Noll vs Vance (game2) - Global40 A3 - TripleA

[Guest]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :2

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            4 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total
                Some units change owners in territory India

[Noll]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Alexandria
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Alexandria
            1 armour moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to 94 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Morocco
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kenya to Belgian Congo
                  Italians take Belgian Congo from British

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry; British defend with 1 harbour
                Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Italians win with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Alexandria
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 2 artilleries and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
                Italians win with 2 artilleries and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Morocco
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Morocco from French with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Italians win with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
            1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Tobruk
            2 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs total
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs

[Guest]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy nothing; Remaining resources:

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
            3 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 21 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs

[Guest]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :2

Combat Move - French
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Noll]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :3

Politics - Germans
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Germans and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Italians and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and British from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and UK_Pacific from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and ANZAC from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Dutch from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Chinese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and French from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Neutral_Allies from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Germans and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Italians and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Mongolians and British from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Mongolians and UK_Pacific from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Mongolians and ANZAC from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Mongolians and Dutch from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Mongolians and Chinese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Mongolians and French from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Mongolians and Neutral_Allies from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            2 infantry moved from Norway to Sweden
            1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Finland to Sweden
            3 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Sweden
            3 artilleries moved from 113 Sea Zone to Sweden
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Spain
            3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Spain
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Sweden
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Spain
            2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Algeria to Spain
            6 armour and 5 infantry moved from Greece to Turkey
            2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to Turkey

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Spain
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers
                Neutral_True defend with 6 infantry
                Germans win, taking Spain from Neutral_True with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_True: 6 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_True: 6 infantry
            Battle in Turkey
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 2 bombers and 5 infantry
                Neutral_True defend with 8 infantry
                Germans win, taking Turkey from Neutral_True with 6 armour, 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_True: 8 infantry
                Germans win with 6 armour, 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_True: 8 infantry
            Battle in Sweden
                Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_True defend with 6 infantry
                Germans win, taking Sweden from Neutral_True with 4 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_True: 6 infantry
                Germans win with 4 artilleries, 10 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_True: 6 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Sweden to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Spain to Western Germany
            2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Spain to France
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            2 bombers moved from Turkey to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Albania

Place Units - Germans
            1 factory_minor placed in Greece
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Germany
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Germans player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Germans from Normandy Bordeaux: 3 aaGuns
            EDIT: Germans player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Germans to Spain: 3 aaGuns
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs

[Noll]

I forgot to move my submarines, please use this file Vance:

[Guest]

Verrrry nice!  I am going to have to think about this one……

[Guest]

I don’t know what to do with that.  South America would be nice but I am hopelessly out of position to get at it.  Man that’s a bad one.

Congrats Noll I am just going to concede.

[Noll]

wow this move really scared you that mutch? I’m still tinkering it

[Guest]

Yeah that’s hopeless.

[Guest]

The sea lion feint really clinches it.  Usually people don’t like to hit the z92 with Germany because it puts their planes way down in Algeria, but with your Neutral crush they are actually in a good spot to hit Spain from there.  If you really wanted to go nuts you could have Italy build an airbase there on round 2 and then the German planes could hit Turkey and land in Greece.

That’s a good one.

[Noll]

@Vance:

The sea lion feint really clinches it.  Usually people don’t like to hit the z92 with Germany because it puts their planes way down in Algeria, but with your Neutral crush they are actually in a good spot to hit Spain from there.  If you really wanted to go nuts you could have Italy build an airbase there on round 2 and then the German planes could hit Turkey and land in Greece.

That’s a good one.

Still I’m not sure of the effectiveness.

Would you like to start a new game now that you know this move?

[Guest]

Yeah we could try it again.  I’m not sure what the right respose to it is though.  It is tempting to get ready to take Spain, but then Japan will be unchecked.  Russia and UK can’t do a whole lot in the middle east.

[Noll]

Ok I’ll restart as Axis.

[Noll]

Scramble?

German 1 - scramble.tsvg

[Guest]

no scramble.

[Noll]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            Giving bonus movement to units
            3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            Game Loaded
                Japanese are now being played by: Human
                Germans are now being played by: Human
                French is now being played by: Human
                British are now being played by: Human
                Chinese are now being played by: Human
                Dutch is now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Axis are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Allies are now being played by: Human
                ANZAC is now being played by: Human
                Russians are now being played by: Human
                UK_Pacific is now being played by: Human
                Mongolians are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_True is now being played by: Human
                Italians are now being played by: Human
                Americans are now being played by: Human

Combat - Germans
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
                Germans win with 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Germans win with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British win with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 cruiser; British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Recording Battle Statistics
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting turns to 1-+ for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation attached to French
            Setting uses for triggers used this phase.

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany
            3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            3 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Poland to 114 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 113 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

[Guest]

OK I am going to do a little play by play commentary coming from the Allies side against your strategy.

First off, you bought a carrier and transports and sunk the big chunk of the royal navy.  I got lucky in z109 but right now I am thinking “sea lion”.  You did not take South France so I feel safe getting my ships to z92 because Italy has no landing spot.  You could still take Algeria with Italy to give Germany a landing spot for an airstrike but that would be costly for the Luftwaffe and put the out of position for sea lion or barbarossa.

So Russia is going to buy artillery in preparation for the advance into Eastern Europe after sea lion, and I feel no special need to bring the Mongolians home.

[Guest]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 6 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Rostov
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia

Place Units - Russians
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            3 artilleries placed in Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 39 PUs total

[Noll]

Well basically you play the Axis in reaction to what UK and US do in the first 2 turns.
It could still be either a SeaLion, a Barbarossa, or that strange Neutral thingy.