@lagouyn
You never control a sea zone.
Sea zones are either friendly (contain no enemy surface warship) or hostile (contain enemy surface warship(s)).
The result of a sea battle is that you have cleared it of enemy units (or not).
Battleplans
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Ac is one hit. Germany has many options to sink that ship.
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versus germany or japan? i think japan can be vulnerable… but germany is so strong, certainly with extra 7 from Russia (makes them around 19, lolz)
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German opening moves:
Builds: 4 Infantry or 2 infantry and 1 tank.
- SZ 16 DD and SS to SZ 14, bring in fighter from Italy and Bomber from Germany.
- SZ 4 SS to SZ 5, BB and SS from Black sea to SZ 5, with both fighters from Western Europe and Germany.
- AP drops off 2 men in North Africa, plus land one fighter for defense. AP position will depend on what happens to attack on SZ 14
Eastern Front: Not sure about turn order…but I assume Russia goes first?
- Russia builds 2 units probably 2 infantry, or 1 Artillery and 1 infantry.
- They will most likely attack West Russia -option #1- and or Finland with West Russia as- option #2.
- West Russia only attack would be all units in range, except 1-2 infantry left in Karelia. Finland attack will be 1 fighter and 3 infantry. If they go all in at West Russia, all builds go in Caucasus.
This leaves Germany with taking Caucasus and or Karelia or risking a even battle against West Russia.
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Russia turn 1
Buy 2 infantry.
At least 4 infantry and 1 Fighter hit West Russia. Fighter lands in Caucus. Have the tank in caucus and 3 infantry in the east hit Manchuria. This gives you a total of 10 IPC first round, which I’m guessing you will desperately need. The remaining units that can make it should go to Karelia, place the 2 inf in caucus when they spawn. Move the sub to SZ 8 and block the German Baltic fleet from hitting the british fleet. This means if the german player really wants to take out those ships he’ll have to use planes that he cant use on you when he makes his massive move with that massive army.
Now the whole manchuria move is a speculated crazy strategy that if it works will give you the added boost to help hold of Germany for a turn or two more, and make japan divide their forces. I’ll have to play test it, but it seems possible.
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Japan first turn: I assume UK plays first
Builds: 3 Infantry
Combat moves:
Move home fleet to Hawaii SZ with BB, CV with 2 planes, plus AP and tank and infantry. Invade Hawaii and take out US BB
Send remaining fleet ( minus the AP off coastal china) to destroy UK fleet: 2 DD, 1 SS, 1 CV ( not carrier fighter), also bring in fighter from japan.
One infantry to North western China
Bomber and 2 infantry, plus fighter from carrier to Szechuan.
Next turn you must buy a transport and men and prepare for India and Borneo or against Russia. You will have 1 AP in sea of Japan ready for transport. The other transport can bring back the tank to Manchuria and pick up the third Infantry build ( leave the Infantry at Hawaii).
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UK first turn:
Builds: 4 Infantry ( place mostly India if not all)
Combat moves:
1)UK SS to Hawaii, forcing Japan less options against Hawaii. With any luck, the balance of US forces can exchange off a go large attempt from Japanese which favors a nation with more income.
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AP from SZ 33 to SZ 28 for flexible pickup to from India in future.
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1 fighter and 1 DD attacks Japanese Sub and DD.
Strategy in Europe depends largely on what success Germany has against UK fleet. Obviously consolidate fleet
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@Imperious:
German opening moves:
Builds: 4 Infantry or 2 infantry and 1 tank.
- SZ 16 DD and SS to SZ 14, bring in fighter from Italy and Bomber from Germany.
- SZ 4 SS to SZ 5, BB and SS from Black sea to SZ 5, with both fighters from Western Europe and Germany.
- AP drops off 2 men in North Africa, plus land one fighter for defense. AP position will depend on what happens to attack on SZ 14
Eastern Front:  Not sure about turn order�but I assume Russia goes first?
- Russia builds 2 units probably 2 infantry, or 1 Artillery and 1 infantry.
- They will most likely attack West Russia -option #1- and or Finland with West Russia as- option #2.
