was one of the best presidents in your opinion.


  • Yanny, are you a capitalist? Because if you are, there is NO reason why you should think that Jimmy Carter did anything good for our economy… He was a very moral man, but he also taxed and regulated everything he could. Unempoyment was through the roof and gas prices were insane. He also cut the defense budget by BILLIONS of dollars. Liberals, close your ears, RONALD REAGAN had to come in with A) Large, across-the-board, tax cuts to revive the economy and B) spend $1 TRILLION on defense in just four years… THEN the Soviets fell…


  • Defense spending for a war that never came…

    The Soviets were on the way down already.


  • You go, bang_!

    Y’ster, tis better to spend for a war that never comes, than to war without spending.
    –---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I watched gas go from $0.249 per gallon to $0.769 per gallon in one Jimmy Carter year, cannot remember specific year, just that it was summer to summer). - Xi


  • to secure peace is to prepare for war?
    something like that?


  • A famous line used to be . . .

    “Peace through superior firepower.”

    However, I believe it would better said . . .

    “Peace through the proper use of superior firepower.(BOOM!)”

    :lol: - Xi


  • FDR took 12 years + to get the US out of the Depression.
    :oops: ,WRONG! FDR used socialism/communism(CCC & WPA) to keep us occupied.
    As a matter of fact, WWII got the US out of the Depression. - Xi

    “As for courage and will - we cannot measure how much of each
    lies within us, we can only trust there will be sufficient to
    carry through trials which may lie ahead.” - Andre Norton


  • FDR took 12 years + to get the US out of the Depression.
    :oops: ,WRONG! FDR used socialism/communism(CCC & WPA) to keep us occupied.
    As a matter of fact, WWII got the US out of the Depression. - Xi

    “As for courage and will - we cannot measure how much of each
    lies within us, we can only trust there will be sufficient to
    carry through trials which may lie ahead.” - Andre Norton


  • Yanny, why do you like Clinton so much?

    WW2 would have come with any president who would not bend over for the Japanese


  • Yanny, why do you like Clinton so much?

    WW2 would have come with any president who would not bend over for the Japanese.

    Also remember that FDR suspended habeus Corpus in order to practice racism. No wonder who ever likes him likes him


  • What’s with all the double posting, guys?

    FDR took 12 years + to get the US out of the Depression.
    ,WRONG! FDR used socialism/communism(CCC & WPA) to keep us occupied.
    As a matter of fact, WWII got the US out of the Depression. - Xi

    He didn’t go far enough.


  • Who ever said I liked Clinton? I just hate Reagan. Horrible President.


  • Reagan wasn’t that bad of a president. He actually did a lot to help this country.


  • Why was Reagan so horrible? Or was that just an accusation to toss out there?


  • Yea, seems that way to me Jazz… :D

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