XDAP-01 Clausewitz's Idiot Apprentices (AXIS) vs Invisible Greens

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I meant with my second message, that there should be no scramble at all, because its not worth it if I go intercepting with 2 fighters. Now I realize that you could have misunderstoof the message to mean what you did. Since I didn’t make clear what I really meant it’s up to you to decide if you take  my word for it and in keeping with my intent editing back my unitsas well as your losses from the planes or if you say I should have made myself clearer and everything stays as is.

[Degrasse]

I tried to edit the saved game file after the end of I13 doing the following:
A.  The Italian bomber attack on Gibraltar and intercept stays as is, so bomber was shot down after being intercepted
B.  The attack on sea zone 92 would have been five italian submarines on one american destroyer, no fighters or tacs scrambled to help defend.  I edited back in 1 tac to Gibralatar, two fighter and one tac back to spain, and one Italian submarine.  I already cleaned out my email for the day but I think the one hit came from the defending aircraft.  If you still have the email from the dice server, please check me on it.  The two fighters in Normandy I bumped to three fighters since I wouldn’t have taken any aircraft losses on the second round.

Let me know if I messed up the editing or missed something else that should be edited.

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You can just look up the dice rolls in the history. simply go game->show history and you can go back and forth through the whole game. and yes the destroyer didn’t hit at all so it’s correct that you keep your subs. Everything in your edit looks correct.

[Degrasse]

On we go then, waiting to see the titanic clash of the Japanese and American fleets, in the Atlantic?  :)

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :13

Combat Move - French
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia

Turn Complete - French

Territory Summary for French :

Algeria : 1 infantry
    Tunisia : 1 infantry
    Libya : 1 flag,
Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 49 / 59
    Russians : 44 / 53
    Japanese : 14 / 7
    Americans : 60 / 88
    Chinese : 23 / 29
    British : 9 / 0
    UK_Pacific : 27 / 32
    Italians : 28 / 33
    ANZAC : 20 / 30
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 0 / 0

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Hmm something went wrong with posting ANZAC. Well you can look it up in the game history.

[Degrasse]

Test summary from TripleA 21:39:47

[Degrasse]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :14

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 5 artilleries, 8 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
            4 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 artillery moved from Baltic States to Belarus
                  Germans take Belarus from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Bulgaria
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 4 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Bulgaria
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans win, taking Bulgaria from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans win with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys
            Recording Battle Statistics
            Trigger Germans Conquer London: Setting turns to 1-+ for conditionAttachment_Axis_Capture_London_Switch attached to Germans

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters moved from Bulgaria to Slovakia Hungary
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary
            1 aaGun moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux

Place Units - Germans
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            2 mech_infantrys placed in France
            3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
            1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 47 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 47 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs

[Mistergreen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :14

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania
                  Russians take Albania from Italians
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            2 armour moved from Romania to Bulgaria
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Bessarabia
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Turkey to Bulgaria

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Baltic States
                Russians attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 5 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for Germans: 5 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Russians win with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for Germans: 5 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Russians win with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Russians win with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Russians win with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
            Battle in Bulgaria
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                Russians win, taking Bulgaria from Germans with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Russians win with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Turkey to Iraq
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Iraq
            1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Smolensk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Belarus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Belarus
            4 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Belarus
            3 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Baltic States to Russia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            2 aaGuns moved from Greece to Bulgaria

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Greece
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Turkey
            5 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 64 PUs

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If you attack z91 we’ll scramble Spain and Portugal

[Degrasse]

I’ve run the cataclysmic battle in the Atlantic a couple of times now, it’s very loss order sensitive.  What order do you want to lose stuff in?

Just to nit pick, you mean to scramble from Spain and Gibraltar with 4 fighters and two tac bombers?

[Degrasse]

Alternately, is there a way to save after each round of combat so that you can choose the casualties?

[Mistergreen]

Yes. After you have rolled the dice just select the “map” (you should have two triplea windows, one with the map one with the battle) and save normally. We may spit out an OOL before or after that.

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Yes we want all planes scrambled. So 2Fighter, 1Tac each from Gibraltar and Spain.
We will lose units in the following order:
1)damage carrier
2)sub
3)destroyers
4)lose 4 carriers(so try to keep 1)
5)cruiser
6)tacs
7)remaining carrier
8)fighters

[Degrasse]

Test summary from TripleA 15:25:16

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Test summary from TripleA 15:25:56

[GenericUsername]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :14

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy nothing; Remaining resources:

Combat Move - Japanese
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from Brazil to Venezuela
                  Japanese take Venezuela from Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to French West Africa
                  Japanese take French West Africa from French
            1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 89 Sea Zone to West Indies
                  Japanese take West Indies from Americans
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 86 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 89 Sea Zone to Central America
                  Japanese take Central America from Americans
            1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Americans scrambles 3 units out of Spain to defend against the attack in 91 Sea Zone
            Americans scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 91 Sea Zone
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 12 fighters, 1 submarine, 4 tactical_bombers and 13 transports
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                Units damaged: 4 carriers owned by the Americans
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                2 submarines owned by the Japanese Submerged
                Americans win with 12 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for Americans: 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 1 submarine, 4 tactical_bombers and 13 transports
            Recording Battle Statistics
            Moving scrambled unit from 91 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Spain
            Moving scrambled unit from 91 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Spain
            Moving scrambled unit from 91 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar
            Moving scrambled unit from 91 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar
                8 fighters owned by the Americans forced to land in Spain

Non Combat Move - Japanese

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 11 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 18 PUs total

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Ok seems I overlooked the obvious exploit and paid the price. We should be able to recover I think.

[Degrasse]

Think of all the things we’ll know not do next round. :-)

Don’t go after three countries at once  with Japan
Don’t make stupid big stacks with Germany
The dice hate both sides
Big and balanced fleets matter
You can never have too many ships guarding transports
Avoid aircraft losses
Etc.

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Test summary from TripleA 13:18:33