- West Russia only attack would be all units in range, except 1-2 infantry left in Karelia. Finland attack will be 1 fighter and 3 infantry. If they go all in at West Russia, all builds go in Caucasus.
This leaves Germany with taking Caucasus and or Karelia or risking a even battle against West Russia.
i think you should have another look at the map. 1 sub, 2 figs vs battleship and sub is bit risky, so i’d add bomber there. not attacking egypt is okay, but don’t expect to hold north africa: brits can match your forces + add bomber and such. norway and finland is 2 inf vs 3 rus, you lose the fighter if you send it there from moscow. most likely attacks will be west russia, perhaps with ukraine or manchuria. artillery is not (yet?) included, but i’d include it as houserule. and don’t forget; if germany uses all air vs the russian they can smash it in 1 or 2 rounds…
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@Imperious:
UK first turn:
Builds: 4 Infantry ( place mostly India if not all)
Combat moves:
1)UK SS to Hawaii, forcing Japan less options against Hawaii. With any luck, the balance of US forces can exchange off a go large attempt from Japanese which favors a nation with more income.
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AP from SZ 33 to SZ 28 for flexible pickup to from India in future.
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1 fighter and 1 DD attacks Japanese Sub and DD.
Strategy in Europe depends largely on what success Germany has against UK fleet. Obviously consolidate fleet
england going first (before japan) would be quite interesting, but i have little hope. i think it’s the turnorder of the AA50-41 game.
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@Frontovik:
england going first (before japan) would be quite interesting, but i have little hope. i think it’s the turnorder of the AA50-41 game.
No, Djensen said the turn order was like in Classic and Revised: Russia, Germany, England, Japan, USA.
Just realized something else about this game: NO Anti-Aircraft defense. Now you almost never have to risk your planes, especially in land battles.
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@Frontovik:
england going first (before japan) would be quite interesting, but i have little hope. i think it’s the turnorder of the AA50-41 game.
No, Djensen said the turn order was like in Classic and Revised: Russia, Germany, England, Japan, USA.
Just realized something else about this game: NO Anti-Aircraft defense. Now you almost never have to risk your planes, especially in land battles.
sure? sounds weird…
japan attacked first, and didn’t get attacked. true thing about the AA gun. -
German revised opening moves:
Builds: 4 Infantry or 2 infantry and 1 tank. ( place all in Germany)
Western Front:
Goal: Kill the most costly assets with the minimal loss from counterattack.- Attack SZ 8 with: Battleship and sub from Baltic, and sub from SZ 5.Also, bring in Bomber from Germany. ( 4+2+2+4 vs.4+1) 12 to 5 or 2:1
- Attack SZ 15 with 3 fighters from Western Europe, Southern Europe and Germany. (3+3+3+2+2 vs. 4+2) Alternate is leave DD in SZ 16 to protect AP, making it 3/3/3/2 vs. 4/2 nearly 2:1 attack
- Optional attack: bring AP to land 2 men in Egypt and bring in tank in North Africa and fighter out of SZ 15 attack: 3/3/1/1 vs. 2/2/4 8 vs. 8 ( not advisable)…Note: you cant bring in Bomber or you lose battle #1.
- NCM –AP drops off 1 man and 1 tank in North Africa, plus land three fighters for defense. AP position will depend on what happens to attack on SZ 14 ( either 15,16 or 17 depending on outcome of battle)
- NCM --Move 5 infantry to France, Bomber lands in south Europe…attack on Egypt is G2 plan with all air and 4 Infantry, then air units go to Eastern Front.
Notes: If the UK player clears the German SS and DD in SZ 14 ( assume they bring in 1 fighter and 1 DD),UK can bring 2 tanks, 1 bomber, 1 fighters, and 2 infantry to North Africa, but they lose the transport and 1 fighter ( left in Egypt) and factory in India on G2 if they try that. The battle will be: 3/3/4/3/1/1 vs. 1/3/3/3/3/3 which is 15 vs.16. Note: setup picture does not have one additional German tank in North Afrika.
