JWW vs Most Holy

[666]

clicked all boxes…

here is the map,

Holy v JWW g1.tsvg

[666]

not sure why it didn’t post turn summaries etc?

[666]

haven’t played revised in some time. Can’t believe I lost my BB in the med.

[666]

just noticed “post to forum” was disabled. That shouldn’t happen again.

[Most Holy]

k re do it with the save file then unclick dice thing

[666]

@Most:

k re do it with the save file then unclick dice thing

OK! I’ll be glad to keep my MED battleship!!

[Gargantua]

JWW,

The dice email is just to keep people honest.

What you can do, is make a folder in your inbox called DICE,  and direct all email from MARTI to that folder.

You’ll basically NEVER see those emails again, unless you want to review dice rolls,  which sometimes you will :)

[666]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v4, version: 2.7

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour, 1 carrier and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 8 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 2 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 2 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Karelia S.S.R.
                  Germans take Karelia S.S.R. from Russians
            1 battleship moved from 14 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Southern Europe to 14 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 15 Sea Zone to Anglo Egypt
            1 armour moved from 15 Sea Zone to Anglo Egypt
            1 armour moved from Libya to Anglo Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Anglo Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Balkans to Anglo Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Western Europe to 13 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Germany to 13 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Europe to 13 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 15 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 15 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 15 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 15 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 15 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in 15 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 15 Sea Zone
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Anglo Egypt
                British win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -27
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 transport
            Battle in 13 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 fighters
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in 13 Sea Zone, round 1 :  3/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in 13 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 13 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
                Germans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Battle in Anglo Egypt
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Anglo Egypt, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Anglo Egypt, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British , 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Anglo Egypt
                retreated to Anglo Egypt
                British win with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -13
                Casualties for Germans: 2 armour and 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 2 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 battleship and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 2 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in 2 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 2 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 battleship owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 2 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 2 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 transport
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egypt to Libya
            1 artillery moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Libya
            1 fighter moved from 13 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 13 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 13 Sea Zone to Western Europe
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from 2 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 fighter moved from 2 Sea Zone to Norway
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Eastern Europe
            1 artillery moved from Southern Europe to Balkans
            1 infantry moved from Southern Europe to Balkans
            1 fighter moved from 5 Sea Zone to Western Europe

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier placed in 5 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 7 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs total

Territory Summary for Germans :

Germany : 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 1 factory and 7 infantry
    Southern Europe : 1 aaGun and 1 factory
    Eastern Europe : 1 armour and 5 infantry
    Karelia S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Norway : 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
    Western Europe : 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
    Balkans : 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Libya : 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    Ukraine S.S.R. : 1 infantry
    Belorussia : 1 infantry
    5 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 24 / 26
    Germans : 40 / 40
    British : 30 / 30
    Japanese : 30 / 30
    Americans : 42 / 42

[666]

what a disaster. BB get’s destroyed again by lowly UK dd? Crazy

[Most Holy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v4, version: 2.7

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from Eastern Canada to 1 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 1 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 3 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 3 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 armour moved from 3 Sea Zone to Norway
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Norway
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Norway
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Persia to India
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Anglo Egypt
            1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Australia to 40 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Australia to 40 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada

Combat - British
            Battle in 59 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in New Guinea
                British attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                British win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Norway
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 59 Sea Zone to China

Place Units - British
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Territory Summary for British :

Eastern Canada : 1 infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 infantry
    Australia : 1 infantry
    India : 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 1 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 infantry
    Anglo Egypt : 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    New Guinea : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    China : 1 fighter
    3 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    6 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 fighter
    15 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    35 Sea Zone : 1 carrier
    47 Sea Zone : 1 submarine and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 24 / 26
    Germans : 40 / 40
    British : 31 / 31
    Japanese : 29 / 30
    Americans : 42 / 42

[666]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v4, version: 2.7

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from French Indochina to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 50 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 50 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to China
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to China
            3 infantry moved from Kwantung to China
            2 infantry moved from French Indochina to China
            1 bomber moved from Japan to China
            1 fighter moved from Japan to China

