GARGANTUA'S $200 TOURNAMENT OF EXTRA DEATH AND PAIN (TripleA Only) 2xELIMINATION

[Yoshi]

So how are the brackets now ?

[gamerman01]

I updated them all a couple weeks ago, but haven’t heard boo from Bold about them since……

Come on, Bold, one absentee tournament moderator is no better than another absentee tournament moderator!

[gamerman01]

Aw, what can it hurt.

Caveat - these are the brackets after I updated them, but I am not in charge here.  This task was delegated to me, and I completed it on August 19!

You’re welcome

XDAP 2 August 19.xls

[Yoshi]

Thanks,

Looks like the two bottom game are officially ended (one finished, and ours came out of the tournament because of time constraints for our opponents). So we should be able to move to the next round I guess :)

Yoshi

[boldfresh]

@Yoshi:

Thanks,

Looks like the two bottom game are officially ended (one finished, and ours came out of the tournament because of time constraints for our opponents). So we should be able to move to the next round I guess :)

Yoshi

Yes proceed!

[Cow]

So are the death pit games still a thing?

[gamerman01]

We should probably wait until a couple more teams lose and are in the pits.  Everyone in the pit has already won at least 1 game
I’m only responding because I’m not sure anyone else will respond to this question for weeks

[Balladeer]

Gamerman: 23 lost game 17 (so team Berserk goes on).

[gamerman01]

Thanks, but I think Nerquen is the guy now - he put my spreadsheet on google docs

[Gargantua]

Let me see if I cant get the spreadsheet updated this afternoon.

Only a handful of games left to be honest!

[JDOW]

Is there anything going on? Or just dead :(

[JuanSpain]

@JDOW:

Is there anything going on? Or just dead :(

Rubioton and I are playing vs Team Bersek, we are both playing quickly, they are playing strong and in addition we were just diced, so potentially very quickly they will win.

[JDOW]

Well, my Ally Wheatbeer is MIA anyway :-(

[nerquen]

The XDAP2 bracket is updated with quarterfinal win of Team Berserk vs. La armada Invencible, game link.

Currently in progress:

last quarterfinal game: Yamamoto was diced vs Team Yojack, game link

semifinal game Team Berserk vs. Peaceful Warriors just starting, game link

I don’t have a clue what is happening in the pits. If someone can enlighten me I can update the pits records.

[JuanSpain]

Hi gentlemen, what should be next in the pits? we have the best score currently I think, what are the next steps?

Thx

[gamerman01]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, what’s this pit scoring thing?  We’re the only team to win 2 games in the pits, and Sunshine Time was also eliminated in the first round, but have only 1 win, so how do they have more “points” than us?  Ancients never won a game in the pits and has more points than us?  Why are there points in the PITS?!
Boldman is still here and kicking.  Maybe the only way to resolve this is to battle!  What kind of pits are they if there are multiple teams in the pits who have not lost in the pits?  I thought it was a sole survivor kind of pit!!  Of course it is!

(I do understand that time might be up if the winner outside the pits is waiting - but explain this scoring, and who came up with it)

WHERE’S THE EXTRA DEATH???  WHERE’S THE PAAAAAAAIN???

[nerquen]

here are the rules of pit fights: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35466.msg1383776#msg1383776

So following the rules:
Sunshine Time shall play against Ancients… then the winner of that match can face team Boldman. Winner of which shall then face La Armada Invencible.

There are still possible 2 extra teams to enter the pit fights (the loser of the 2nd semifinal game and the the loser of the final game)…

[gamerman01]

Crystal clear now, thanks!!  Been a long time since I read those rules

[JuanSpain]

Gamer, games won before falling to the pits also count, overall we have more games won, for that reason we have the best score (the nearest to 0).

Thanks for pushing this up consistently Nerquen, so if I understand correctly, what you suggest is that the best scored team at each moment (Armada now) should wait the ones with lower (and the same if possible) to fight, which takes us to the fight sequence that you proposed.

I think it makes sense but I have 2 questions:

1. Someone knows if that match between Sunshine and Ancients is going to happen? what happens if they don´t play? the sequence you propose cannot progress in that case I think.

2. Gargantua also stated that strong teams might search for weaker, and that the first team reaching score 0 is the one taking the pass to the final. I understand this means that we could fight 2 teams between the other 3 and if we were lucky to win, we would get the pass. Is this option no longer valid?

May be in oprder to control such situations, is why Garg stated that he should approve all matches, I think we need his support here, and in any case, having Sunshine and Ancients voice up too, only Armada and Boldman (between the PITs participants) are speaking here.

Thx all.

Juan

[nerquen]

@JuanSpain:

1. Someone knows if that match between Sunshine and Ancients is going to happen?

my bet is that they won’t play as they did not start their game for many long months now.

@JuanSpain:

what happens if they don�t play? the sequence you propose cannot progress in that case I think.

Correct. Also, note that there is an alternative sequence that is also possible: La Armada Invencible will face the losing team of the current semifinal game (if they decide to join the PITS, both teams will have score 2)… then winner of that PIT fight (having score 1) can face loser of the main bracket final game… winner of which will then reach score 0. It is kind of strange artifact of the PIT rules that a team can reach score 0 and thus gain right to fight XDAP champion even though there still can be other undefeated teams in the PITS.

@JuanSpain:

2. Gargantua also stated that strong teams might search for weaker, and that the first team reaching score 0 is the one taking the pass to the final. I understand this means that we could fight 2 teams between the other 3 and if we were lucky to win, we would get the pass. Is this option no longer valid?

Not sure, I interpreted this section as if there are multiple teams of score let say 4, then any team with score 4 is free to pair itself with any other team of score 4, most likely with one which they consider as the weakest.

@JuanSpain:

May be in order to control such situations, is why Garg stated that he should approve all matches, I think we need his support here, and in any case, having Sunshine and Ancients voice up too, only Armada and Boldman (between the PITs participants) are speaking here.

Agree, the only bold part of the PIT rules is: 7.  NO MATCH CAN PROCEED WITHOUT MY CONSENT … he should be able to solve all the issues.