Eastern Front Soviet notes:
Goal: Make the Soviets defend everywhere and nowhere.Threaten karelia, West Russia, Caucasus at same time and latter kill them by land grab.- Note: Russia builds 2 units probably 2 infantry ( they place in Caucasus and or Moscow).
- Soviets will most likely attack West Russia -option #1- and or Finland with West Russia as- option #2.
- West Russia only attack would be all units in range, except 1-2 infantry left in Karelia. Finland attack will be 1 fighter and 3 infantry. If they go all in at West Russia, all builds go in Caucasus.
This leaves Germany with taking Caucasus and or Karelia or risking a even battle against West Russia.
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Alternative Japan first turn:
Builds: 1 AP, save 2 (place all in Japan)
Combat moves:
- Attack Hawaii with BB, CV, and 2 fighters and Bomber from Japan ( bomber lands in japan in range of India J2) 4/1/3/3 vs. 4. USA counter is 3/3/3/4/2 vs. 4/4/4/2 (15 v.14)
1.1 You could also go two fighters and 1 bomber against Hawaii, making a counter harder. either keep fleet in sea of Japan, or move to SZ 38 - Attack UK fleet off India with 2 fighters ( Fighter from Japan also lands on Carrier), plus DD, CV. 3/3/2/1 vs. 2
- Attack UK fleet off Australia with 1 sub and 1 DD ( 2/2 vs. 1)
NCM AP picks up Tank and 1 Infantry to Southeast Asia, Keep 2 infantry in Coastal China with AP in sea zone. They will be used against India J2.
Land one fighter ( the one from japanese India attack fleet in Southeast Asia ( to fight against possible northern targets and you only need one fighter on CV anyway)Plan J2 is to bring 2 fighters, 1 bomber, 5 Infantry and 1 Tank to India
Next turn you must buy a transport and men and prepare for India and Borneo or against Russia. You will have 1 AP in sea of Japan ready for transport. The other transport can bring back the tank to Manchuria and pick up the third Infantry build ( leave the Infantry at Hawaii).
Note: for J2 you can bring the Hawaii fleet to Australia and possibly bring one transport from southeast Asia with 1-2 infantry to Australia, tasking both UK factories. You will have 3/3/1 vs. 2 and possibly 2/2 if 2/2 bring 2 infantry to Australia unless India looks built up.
Note: for J3 you either bring fleet to protect Japan ( if USA looks to Europe), if not take Borneo/East Indies/ Philippines/Hawaii
- Attack Hawaii with BB, CV, and 2 fighters and Bomber from Japan ( bomber lands in japan in range of India J2) 4/1/3/3 vs. 4. USA counter is 3/3/3/4/2 vs. 4/4/4/2 (15 v.14)
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Russia Revised:
Build 2 Infantry, save 1 ( builds go in Caucasus)
- Attack West Russia with 3 karelia Infantry, plus Fighter and Moscow tank, aim to hit 2 units and retreat back to Moscow.
- Movement of forces will depend on outcome in #1, if you yield 3 hits in first round, you will need to avoid temptation of piling up in West Russia because Germany can destroy that force with combined attack. Must keep Caucasus and obviously Moscow, so leave karelia en prise.
NCM Sub to SZ 6
NCM bring at least 1 infantry to Urals…maintain balance so if they leave one man, withdraw two men to Ural.
NCM UK may request 1 tank and or fighter to protect against J2 India invasion: resist that -
UK Revised:
Builds: UK1-4 infantry ( place one in India, 2 in Australia, and 1 in UK), UK2 build Carrier to replace lost CV.
Note: Get Soviet SS to shadow UK replacement fleet on UK2.
- Attack Japanese fleet of Southeast Asia with 1 DD, 1 SS, and 1 Fighter
- Destroy German BB fleet with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, and 1 DD
NCM bring one Infantry in Australia to Mid East SZ 28 ( note: don’t do this if Germany puts planes in North Africa or Bomber within 4 spaces of SZ 28) If that is true bring both AP to SZ 27 or one to SZ 27 and the other to SZ 34 ( goal is to bring men to Borneo and India with AP on UK2 and build up more in Australia and India.