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 52 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 52 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 52 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in 52 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in 52 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 52 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 carrier in 52 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 52 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 52 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 carrier owned by the Americans lost in 52 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in 52 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 52 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in 52 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            Battle in 47 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 submarine in 47 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in 47 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 carrier in 47 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 transport owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 47 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for British: 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for British: 1 submarine and 1 transport
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters
                British defend with 1 carrier
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 35 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier in 35 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier
            Battle in China
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry
                British defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in China, round 1 :  4/10 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in China, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans , 1 infantry owned by the Japanese , 1 fighter owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in China
                Japanese win, taking China from Americans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from China to French Indochina
            1 bomber moved from China to French Indochina
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 60 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 60 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 60 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indochina
            1 armour moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indochina
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to French Indochina
            1 carrier moved from 50 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indochina to 36 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 60 Sea Zone
            1 factory placed in French Indochina

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Philipine Islands : 2 infantry
    Borneo : 1 infantry
    East Indies : 2 infantry
    French Indochina : 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
    Solomon Islands : 1 infantry
    Wake Island : 1 infantry
    Okinawa : 1 infantry
    China : 1 flag, 6 infantry
    Japan : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 3 infantry
    Caroline Islands : 1 infantry
    36 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport
    52 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    60 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    47 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 fighter

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 24 / 26
    Germans : 40 / 40
    British : 31 / 31
    Japanese : 31 / 31
    Americans : 40 / 42

[666]

how do you think OOL should be handled?

[Most Holy]

OOL?

[666]

@Gargantua:

JWW,

The dice email is just to keep people honest.

What you can do, is make a folder in your inbox called DICE,� and direct all email from MARTI to that folder.

You’ll basically NEVER see those emails again, unless you want to review dice rolls,� which sometimes you will :)

if the dice system isn’t “flawed” why would you ever review the dice emails? How do you normally handle OOL? I like battle map MUCH better.

[666]

@Most:

OOL?

Order of loss. How does a player state that they want to lose their DD versus their sub, or bmb vs an inf etc.

During these turns I decide if your ss will submerge or fight on, typically your opponent needs to state what they want prior to you moving ahead.

[666]

So are you indeed the Most Holy? or are you being sarcastic?

[Most Holy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v4, version: 2.7

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 bomber and 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Algeria
                  Americans take Algeria from Germans

Combat - Americans
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 55 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Kazakh S.S.R.

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier placed in 55 Sea Zone
            1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 bomber placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 43 PUs total

Territory Summary for Americans :

Midway : 1 infantry
    Alaska : 1 infantry
    Western United States : 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    Hawaiian Islands : 2 infantry
    Kazakh S.S.R. : 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 bomber and 1 fighter
    Sinkiang : 1 infantry
    Algeria : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Eastern United States : 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 1 factory and 2 infantry
    12 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 2 transports
    10 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 1 destroyer
    55 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Russians : 24 / 26
    Germans : 39 / 40
    British : 31 / 31
    Japanese : 31 / 31
    Americans : 41 / 43

[Most Holy]

@JWW:

So are you indeed the Most Holy? or are you being sarcastic?

Quite sarcastic. OOL is something I wondered about myself. Common sense would speed up game time. For instance my US sub at Hawaii would never fight that fight so were I playing Japan I would have submerged it for you. Perhaps that’s personal preference though and not common sense at all. I suppose it would come down to honesty in a big fight say 10 inf, 10 armour, 10 fighters vs same, it would be terribly dishonest to take off the fighters first. Sub situations might be a bit different.  perhaps prior to actually conducting combat you would ask on the game thread?

[666]

@Most:

@JWW:

So are you indeed the Most Holy? or are you being sarcastic?

Quite sarcastic.

I LIKE IT!

[666]

RE:OOL……I thought I saw a thread briefly in AAA on the subject. perhaps I should read it? I am sure others have figured out a procedure for it. I have asked Gargantua.