No neither is gamey in my book, it’s part of the game that can lead to a victory (should be a 1 or 2 trick pony). Once your group see’s these moves, it’s up to your opponent to do something about it. Our group see’s a couple Italians at the Russian front often, which can help the Germans to push deeper into Russia. So if this is happening the Russians might need to picket with 2-3 inf in key territories, so you have a chance to kill off the Italian ground unit(s). A few Italians can allow you to sack some Russians, or simply bring your German air to the front so the Russians can’t strafe your German stack w/o air cover. Can also get you to Stalingrad or Caucasus faster, but often times it risks your German mech/tanks if the Russians see it and set up a counter. Sometimes Russia has to deal with a 3 ring circus if both Italy and Japan are knocking on the door w/Germany, it is up to the other Allies to even up the score. Even if Moscow falls, it’s all about what they can take with them, and if the western allies are in position to put the hurt on. Besides, if those Italian bombers are picking off Russians, they aren’t helping much in the Med (although the range allows them to threaten both theaters through the Black Sea).
Can japan park his fleet on pearl harbor?
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was allies and I always thought powers not at war can’t park on the other power’s island sea zone.
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they  can i think, they just dont block movement out of it
“Movement: A power’s ships don’t block the naval movements of other powers with which it’s not at war, and vice versa. They can occupy the same sea zones.”
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There are restrictions for some of the nations when neutral where they can move their units. Like for the USA.
I don’t seem to recall seeing such restrictions for Japan though, so my immediate guess would be: Yes, they can.
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I kind of want something official. However I thought I read somewhere that powers cannot move on sea zones containing a territory they do not own… like japan can’t go to borneo’s sea zone without being at war.
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No, that’s not quite it.
In Alpha 3 -
Japan can’t be in a seazone adjacent to a sea zone next to Alaska/Wus/Smx.
That is, you can’t place yourself in a position so that America can’t block a mainland attack.
Other than that, there are no restrictions to Japan.In Alpha 2, there are none at all.
US has a restriction, which I think is what you’re thinking of, in which they cannot be in a sea zone adjacent to or containing Japanese territory.
Japan can be in Borneo’s sea zone while at peace with UK. No problems there.
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Is there anything official on this?
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Alpha 3-
Movement: A power’s ships don’t block the naval movements of other powers with which it’s not at war, and vice versa. They can occupy the same sea zones.
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Political Situation - Japan:
When not yet at war with the United States, in addition to the normal restrictions (see Powers Not at War with One Another above), Japan may not end the movement of its sea units within two sea zones of the Western United States or Alaska territories.From Larry’s site:
http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149 -
@Cow:
Is there anything official on this?
Yes he clearly quoted the rules in alpha 3, thats official.
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So there are no powers not at war restrictions?
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You cannot park on Pearl, as explained, but Midway is legal. I have taken just a carrier to Midway on J1 while pushing hard in to China and waited to see US1. It is possible to destroy the whole of their fleet and take Pearl on J2. This is not ideal, as Japan loses hers too, but I play someone whose US2 is to park off Aus , so i have to DOW on 2 knowing i could lose Carolines. Very annoying!
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Park a FAT contingent at the Carolines, with air support J1, they’ll be rethinking where the American fleet gets placed…
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the two schools of thought collide. some prefer all off of FIC area (all the air there to hit any china or burma stack). Others like the caroline load.
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@wittman:
You cannot park on Pearl, as explained, but Midway is legal.
No. You CAN park at Pearl, as explained. SZ 26 is not WITHIN 2 spaces of West USA.
The US, while not at war with Japan, cannot end a move in a seazone that touches Japanese territory.
Japan, while not at war with the US, cannot end a move within 2 seazones of West US and Alaska. Those are the only two territories with this requirement - the Aleutians, while an “alaskan territory” is NOT Alaska. These seazones are: 1,2,3,8,9,10,11,12.
It does not mean 2 seazones away from SZ 1, 2 & 10; it means 2 seazones away from West US and Alaska, which include 1, 2, & 10 as the first of those 2 seazones…
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Is that what everyone thinks? What bothers me more is that US can wait by Aus before a DOW and therefore safeguard that VP city and threaten Japanese expansion. Japan cannot be everywhere! Hope to play again soon, but my friend will only do so if we place
the 18 Russian units from Global on the map. I will never win with alpha 3.9! But I am not whingeing. -
Now I am confused.
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Sorry cow, just reaAnjou can park on Pearl. You count as Kcdzim said.
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See Krieghund’s statement on this, too:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=19919.msg959504#msg959504
Pretty clear.
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Wow! I’ve been playing it wrong all along. But putting the Jap fleet at Pearl is REALLY leaving yourself in danger.
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Wow! I’ve been playing it wrong all along. But putting the Jap fleet at Pearl is REALLY leaving yourself in danger.
But also a way to freak out an Allies player and perhaps bait them into a 100% Pac. strategy ;)
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