XDAP-01 DbD (AXIS) vs. BiA

[AmorphousCube]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :5

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs total
                Some units change owners in territory India

Territory Summary for UK_Pacific :

India : 1 factory_major

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 53 / 64
    Russians : 32 / 43
    Japanese : 57 / 59
    Americans : 52 / 73
    Chinese : 2 / 4
    British : 29 / 31
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 3
    Italians : 14 / 30
    ANZAC : 14 / 14
    French : 3 / 0
    Dutch : 4 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Most Holy]

I subtracted 2 PU’s for Italy to fix no +2 on Strat Bomber.

edit ITal income -2.tsvg

[Most Holy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians repair 4 damage on 4 airfields; Remaining resources: 24 PUs;
            Italians buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
            Game Loaded
                Japanese are now being played by: Human
                Germans are now being played by: Human
                French is now being played by: Human
                British are now being played by: Human
                Chinese are now being played by: Human
                Dutch is now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Axis are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Allies are now being played by: Human
                ANZAC is now being played by: Human
                Russians are now being played by: Human
                UK_Pacific is now being played by: Human
                Mongolians are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_True is now being played by: Human
                Italians are now being played by: Human
                Americans are now being played by: Human

Combat Move - Italians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt

Combat - Italians
            ???
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry; French defend with 1 infantry; British defend with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British, taking Egypt from British with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 bomber, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 7 infantry
                Italians win with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 bomber, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 7 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Alexandria
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia

Place Units - Italians
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 14 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 14 PUs total
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs

[AmorphousCube]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs total

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

Queensland : 1 airfield, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
    New Zealand : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New South Wales : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 8 infantry
    Java : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 3 fighters and 3 infantry
    62 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 53 / 64
    Russians : 32 / 43
    Japanese : 57 / 59
    Americans : 52 / 73
    Chinese : 2 / 4
    British : 26 / 31
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 3
    Italians : 17 / 29
    ANZAC : 14 / 10
    French : 3 / 0
    Dutch : 4 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[AmorphousCube]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :5

Combat Move - French
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[AmorphousCube]

I cannot believe I was so bad as to let Egypt fall after the French Fleet crippled the Italians. Oh well, this game is really a learning experience for me, as I finally get to see what other people do as axis. (I always play axis with my friends when we play FtF)

[Most Holy]

A&A is like baseball in that no matter how many games you have seen there is a good chance in either that you will see something you have never seen before.

[Canuck12]

Rules question for Garg or anone who knows:

If I attack sz 98 do the Italian units enter the battle?

It’s just like I was attacked, so my ally should defend with me just like my fighters would defend with him next round.

Failing this:

It is a hostile seazone, but there is a destroyer present so can I unload by ignoring the subs?

What’s the deal?

What can and can’t I do?

[AmorphousCube]

My interpretation of the rules regarding this situation:

In the euro 40 rule book it says that when you build in a hostile sea zone, combat does NOT occur right away because the conduct combat phase is over. However, I do not know when that combat should occur. I thought (hoped really) that the combat would happen during the Italians turn, preferably with them defending. This is why I bombed the airbase, if they were defending there may bot be a scramble.

To answer your questions:

If you get to attack me, the Italians would not participate since there are no multinational attacks. I would think that because of that, you do NOT get the benefit of the destroyer, and therefore could not use planes (is my bias showing?). If you were defending that the Italians would help you of course.

Your transport unload question: (copied from http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149)
“transports are not allowed to unload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing an enemy sub(s) belonging to a power with which they are at war unless at least one of his warships was also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase.”

So you can’t unload without YOUR warships in that sea zone

You attacking me and the Italians not helping seems kinda silly to me, but I think that is how it would work. I am tempted to make a post in the G40 FAQ thread on this actually, because something doesn’t seem right, and I think the combat should have already happened.

In short:
I think Germany cannot unload without German warships, and you need a German destroyer to attack with German Planes.

[Most Holy]

Because I had the destroyer with me I could choose to ignore the sub. Germany’s transports however, I believe, would have to engage in one round of combat. But I’m not sure.

[AmorphousCube]

Before alpha subs got 1 round of combat to try to kill transports (I think)

As I said, I think that in alpha 3, you need an escort of the same nationality.

[Gargantua]

I’ve PM’d you Canuck.

That said,

I think you can load in that sea zone and leave,  but if you stay, you are going to insta-die.

[Canuck12]

I think everyone is correct. No unloads, no attacks with destroyers.

Aaaaalright… I guess I’ll just MARCH those guys over to Egypt…

[AmorphousCube]

Question: when will the combat occur? The next British turn?

[Most Holy]

I’ll drop a line to krieghund. He’s pretty quick.

[Gargantua]

Ram that transport through the Suez, with Air cover, blast that star destroyer with 2 fighters, and your Ion bomber, blow up the medical frigates with the infantry on board, and unload in Egypt THIS turn, ready to conquer madagascar next turn.

[Most Holy]

Krieghund states that you can completely ignore the sub.

There is some merit to Garg’s idea but it will cost you.

[Gargantua]

Yea, but it’s going to cost the Rebel Alliance a Calamari Cruiser, 2 medical frigates, and a bunch of worthless Wookies.  And for what, possibly the loss of perhaps 1 or 2 tie fighters, pfftp.

Definetely go all in.  It’s the best chance for the Imperial Transport to survive, and 2 units will make it to Egypt for the HOLD.

Fortunately for you guys, there are no Ewoks in the Desert, and the Sand People have been run off.

[Most Holy]

They frighten easily, but they will return. And in greater numbers.

[AmorphousCube]

@Most:

They frighten easily, but they will return. And in greater numbers.

You can be sure of that.

The Empire (also know as the “Allies” for some reason), will not suffer the loss of our star destroyer quietly. We will take back Endor (Egypt), and re power our Suez-Canal shields. There will be no stopping us this time. (As soon as we re-build our army that is…)