NCM bring tank to India
NCM bring both infantry to Middle East
NCM Union of SA move north
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@Imperious:
German revised opening moves:
Builds: 4 Infantry or 2 infantry and 1 tank. ( place all in Germany)
Western Front:
Goal: Kill the most costly assets with the minimal loss from counterattack.- Attack SZ 8 with: Battleship and sub from Baltic, and sub from SZ 5.Also, bring in Bomber from Germany. ( 4+2+2+4 vs.4+1) 12 to 5 or 2:1
- Attack SZ 15 with 3 fighters from Western Europe, Southern Europe and Germany. (3+3+3+2+2 vs. 4+2) Alternate is leave DD in SZ 16 to protect AP, making it 3/3/3/2 vs. 4/2 nearly 2:1 attack
- Optional attack: bring AP to land 2 men in Egypt and bring in tank in North Africa and fighter out of SZ 15 attack: 3/3/1/1 vs. 2/2/4Â 8 vs. 8 ( not advisable)…Note: you cant bring in Bomber or you lose battle #1.
- NCM –AP drops off 1 man and 1 tank in North Africa, plus land three fighters for defense. AP position will depend on what happens to attack on SZ 14 ( either 15,16 or 17 depending on outcome of battle)
- NCM --Move 5 infantry to France, Bomber lands in south Europe…attack on Egypt is G2 plan with all air and 4 Infantry, then air units go to Eastern Front.
Notes: If the UK player clears the German SS and DD in SZ 14 ( assume they bring in 1 fighter and 1 DD),UK can bring 2 tanks, 1 bomber, 1 fighters, and 2 infantry to North Africa, but they lose the transport and 1 fighter ( left in Egypt) and factory in India on G2 if they try that. The battle will be: 3/3/4/3/1/1 vs. 1/3/3/3/3/3 which is 15 vs.16. Â Note: setup picture does not have one additional German tank in North Afrika.
Eastern Front Soviet notes:
Goal: Make the Soviets defend everywhere and nowhere.Threaten karelia, West Russia, Caucasus at same time and latter kill them by land grab.- Note: Russia builds 2 units probably 2 infantry, or 1 Artillery and 1 infantry. ( they place in Caucasus and or Moscow).
- Soviets will most likely attack West Russia -option #1- and or Finland with West Russia as- option #2.
- West Russia only attack would be all units in range, except 1-2 infantry left in Karelia. Finland attack will be 1 fighter and 3 infantry. If they go all in at West Russia, all builds go in Caucasus.
This leaves Germany with taking Caucasus and or Karelia or risking a even battle against West Russia.
german battleship can’t reach british battleship. so you can easily use bomber in egypt then ^^
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@Frontovik:
german battleship can’t reach british battleship. so you can easily use bomber in egypt then ^^
German battleship is 2 spaces away from UK battleship so it can reach.
Assuming you can go south of sz6 between Scotland and Ireland
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@Frontovik:
german battleship can’t reach british battleship. so you can easily use bomber in egypt then ^^
German battleship is 2 spaces away from UK battleship so it can reach.
Assuming you can go south of sz6 between Scotland and Ireland
assuming or presuming?
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@Frontovik:
@Frontovik:
german battleship can’t reach british battleship. so you can easily use bomber in egypt then ^^
German battleship is 2 spaces away from UK battleship so it can reach.
Assuming you can go south of sz6 between Scotland and Ireland
assuming or presuming?
They are the same thing. Unless you are trying to nitpick some historical meaning, if so then I am assuming as I have seen the map,but axis and allies has had sz connection confusion in the past.
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@Imperious:
- Note: Russia builds 2 units probably 2 infantry, or 1 Artillery and 1 infantry.
Looks like Artillery is included on 41 after all ;)
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Typo corrected and it is a great plan.
german battleship can’t reach british battleship.
Also, German Baltic fleet goes to SZ 6 then SZ 8. It can reach.
Subs work the same as A&A 1942.
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