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12L G40 A3.9 NT seththenewb(axis) vs questioneer(allies) G1/J1!
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.7
Game History
Round :2
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - ANZAC
Giving bonus movement to unitsNon Combat Move - ANZAC
1 fighter moved from Sumatra to India
1 destroyer moved from 55 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
2 aaGuns moved from Queensland to New South Wales
1 artillery moved from Queensland to New South Wales
2 fighters moved from Queensland to New South WalesPlace Units - ANZAC
3 fighters placed in New South WalesTurn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total
Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.7
Game History
Round :2
Combat Move - French
Giving bonus movement to units
1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial AfricaNon Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.7
Game History
Round :3
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Germans
Giving bonus movement to units
2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
4 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
3 bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Russia
4 armour, 5 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Belarus
2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 99 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Bessarabia
1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
Germans take Karelia from Russians
6 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
Germans take Vyborg from RussiansCombat - Germans
Battle in 96 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 1 destroyer
Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Strategic bombing raid in Russia
Bombing raid in Russia causes: 13 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in Russia causes 13 damage total.
Battle in Baltic States
Germans attack with 2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys
Russians defend with 2 infantry
Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 2 armour and 6 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
Germans win with 2 armour and 6 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
Battle in Bessarabia
Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Western Ukraine
Germans attack with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Russians defend with 3 infantry
Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
Germans win with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
Battle in 99 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 1 destroyer
Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Germans: 1 tactical_bomber
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Germans: 1 tactical_bomber
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Battle in Belarus
Germans attack with 9 armour, 5 artilleries, 11 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 9 armour, 5 artilleries, 9 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Germans win with 9 armour, 5 artilleries, 9 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Recording Battle StatisticsNon Combat Move - Germans
2 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
3 bombers moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Western Germany
1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Greece
1 tactical_bomber moved from Finland to Eastern Poland
1 fighter moved from Finland to Western Germany
3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to FrancePlace Units - Germans
1 infantry placed in Western Germany
1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys placed in GermanyTurn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs total
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs -
USSR will fall soon! :evil:
Michigan still sucks!
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Yeah a silly position gaff by me. I knew I made the NCMs wrong the first round here. Being one of my early games, the first against the G1 I believe, it doesn’t bother me. I’m much more aware now what has to be done.
GG, you get the cheap win here- thanks for showing me the gambit- first time through actually.
Yes the G1/J1 is playable, not that impressed though, I still like G2 for Germany better. J1 is very good for Japan, though I think J2 is equally as good and might be better in the long run.
What I’ve learned through the whole round 1-2 Axis gambit games:
It is beatable.
Taranto is almost a necessity, although Tobruk is not bad, Taranto is more refined and better in the long run.
18inf, 2AA I think are best going to Moscow, though in our other game, I’m interested to see what happens. You seems to be running out of gas there and I’ll have 14 planes on Moscow. However, I do miss the 18inf there also.
IC on Egypt is also a must on round 1 it seems.Allied strategy seems to just invest hard in the Pacific with US, advance in South Pacific and make sure Hawaii and ANZAC are stable. After round 3 its all Europe. UK builds IC in Egypt right from the get go and holds fast. Russia- depending on when Germany attacks turtles and consolidates, move 18inf to Moscow, UK sends planes if needed through Scotland or through US/UK send planes through Egypt, which is easier I think.
With proper play against the G1/J1, India should fall no earlier that round 4, round 5 if things don’t go Japan’s way. Since Japan goes quickly to India on a J1 gambit so fast, the Pacific is really not a threat and US can really invest earlier on the Europe side and start bringing the heat to Gib and shuck major air to Egypt then Moscow if needed.
If Taranto is done, by the time India falls, Italy is neutered and Paris/Rome are in danger, Cairo is a fortress and Moscow is impenentrable. US is cherry picking the DEI and neglected Japanese tts.
So basically Japan is going all-out for the Europe win on a J1, sending airforce to Europe and taking India. In exchange however, you give up Cairo, the Med, the Pacific and probably either Rome or Paris AND you may never actually take down Moscow. After round 10 the game becomes a slow death crawl for the Axis as Allies regain naval superiority tip back the scales economically.
For all the hype these gambits are getting, I’m afraid they are nothing more than a fad. Several players are coming up with good counters already. I’ve seen lots of countering moves that have a lot of good play for the Allies. Not all of them are mentioned here but basically Allies can weather the storm and win.
Based on the 2 polls done with online players (100+ voters). Several believe that the game is slightly Allied favored or even. This was surprising to me, b/c all I heard was how the Axis are dominating with these new gambits. Sure you get a few cheap wins, but after everyone has seen the gambits 3-4 times, they don’t become as threatening anymore and the Axis wins (if any) become much harder to come by.
I really think in 3-6 months everyone will be saying how the Allies really have the advantage in this game.
What do you think???
