L12G4Karl7(Axis)v.Gamerman(Allies)+Tech

[gamerman01]

@Karl7:

so any thoughts re: Hawaii attack?Â

looking at it again after a couple days its no where near a slam dunk for Japan…… 8-)

That’s encouraging to hear.  Sorry to say I haven’t even looked at it seriously yet since you finished Japan - just that quick once over.  I do want to play - owe some other guys a move or two but am hoping to move tomorrow.

Will have to look at different possibilities - 1) completely blocking you now with destroyers (without a lot of study I’m thinking this is not in my best interests)

Try to prevent takeover of Hawaii on the next Japan turn, allowing an attack, and of course also setting up an attack to take it back again or

Let you take it over and set up to take it back (but then you will be set up to take it back again….)

Without a lot of study I’m thinking it’s gonna be option 2

I will also have to decide whether to try and reinforce Hawaii with men, planes, both, or whether to concentrate on fleet - trying to prevent you from holding Z26.  Without a lot of study, I’m thinking with my very small fleet it’s going to be more effective to concentrate on airplanes that can also hop to Australia, rather than buying a bunch of boats that will probably just be overpowered by you in future turns anyway…

But we’ll both find out after I study for an hour or so!  And maybe USA will get another tech  :-)

[Karl7]

no doubt you got a firm understanding of the possibilities….  aye… if its any consolation, I am anxious as you to see what you do…  I wont lie that sz31 is a temptation…  if it goes well, good for you.  If it goes bad… disaster for you…

[gamerman01]

I agreed to be a substitute partner to Jim010 in another global game (playing Japan) and finally got the J3 figured out and done, so will be turning my attention back to this….  but I’m leaving for work for the day now
Tonight at the earliest… have a good one Karl  :-)

[Karl7]

No prob.  This is a big move.  I looked at it again last night.  I see that norther italy may become an allied bastion, especially if the US/UK moves in.  Those 4 ftrs in Greece would do it for sure.

poor Italy….  :cry:

[gamerman01]

US10 with 77, buy a researcherRolling 1:
(4)

[gamerman01]

With 72, buy 3 DD, 5 FTR (save 1)

Combat moves -
Sgr - MECH (Fra)
Z37 - SS (Z39) BMB (Wau)
Z42 - SS, DD (Z39)
Z25 - DD (Z10) FTR (Haw) 3 BMB (Car)
Z33 - SS (Z26) 4 FTR (Car)
Z26 - 4 FTR (WUS) DD (Z10)
Nor - INF, ARM (Wfr) FTR (Fra)
Hol - INF, BMB (Fra) ARM (WFr)

I’m feeling doomed…  I don’t think I like these victory conditions and it’s not just because of this game…  But it really feels wrong to lose over losing India and then Hawaii for one round…
Come on, Larry, if the Allies were to win in Europe and Japan took Australia, Hawaii, and India, do you really think the Allies would just stop and call it good and let the Empire of Japan be?  :-P
I don’t think I’d like it if I was playing the Axis either…  oh well, I knew it was part of the game when I agreed to play - don’t mind me

NorRolls: 1@1 2@3; Total Hits: 11@1: (1)2@3: (5, 6)Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)

[gamerman01]

Well shoot, I’ll be fine as long as Rambo’s on my side
HolRolls: 1@1 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@1: (5)1@3: (4)1@4: (1)Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (6, 1)

[gamerman01]

Retreat armor to France

Z33 submerge decision needed for the 2 subs

Z25Rolls: 1@2 1@3 3@4; Total Hits: 31@2: (5)1@3: (2)3@4: (6, 4, 1)Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)

[gamerman01]

Z26Rolls: 1@2 4@3; Total Hits: 21@2: (3)4@3: (2, 6, 1, 6)Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (4)

[gamerman01]

Z37Rolls: 1@2 1@4; Total Hits: 11@2: (6)1@4: (2)Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (4)

[Karl7]

SSS submerge

[gamerman01]

Great - thanks
I’ll be able to finish USA noncoms, but probably won’t get UK tonight

Z42 surprise strikeRolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)

[gamerman01]

Z42Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (2)

[gamerman01]

Z42 round 2, attacking sub will be first die
Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (3, 1)Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (5)

[gamerman01]

Z33Rolls: 1@2 4@3; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)4@3: (6, 6, 5, 6)Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

[gamerman01]

Nice

Haw - all air and ground in range
Z63 - TP (Z29)
Nte - BMB (Z37)
Que - all ground in Australia
Z10 - TP (Z27) CA (Z64)
WUS - 2 FTR (Z90)
Z64 - CV (Z90)
EUS - BMB (Hol)
Z112 - 3 TP, CV (Z110) FTR (Nor)
Nor - INF, AA (WFr)
Z43 - SS (Z41)
Z39 - DD (Z77)

Place 3 DD, 5 FTR (WUS)
Collect 84, 85 on hand

Hm.  Looks like I’m all in on Hawaii - if you take it it’s game over.
Even though I have 85 IPC’s with America, in the 50’s with UK, ANZ is alive and well, and France is making 20.  Russia still alive, Italy reduced to turtle in capital…. feels wrong…  but then, I’m sure I played it wrong, too… too used to the old ways…

L12G40Karl7(Axis)v.Gamerman(Allies)10dUSA.AAM

[Karl7]

Well, luck needs to weigh in for haw….you never know.

[gamerman01]

Yeah, it’s somewhere around 60/40 I think
Not sure if it’s better for you to wait - probably not
I don’t know, I’ll just throw around random advice like you do, hoping the other player will take some bad advice thinking it’s good  :wink:

Stack North Italy, etc… very funny  :-)

[Karl7]

Yeah, 60/40 is what I see to.  So Just slightly good dice for you could throw it.

Random advice?  Ha, ha… well, I think sometimes it has been spot on.  If you play the bluff game, sometimes your advice has got to be credible.  :lol:

I do think if you had blown out 31 successfully and then blocked you may have stopped my attack on Haw.  :|

[Karl7]

I’m feeling doomed…  I don’t think I like these victory conditions and it’s not just because of this game…  But it really feels wrong to lose over losing India and then Hawaii for one round…
Come on, Larry, if the Allies were to win in Europe and Japan took Australia, Hawaii, and India, do you really think the Allies would just stop and call it good and let the Empire of Japan be?  tongue
I don’t think I’d like it if I was playing the Axis either…  oh well, I knew it was part of the game when I agreed to play - don’t mind me

Trust me, I hear you.  The games I have lost as the allies I thought I was winning only to have Haw or Ind get snatched for the win kind of unexpectedly.

It’s a tough calculation.  One could have eased up on Germany, diverted US forces to Pacific, allowed Russia to fall, but secured Cairo and then collapsed Japan. But then letting Germany take out Russia seems counter-intuitive and hard to swallow.  But to take Cairo by land is tough, tough, tough and impossible if the US can divert 90-100% of its forces there after Japan is contained/conquered.

I have gamed it out for the win by world domination/conquest (the old way to play).  World domination is possible for an ascendant Germany if Japan falls, but impossible for an ascendant Japan alone if Germany falls.  Just too many IPCs on the Europe side.