Poll: How "Conservative" am I?


  • @yourbuttocks:

    Conservatives support Israel. Liberals support Palestine. Notice how conservative Horten supported Israel against liberal Yanny?

    y_b_,
    But, notice how he ABANDONS Isreal once we are energy self-sufficient! Your point and mine make him a Mild or Moderate Liberal ON THIS ISSUE ONLY. This helps lean his rating to the Liberal ‘box’.
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  • @FinsterniS:

    Yes but this is not always that simple…

    F_S,
    We undrestand this. We are not a ‘one issue’ people as oftne painted by the LIBERAL MEDIA. Even during the United States Civil War(1861-1864) it was not just a ‘slavery issue’.
    (SEE MY POST prior to your last one. HFW’s views are “quoted” there. For an in depth analysis :D see my post under General Discussion : Serious Topics [Page 3, fourth post]. :) :evil: :)
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    The Corporate Conservationist Cabal :wink:


  • @cystic:

    @FinsterniS:

    Yes but this is not always that simple… Horten is for Abortion and i am against (with some rare exeption), but Horten is conversative/capitalist and i am liberal/social-democrat…

    maybe i missed this under the “abortion thread” - but would you tell me why you are against? Curiously, of course - no desire to debate (you likely know/can guess my stance).

    I believe life start at the conception (or shortly after). And it is the duty of the parent to guide this life, not to end it… But my philosophy can only apply to a country with a strong governement, capable of making social program to help pregnant womans.


  • @FinsterniS:

    @cystic:

    @FinsterniS:

    Yes but this is not always that simple… Horten is for Abortion and i am against (with some rare exeption), but Horten is conversative/capitalist and i am liberal/social-democrat…

    maybe i missed this under the “abortion thread” - but would you tell me why you are against? Curiously, of course - no desire to debate (you likely know/can guess my stance).

    I believe life start at the conception (or shortly after). And it is the duty of the parent to guide this life, not to end it… But my philosophy can only apply to a country with a strong governement, capable of making social program to help pregnant womans.

    agreed.
    boy that’s weird.


  • When in doubt, join the CCC!- T_6
    The Corporate Conservationist Cabal

    As if! Those Corporate Fat Cats will never get to me! :wink:\


  • pro guns…very pro
    pro abortion
    pro euthanasia
    pro harsh (relatively) punishment of arrested illegal immigrants
    pro true campaign finance reform bills
    pro israel until oil is no longer needed
    pro environment besides arctic drilling

    Against firearm, very against…
    Against Abortion
    Against capital punishment
    Pro euthanasia in some case
    Against harsh punishment in any case (it has been proven innefective)
    Pro environment even if it damage a little short term economy

    were are close from an exact opposite… :)


  • @FinsterniS:

    pro guns…very pro
    pro abortion
    pro euthanasia
    pro harsh (relatively) punishment of arrested illegal immigrants
    pro true campaign finance reform bills
    pro israel until oil is no longer needed
    pro environment besides arctic drilling

    Against firearm, very against…
    Against Abortion
    Against capital punishment
    Pro euthanasia in some case
    Against harsh punishment in any case (it has been proven innefective)
    Pro environment even if it damage a little short term economy

    were are close from an exact opposite… :)

    even more stunningly, i am apparently in FinsterniS’ camp in all regards save for euthanasia (note: This does not mean against “pulling the plug” so much as against giving KCl injections to end a life)


  • hmmm… very disturbing…

    anyway why not giving “KCl injections to end a life”, you may have a good argument i don’t know… I am just for the idea that some person suffer so much that they should be able to choose Death if there is no hope… some are just suffering, suffering, waiting for death…


  • @FinsterniS:

    hmmm… very disturbing…

    anyway why not giving “KCl injections to end a life”, you may have a good argument i don’t know… I am just for the idea that some person suffer so much that they should be able to choose Death if there is no hope… some are just suffering, suffering, waiting for death…

    This has been discussed in ethics groups ad nauseum, and the bottom line (the best i can come up with today) is that i feel that it’s wrong. After taking all the arguments, weighing them out etc. i might be able to convince my brain that euthanasia is right/appropriate, but right now (not having had very much experience with people in considerable pain) i really can not stomach the idea of killing another person.
    This is why i’ve said in other posts that we need more effective palliation methods, rather than euthanizing methods.


  • @TG:

    When in doubt, join the CCC!- T_6
    The Corporate Conservationist Cabal

    As if! Those Corporate Fat Cats will never get to me! :wink:\

    You DON’T GET IT! Sierra Club, GreenPeace and others (millions of dollars raked in, beautiful offices in skyscrapers/expensive buildings, big salaries for the executives, expensive fundraisers, idiots who donate their money[$10 to $100,00] without knowing where it goes, idiot liberal volunteers who sabotage logging equipment and industrial facilities, putting working people( who are also moms and dads)at risk.
    That’s the CCC.
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    “Where if your enemy fights with intensity he will survive but if not he will perish, it is called ‘fatal terrain.’ On fatal terrain always engage in battle.” - Sun-tzu, The Art of War


  • What are you talking about, “I don’t get it!?” I know exactly what you’re talking about. What I can say is that any “non-profit organization” probably has a good deal of “shady buisness.” Just look at the crackdown on Union and Labor leaders. It’s all a part of the vicitcrats to seize power at the price of others -terrible :evil:.