As for “Michigan sucks” comment:
All-time versus Ohio State, 58-43-6
Winniest program in college football
#1 recruiting class for 2013
The tables have turned, Urban won’t save you, we are above you- always have been- always will be.
Last year’s loss felt bitter didn’t it. If you are a true OHIO fan, I know it bugs you.
Have fun getting “shoelaced” again and sitting home while you watch us win the B1G title game.
Call me crazy, but I really believe Urban will have a tough time at OHIO. Just a gut feeling. Hope I’m wrong actually. -
Congrats on beating one of the worst OSU teams in decades. :roll: A couple missed throws on Braxton’s part and that would’ve been another Buckeye win. I know I know, should’ve would’ve could’ve. And there were some close ones that OSU’s won over the past decade. But keep telling me you’re not worried about Braxton for the next couple of years. And same goes with Urban. I mean Braxton had 335 total offense to 337 from Robinson. I’m glad you got Hoke though and I’m glad that he’s righting that ship. Winning all those games under sweatervest was losing some luster against RR. Seriously, a stronger Michigan is great for the rivalry and great for the Big10. Lord knows the Big10 needs some more consistency and elite teams. OSU’s been it for a couple of years now and yeah. At least we have the Oregon win and voided Arky win to hang our hat on, better than sitting at home watching the bowls. :wink:
Which two polls are you talking about? I voted on the recent one, is there another one on a different site or are you talking about an earlier one? If they’re both from this site, then of course people who voted one way in one poll probably did the same in the other. So saying 100 voters might be misleading, unless you counted posts or something to verify those were all unique voters. For what it’s worth, I voted for it’s balanced. I think there’s an ever so slight edge to the axis at this point, maybe it’ll even out as allied play becomes more cohesive and refined.
About the game(vs The Game), does it look like I’m setting up for an India crush right off the bat? I don’t like to go after India right away and would rather keep my options open. India as a threat is pretty much nullified once they get down to 6-7 ipcs. If I see US isn’t going atlantic, I could swoop in and take Hawaii without skipping a beat. If India’s looking ripe, then bam crush. If the Aussies are open then I can take them out. Usually I’m looking to gain parity or near parity with the pacific allies and then use my central position and air power to do the rest. I was happy you went Tobruk instead of Taranto, I think Tobruk can be viable situationally. But not where both major axis powers are expanding turn 1.
As far as not being impressed . . . I have yet to lose a game on this site where I tried a G1/J1. This makes it 5 games I think. . . or maybe the 5th is the one against MrG. So it’s not a huge sample size and I don’t think it’s unbeatable. I think one of it’s perks is people aren’t used to seeing it. I’m playing MrG for the 3rd time and he’s done better every game and this last one’s still up in the air. I think I have a slight advantage, but it could easily go either way. Granted I’ve also used him to perfect my strategy and I’ve made some tweaks each game.
I played it once it my playgroup but someone else was Japan and they failed HARD. I seriously don’t know how you fail that hard without trying to do it on purpose. US was only putting 2 subs into the pac and everything else against Europe after turn 1 AND the allies were still beating the crap out of Japan! Not just holding Japan in check; but driving him off the mainland, taking all his islands, and convoying Japan itself to death. Meanwhile I saw the fail coming and Germany made heavy sacrifices to take Moscow turn 5 to try and avoid fighting a two front war. But rich India sent all it’s fast movers and air to retake Moscow with the help of all the far east ussr inf. And of course UK/US were making heavy landings and threatening Italy. It was ugly and my axis partner still had the gall to say the axis lost because Italy failed to secure Egypt. :roll:
I’d be happy to have a rematch if you think you can beat this strat. I want to see what you throw at me and hopefully keep the streak alive. :evil: League or nonleague/bid or no bid.
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@seththenewb:
Congrats on beating one of the worst OSU teams in decades. :roll: A couple missed throws on Braxton’s part and that would’ve been another Buckeye win. I know I know, should’ve would’ve could’ve. And there were some close ones that OSU’s won over the past decade. But keep telling me you’re not worried about Braxton for the next couple of years. And same goes with Urban. I mean Braxton had 335 total offense to 337 from Robinson. I’m glad you got Hoke though and I’m glad that he’s righting that ship. Winning all those games under sweatervest was losing some luster against RR. Seriously, a stronger Michigan is great for the rivalry and great for the Big10. Lord knows the Big10 needs some more consistency and elite teams. OSU’s been it for a couple of years now and yeah. At least we have the Oregon win and voided Arky win to hang our hat on, better than sitting at home watching the bowls. :wink:
Yeah RR was THE worst coach in Michigan’s 100+ year history- literally. Can’t pat yourself on the back for those wins- neither can Sparty, but those wins over Lloyd Carr were quality wins. Reminded me of John Cooper and the 90s- could win all your games but your rival. We had it coming to us this past decade after dominating the 90s. That’s what makes the GAME the greatest rivalry in all sports.
