Alsch (Axis) vs Auswanderersland and JamesAleman (Allies) Alpha 2

[Alsch91]

And actually a quick non-com edit as well.

5 SS SZ 6 to SZ 35
1 SS SZ 22 to SZ 35
1 SS SZ 34 to SZ 35
1 SS SZ 46 to SZ 35

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[Alsch91]

Er it didn’t change for some reason.

Okay this is definitely the right map.

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[Alsch91]

Arg marker errors.  I need to stop experimenting with moves in between saves.

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[Auswanderersland]

sorry its taking so long, i may have separated my shoulder during a rugby yesterday…i can barely move my arm atm.  I have yet to confer with my ally about the present japanese expansion.

[Auswanderersland]

*rugby game

[JamesAleman]

And I had a face to face game.

Here is the map. I am all allies
Axis controlled by one player.

Saved on turn 6: German to move.

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[Alsch91]

Sure thing Auswander.  Take your time.

Things are looking pretty good for you in that game, James.
A few very interesting things though.  Italians in 125?  :lol:
I guess that solves the Russian NO problem.

[JamesAleman]

I messed up Jehol, there are only 2 mech, and 3 armor there….but yea, he took London after 2 waves, India was a disaster…I hit him, 26 units on 26, I had 4 1’s, 18 2’s, 3 3’s, and 1 four vs 25 2’s, 1 three…I hit 6, he hit 12…game over for India. I stayed 3 rounds, since his whole airforce could take india if I didn’t kill the land units…then retreated the air units to china…

Outside of that…I traded London for Italy…when turn 4 was obvious…(since turn 3 sea lion failed)…I flew the planes and Americans to 92…then knocked out Italy. He had the z125 italians in z110 to protect the German transports from the UK/US air force…axis turn 1 attack meant I had USA units in London.

Sorry for the delay, I have online college homework, Andy’s wife was off work, and he is hurt…so I can’t type, he can’t talk or type…Tomorrow I will try to post before work if able.

[JamesAleman]

USA turn 5:
Production: 82
6 Bombers=72
Save 10
72+10=82

Combat Moves:
To z6: sub,trn-z25 loaded with inf,arm ; 3ftr,3tac-Mid vs dd (3 ftr if you scramble…assuming you won’t, if you want roll 3 dice and finish the battle that results on Italy’s turn) vs dd (no Kamikaze as attack is trn,subs, and air units)
Rolls: 1@2 3@3 3@4; Total Hits: 51@2: (1)3@3: (2, 2, 5)3@4: (5, 3, 4)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)
To Kor: inf,arm-z6; bmbr-Wus vs inf
Rolls: 1@1 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@1: (4)1@3: (4)1@4: (4)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

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[JamesAleman]

z6: Japan loses dd; USA no loss
Kor: Japan loses inf; USA loses bmbr

Noncombat Moves:
To Sib: 3ftr,3tac-z6
To z33: bb,3ca,3cv,6ftr,dd-z25; sub-z26; sub-z54
To Que: 7 Bombers-Wus
To z26: trn-z10 loaded with inf-Wus, UK-arm

Placement:
Wus: 6 bmbrs

Collection: 88 (78+10 Saved)

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[Alsch91]

You can’t move units into Russian territories on the Pacific Map unless Russia is at war with Japan.

[JamesAleman]

China turn 5:
Production: 5
1 inf=3
Save 2
3+2=5

Combat Moves:
To Kan: inf-Tsi; inf,ftr-She vs inf
Rolls: 1@1 1@3; Total Hits: 01@1: (2)1@3: (4)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)2
To Sui: inf-She uncontested

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[JamesAleman]

Ok, redoing allies

[JamesAleman]

I’ll have to confer with Andy on this one…

[Alsch91]

Sure thing.

[Auswanderersland]

I asked for a ruling, however, I would like to point out the following:

Russia is not a “true” neutral.  They are a member of the Allied forces and allow allied units in their territories in both maps once at war with Germany/Italy.

To give an example of why America may land planes is the following:

Germany is in Siberia, so America may never attack?  That would silly.

[Alsch91]

I agree that would be strange, but would also be a relatively rare occurance.
I’d argue it would be much sillier for US to be able to land 12 bombers in Amur, wrecking Japan’s IC every turn, and for Japan not to be allowed to strike back without giving Russia 12 IPCs.

A line from the Alpha rules-

Due to its separate treaties with Germany and Japan, the Soviet Union is in a unique position in its relationship with the Axis powers. As a result, if the Soviet Union is at war with Axis powers on only one map, it is still under the restrictions of being a neutral power (see Powers Not at War with One Another above) on the other map. In other words, a state of war with Japan lifts those restrictions from the USSR on the Pacific map only, and a state of war with Germany and/or Italy lifts those restrictions on the Europe map only.

[Auswanderersland]

/shakesfist at the world.

Alsch,

Our incorrect understanding of Russia’s neutrality has forced us to redo China and US Turn 5.  We are discussing now, I should be able to repost after the kids go to bed.  Sorry for the inconvinience.  We will keep what rolls we can as it appeared they were slightly in your favor.

[Alsch91]

No worries.  That’s fine.

[JamesAleman]

USA turn 5: (Note on China, I didn’t roll for an inf in Kan, map shows right move, but I failed to update text/rolls)
Production: 82
6 Bombers=72
Save 10
72+10=82

Combat Moves:
To Kor: 2inf,art,arm-Mid via 2trn-z25 vs inf-Kor (Keeping rolls, so only rolling for the inf,art)
Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 02@2: (4, 4)

To z6: (same as before, keeping rolls) 3ftr,3tac-Mid; sub-z25 vs dd
Feel free to scramble and roll for 3 ftrs and finish battle if you like.

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