  • Okay,
    one issue alone does not make one a liberal or a conservati

    ISSUES - are not nation specific
    Put your Y_ or N_ to the left of the issue

    A) National defense
    B) Green space(parks and preserves)
    C) Medicare
    D) National college program
    E) Research new environmentally friendly energy sources
    F) Graduated tax structure(poor-0%, middle-20%, upper-40%, rich-70%ish)
    G) Allow the UN to tax, judge and jail citizens
    H) Permanent firearm registration
    I) 12 month paid leave from work for birth of a child, spouse, or parent
    J) Jordan’s(nation)right to exist(1947-gift-sherriff of Mecca-Saudi Arabia
    K) Legalize marijuana
    L) Set cost controls on public utilities
    M) Affirmative action
    N) Open borders
    O) Medicaid
    P) National ID for all citizens, immigrants and foreigners.
    Q) Campaign finance reform
    R) National health care
    S) Plan urban growth
    T) Enforce extant laws (legislature not to pass redundant laws)
    U) Children’s rights
    V) Raise the national minimum wage
    W) One national langauge
    X) Literacy program to raise the national average to 12th grade
    Y) Eliminate racial profiling
    Z) Rehabilitate criminals
    a) Social Security
    b) Fight terrorism
    c) Eliminate tarriffs
    d) National preschool and afterschool programs
    e) Reproductive rights for women
    f) Recognize the Republic of China as a sovereign nation
    g) Limit all elected national legislators to one term(exceptions - Chrmn., Pr. Min., Pres., Premier-two terms)
    h) Legalize suicide/euthanasia
    i) Flat tax
    j) Pay victim reparations
    k) National legal care
    l) School voucher program
    m) Prayer in schools
    n) Exclusive groups and right to use facilitiesallowed(Women’s colleges, Boy Scouts, Black Panthers, etc.)
    o)(PLEASE, ADD OTHERS)

    Well, wacha say? Fer 'um, r agin 'um? Any you want to add? When we runs outa letters we can go to #s.

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    “If a man is not liberal when young he has no heart; if not conservative when he is older he has no brain.”- Some Famous Guy


  • Ha, not another one of these “choose your political affiliation” addendums! :) Come on Xi, you know better than that.


  • @yourbuttocks:

    Conservatives support Israel. Liberals support Palestine. Notice how conservative Horten supported Israel against liberal Yanny?

    um now i dont know what u guys consider me but i think im extremly conservitave in some points yet, im Anti Israel and slightly pro Palestine so that commet could be false ;)


  • @TG:

    Ha, not another one of these “choose your political affiliation” addendums! :) Come on Xi, you know better than that.

    You are CLOSE, T_6,

    I KNOW BEST! MUHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAA!
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    :P :evil: De Debil maded mi doo dat! - Xi

    Come on, CHICKENS!


  • D_E_S,

    Why R U agin poor lil ol’ Israel? (You mean ol’ coyote, you!)
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  • A) National defense Yes
    B) Green space(parks and preserves) Yes
    C) Medicare No
    D) National college program No
    E) Research new environmentally friendly energy sources Yes
    F) Graduated tax structure(poor-0%, middle-20%, upper-40%, rich-70%ish) No
    G) Allow the UN to tax, judge and jail citizens No
    H) Permanent firearm registration No
    I) 12 month paid leave from work for birth of a child, spouse, or parent No
    J) Jordan’s(nation)right to exist(1947-gift-sherriff of Mecca-Saudi Arabia Maybe
    K) Legalize marijuana NO!
    L) Set cost controls on public utilities Yes
    M) Affirmative action No
    N) Open borders NO!
    O) Medicaid No
    P) National ID for all citizens, immigrants and foreigners. Maybe
    Q) Campaign finance reform Yes
    R) National health care NO!
    S) Plan urban growth ?
    T) Enforce extant laws (legislature not to pass redundant laws) Yes
    U) Children’s rights Yes
    V) Raise the national minimum wage Not neccessarily
    W) One national langauge Yes (as long as it’s English :wink:)
    X) Literacy program to raise the national average to 12th grade Yes
    Y) Eliminate racial profiling Yes
    Z) Rehabilitate criminals Yes
    a) Social Security Yes
    b) Fight terrorism Yes
    c) Eliminate tarriffs No
    d) National preschool and afterschool programs No
    e) Reproductive rights for women ?
    f) Recognize the Republic of China as a sovereign nation Maybe
    g) Limit all elected national legislators to one term(exceptions - Chrmn., Pr. Min., Pres., Premier-two terms) No
    h) Legalize suicide/euthanasia No
    i) Flat tax Maybe (Income tax?)
    j) Pay victim reparations No
    k) National legal care No
    l) School voucher program Maybe
    m) Prayer in schools Yes
    n) Exclusive groups and right to use facilities allowed(Women’s colleges, Boy Scouts, Black Panthers, etc.) No


  • Horton, your one of the “rightist” people i have ever known.
    i barly agree with a single word you type.
    your a capitilst pig and a conservitive ass.
    i hate the way you presive the world and the way you think it should be run.

    But i do think the world will allways need people with your kind of opinions.


  • your a capitilst pig and a conservitive ass.

    Watch it, pal! No name calling. :evil:
    What use is making fun of someone who’s not even around to read it?

    i hate the way you presive the world and the way you think it should be run.
    But i do think the world will allways need people with your kind of opinions.

    There always be liberals and conservatives – there’s no way around it.


  • sorry i was not aware that he was not around. where did he go?

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