I’m not worried at all about Urban. I don’t think he can cut corners like he did in Florida, nor do I think he can get those fast SEC recruits like he once did. That being said, I think he’ll be fine. I’m very excited about the Hoke-Urban rivalry. I think we’re going to see some of the best games ever in the next 10-12 years. Offense minded Urban vs. Defensive minded Hoke. We got some great games coming. As far as Braxton Miller…meh…we got our own versions…Shoelace, Devin Gardner, Shane Morris…+ we’re actually developing a defense after the horrid RR years. I can’t believe that guy actually got a job in Arizona…they’re crazy. :? And John L. Smith goes to Arkansas??? He sucks at Michigan State for years!!!
As far as Global, yes I would like to play again- I guess a regular one since you can’t play 3 games with one player in league unless you are tied 1-1. Our second game is interesting, but I’m not sure if Allies can hold there either.
As with MrGreen, I have also gotten wiser as I see the J1/G1, J2/G2 more. Its definitley tougher playing Allies, but I like the challenge. Axis is complicated in the beginning but after that its crush, crush, crush. Me and MrGreen are tied 1-1, both were quick games, I played Allies both times. The second time he hustled me with the J1 crush. I had to go back and research my mistakes. I love that “history” option- great for analysis.
Yes, I failed at Japan once also. Japan can be a monster, but you got to play them right or you get crushed. Now I realize this is where Cow’s Playbook comes in real handy. I actually think Japan is harder to play than Germany/Italy, but Japan definitely has the higher ceiling I think.
I do believe the community playing Allies is starting to “catch up” though. I see a lot of early Allied losses only to come back much stronger and make the game more even. There’s a lot of things I’m experimenting in my games, so it gets tough, but you learn and come back stronger.
Anyway yes, let’s do another game (non-league), I’ll be Allies again. I’ll set up the thread. Do the G1/J1 again. I’m gonna keep playing against that until I get a strategy honed down. Expect a tougher fight.
Oh one other question…you’ve been playing a lot of Axis, how well can you play Allies??? Do you ever play them???
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I think 4/5 of my first games were as allies. Most of my recent games have been as axis because a couple people (you/mrg) wanted to see my G1/J1 and then wanted a 2nd crack at it. I just beat vance as allies but my only current allied game is in the tourney. If you want to start up a non league game with me as allies, I’ll play you. Just set it up and shoot me a link.
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Don’t think that Urban’s going to be light on defense either. That’s actually one of his cornerstones is getting a fast D onto the field and swarming the other team. I unfortunately bore mute witness to his defense’s success a couple years back. And I’m sure you’ll see plenty of his D in the coming years. Oh and I suppose he cut corners at Utah and Bowling Green as well huh?
I forgot I just started another one as allies vs wheatbeer. I’m still up for another allied game if you want.
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Camping this weekend, nothing out of me until the weekend’s over. Have fun!
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@seththenewb:
Don’t think that Urban’s going to be light on defense either. That’s actually one of his cornerstones is getting a fast D onto the field and swarming the other team. I unfortunately bore mute witness to his defense’s success a couple years back. And I’m sure you’ll see plenty of his D in the coming years. Oh and I suppose he cut corners at Utah and Bowling Green as well huh?
I forgot I just started another one as allies vs wheatbeer. I’m still up for another allied game if you want.
If Lloyd can handle Urban/Tebow, I think Hoke will be just fine. What great D was that???
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Camping trip was shortened due to weather.
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@seththenewb:
I think 4/5 of my first games were as allies. Most of my recent games have been as axis because a couple people (you/mrg) wanted to see my G1/J1 and then wanted a 2nd crack at it. I just beat vance as allies but my only current allied game is in the tourney. If you want to start up a non league game with me as allies, I’ll play you. Just set it up and shoot me a link.
Yeah, I noticed you play with a substantial bid as Allies meaning you must think Allies have the advantage.
I’ll set up a link later. I want another crack at the G1/J1
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Well, if people are going to give me a bid I’m going to take it. That’s also another reason I usually end up as the axis, people bid high and I’m like of whatever that’s more then enough for me.
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Yeah, looking at Cow’s playbook on Japan…finally learning to appreciate it. His Japan is a little complicated to play at first. Played it twice now…its coming along…definitely gotta practice it a few times. I’ll set up a thread later for another crack at the G1/J1 as Allies.
How’s your tourny??? I guess i can just browse your game.
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Hey BTW do you play live also???
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I honestly haven’t played live on triplea except once when it was a local game between me and a buddy and we didn’t have a board. I probably couldn’t sit through a whole game unless I planned it out ahead of time.
Tourney’s doing kind of bad. UK fell to sea lion because I sort of baited it, Taranto cleared with just fighter after I sent pretty much everything that could reach, China had rotten luck and lost their fighter right off the bat, but USSR’s income is pretty nice right now.
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