Questioneer vs cow

[seth4god]

Cow, you do your J1 differently then mine . . .  I like to buy 2trn/ic, hit sz26, and bring a tank vs kwantung. I like the tank since it gives me another ground unit should uk/china try stacking yunnan or if China takes stuff strong.

[Cow]

this is more calcutta oriented, but I kill philippines. I do it this way because I am island oriented. I can see why skipping flip might be better so to prevent china stack and all.

[seth4god]

@Cow:

this is more calcutta oriented, but I kill philippines. I do it this way because I am island oriented. I can see why skipping flip might be better so to prevent china stack and all.

Oh no, I hit both flip, sz35, sz37, & sz26. It’s a little more ambitious, but I the moves I do keep the bulk of my fleet safe aside from a ss/dd/ca or two. You can check out my moves/attacks just about every active game I have barring one vs questioneer and my one vs vance. I usually hit calcutta eventually, but I don’t worry too much about them at the start since I usually get them down to 6-7ipc/turn.

[Cow]

Ah I go j4 or j5. IC over there is nice to have.

[questioneer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.7

Game History

Round :2

Politics - Russians
            Game Loaded
                Japanese are now being played by: Human
                Germans are now being played by: Human
                French is now being played by: Human
                British are now being played by: Human
                Chinese are now being played by: Human
                Dutch is now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Axis are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Allies are now being played by: Human
                ANZAC is now being played by: Human
                Russians are now being played by: Human
                Mongolians are now being played by: Human
                UK_Pacific is now being played by: Human
                Neutral_True is now being played by: Human
                Italians are now being played by: Human
                Americans are now being played by: Human

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Poland
                  Russians take Poland from Germans
            1 armour moved from Belarus to Slovakia Hungary
                  Russians take Slovakia Hungary from Germans
            2 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            3 armour moved from Russia to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine

Combat - Russians
            Russians creates battle in territory 115 Sea Zone
            Battle in 115 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 3 transports
                1 submarine owned by the Russians Submerged
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            18 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
            2 aaGuns moved from Buryatia to Amur

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 armour and 3 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 52 PUs

[questioneer]

Alright man, seriously, quit pulling my chain.  You’re not playing me seriously.  I don’t understand your German turn- giving me the free tts and cash along with some blocks.

:? :? :?

[Cow]

it is not free cash, you do lose a mech or tank if you take it. slight gain, but you will lose that unit for now and place your gain next round. it is not too bad.

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.7

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
                  Japanese take Celebes from Dutch
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Java
            1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Shan State
            5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to 41 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
            2 fighters moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 41 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in 41 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in 41 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
                Japanese win with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 37 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 37 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Malaya
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry; British defend with 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Malaya
                Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 8 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 1 :  5/12 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 8 infantry in Yunnan, round 1 :  5/8 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese , 5 infantry owned by the Chinese and 3 fighters owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 :  3/7 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win with 2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 8 infantry
                Japanese win with 2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 8 infantry
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser; British defend with 1 transport
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 42 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 3 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 1 :  2/5 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 3 infantry in Shan State, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Java
                Japanese win, taking Java from UK_Pacific with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Malaya to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar

Place Units - Japanese
            1 airfield placed in Kwangsi
            1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 53 PUs; end with 55 PUs total

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Caroline Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Paulau Island : 1 infantry
    Kwangsi : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers
    Japan : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Jehol : 4 infantry
    Suiyuyan : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Kweichow : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Hunan : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Hopei : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Chahar : 1 flag, 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
    Anhwe : 1 flag,    Malaya : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Borneo : 1 flag,    Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Philippines : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    French Indo China : 1 flag, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
    Celebes : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Java : 1 flag, 1 armour

[Cow]

your infantry had hot dice, guess things evened out. :)

[Cow]

if you attack japan or korea with surface naval ships i will roll kamikaze.

[Guest]

LOL

[Cow]

What is funny Vance? Still got 100% india for J4 and I should only lose AA gun casualties with average dice, unless something better comes along for me to attack.

[Cow]

as far as my air goes india j4 is still only a couple air to the aa gun, but I could get diced and lose maybe 4-5 air.

