I haven’t set up a board with the first two turns of moves to see possible Allied counterattack’s, but I am skeptical that you can take the Money Islands and Australia during the first four turns, while still holding most of Mainland Asia and threatening India. You must have very weak opposition if you can execute all of those strategies simultaneously. At some point you will have to deal with leaving sufficient forces to deter the 18 Russian ground units in Amur, opportunistic attacks in the Money Islands, counterstrikes against your W Australia landing force, and an ANZAC blocking ship that is very hard to clear out on J3. You would be playing a weak opponent if you could do all that you stated by J7. Having everything collapse like that by J4 is not credible. The only way you could achieve this time schedule is if the Allied Pacific forces are cowering out of incompetence.
Can japan park his fleet on pearl harbor?
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Alpha 3-
Movement: A power’s ships don’t block the naval movements of other powers with which it’s not at war, and vice versa. They can occupy the same sea zones.
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Political Situation - Japan:
When not yet at war with the United States, in addition to the normal restrictions (see Powers Not at War with One Another above), Japan may not end the movement of its sea units within two sea zones of the Western United States or Alaska territories.From Larry’s site:
http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149 -
@Cow:
Is there anything official on this?
Yes he clearly quoted the rules in alpha 3, thats official.
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So there are no powers not at war restrictions?
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You cannot park on Pearl, as explained, but Midway is legal. I have taken just a carrier to Midway on J1 while pushing hard in to China and waited to see US1. It is possible to destroy the whole of their fleet and take Pearl on J2. This is not ideal, as Japan loses hers too, but I play someone whose US2 is to park off Aus , so i have to DOW on 2 knowing i could lose Carolines. Very annoying!
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Park a FAT contingent at the Carolines, with air support J1, they’ll be rethinking where the American fleet gets placed…
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the two schools of thought collide. some prefer all off of FIC area (all the air there to hit any china or burma stack). Others like the caroline load.
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@wittman:
You cannot park on Pearl, as explained, but Midway is legal.
No. You CAN park at Pearl, as explained. SZ 26 is not WITHIN 2 spaces of West USA.
The US, while not at war with Japan, cannot end a move in a seazone that touches Japanese territory.
Japan, while not at war with the US, cannot end a move within 2 seazones of West US and Alaska. Those are the only two territories with this requirement - the Aleutians, while an “alaskan territory” is NOT Alaska. These seazones are: 1,2,3,8,9,10,11,12.
It does not mean 2 seazones away from SZ 1, 2 & 10; it means 2 seazones away from West US and Alaska, which include 1, 2, & 10 as the first of those 2 seazones…
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Is that what everyone thinks? What bothers me more is that US can wait by Aus before a DOW and therefore safeguard that VP city and threaten Japanese expansion. Japan cannot be everywhere! Hope to play again soon, but my friend will only do so if we place
the 18 Russian units from Global on the map. I will never win with alpha 3.9! But I am not whingeing. -
Now I am confused.
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Sorry cow, just reaAnjou can park on Pearl. You count as Kcdzim said.
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See Krieghund’s statement on this, too:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=19919.msg959504#msg959504
Pretty clear.
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Wow! I’ve been playing it wrong all along. But putting the Jap fleet at Pearl is REALLY leaving yourself in danger.
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Wow! I’ve been playing it wrong all along. But putting the Jap fleet at Pearl is REALLY leaving yourself in danger.
But also a way to freak out an Allies player and perhaps bait them into a 100% Pac. strategy ;)
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someone did this to me and took hawaii, I bought bombers on east usa to defend against possible sea lion attack on uk or to sink japan… I went to sink japan… and japan got sunk lol. Game was pretty much a breeze from there lol.
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I don’t see a reason to expose your fleet early as Japan. That said, even playing games with the Americans, albeit fun; is counterproductive.
You don’t gain much as you can still bait the US into buy full Pacific early in the game against a well-versed player, so that school of thought is out.
Carolines don’t come into play until much later in the game (read securing Calcutta) and VC win is Hawaii or Sydney. However, I’m banking that Hawaii is “easier” to take once removing the fleet than Sydney. This is primarily due to the Minor IC being able to put out multiple units round after round until you arrive with an Amphib that requires the Carolines.
Its much easier to go after Hawaii as it is a single move from Tokyo anyways (barring any blocks). Having to fight for the Carolines and then Sydney seems less… efficient?
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