[Guest]

Cow, you do know that Kamikazes can’t hit transports or air units right?  And surface ships can NCM into kamikaze zones?

[Cow]

I am more or less happy with novgorod g3.  and some ruskie inf kills below in bessarabia and east poland for some reason.

As far as poland and hungary. tank is 6 ipc for 6 ipc, it rolls 3 on defense so 1.5 ipc for the defense roll  the mech is 4 and gets 5  1 net with 1 ipc for defense roll. total 3.5 ipc gain, round up it is 4 ipc gain net (you can also just assume he gets 1 hit out of two defense rolls for 1 kill on defense and add +1 (income gain minus TUV lost)).

If this is my cost to get novgorod g3 and hold it, I am happy.

Also didn’t have enough air to sink the transport by UK, had to kill naval for italy. I suffered no losses there so I am happy.

This is a dice game though, defenders always have a chance at doing more than usual, I am not too worried about it though.
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Yes, vance I am aware of what you said. I don’t really care, whatever usa sends there dies in the counter.

[Cow]

I am saying this in case he takes 5% odds at Japan.

[questioneer]

@Cow:

your infantry had hot dice, guess things evened out. :)

They always do in long dice type games like Axis and Allies.  You just hope that you get Lucky Luck to come around at the RIGHT times.

All smack talk aside, I’m enjoying this game so far.  This is only the 2nd time I’m seeing the G1/J1 gambits…very intriguing.

I guess if you wanna define this game, I would call it a test game b/c I’ve only played the latest Alpha about 8 times, though I’ve played the other versions several.  I think it takes about 20-30 games or so to really settle in on an opening repitoure.  So many defense to see and learn.  Even in this game, I’m discovering new things to perfect Allied strategy.  Should’ve dropped and IC on Egypt round 1 and of course the Sumatra thing was sloppy, but hey I’ll live with it.

However, since it is a test game for me, don’t hold back your best.  G1/J1 is not optimal for you is it???  I thought you preferred G2/J2 as “standard”???

[questioneer]

@Cow:

I am more or less happy with novgorod g3.  and some ruskie inf kills below in bessarabia and east poland for some reason.

As far as poland and hungary. tank is 6 ipc for 6 ipc, it rolls 3 on defense so 1.5 ipc for the defense roll  the mech is 4 and gets 5  1 net with 1 ipc for defense roll. total 3.5 ipc gain, round up it is 4 ipc gain net (you can also just assume he gets 1 hit out of two defense rolls for 1 kill on defense and add +1 (income gain minus TUV lost)).

If this is my cost to get novgorod g3 and hold it, I am happy.

Also didn’t have enough air to sink the transport by UK, had to kill naval for italy. I suffered no losses there so I am happy.

This is a dice game though, defenders always have a chance at doing more than usual, I am not too worried about it though.
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Yes, vance I am aware of what you said. I don’t really care, whatever usa sends there dies in the counter.

Yes, I give up $10 in material to gain $11 plus a couple of key reinforcement blocks.  Delay, delay, delay.  $52- shoot, I might just buy me some bombers or a crap load of infantry and tanks.  Gosh, if I would’ve known you were gonna do that I might have brought the 18inf home- worth it then- never get Moscow.

G1 gambit- push hard to Scandinavian cash, that’s why you came up north right???  I’m assuming so.  Let’s see if it pays off.  You got me thinking of other endevours now.  Hmmm…

Yes whatever the USA sends to Korea will die in the counter.  The problem is that the counter will keep China and India alive- more help to Russia- thank you very much.  Unless there is a counter I don’t see, the Korea move is a tempo move that makes Japan pick a pill to swallow.  Just wondering what pill you will choose…

Man my NCMs have been a little sloppy though.  I don’t think I’ll play 8 games at a time again.  I’ll should go down to 5.

Interesting game though.  Turn later.

[Cow]

meh, J1 vs J2 has trade offs. Soulfein explained it in the proper thread.

I am doing really good and you don’t even realize this… which is kind of funny.

[questioneer]

oh no I realize that.  You give yourself waaaayy too credit- that’s what really funny.  Love your confidence though- its cute. :wink: