Noll/Axis/jim vs ghr2/corr/jen Alpha 3

[corriganbp]

1.) UK fleet in 91, 98, 110, 112 move to 111 (includes tac bomb on cv)
2.) Naval base in Scotland
3.) airbase on Gibraltar
4.) fighter on Malta and gib removed, moved to Scotland
5.) interceptors shoot at 2
6.) USSR Dow rights delayed to Round 6
7.) USA DOW rights delayed to collect income phase of Round 8
8.) One consolidated income for UK, to be used as they see fit
9.) Modified Turn Sequence:
Germany
USSR
Japan
Democratic Allies - with coordinated attack
Italy - starting with the 1st Italian turn, Italy/German turns are combined.
10.) Germany gets 5 IPCs for London NO
11.) USSR NO per Krieghund, 3 ipcs per original axis or pro axis neutral on the atlantic board.
12.) amphib assault rules, all attacks at -1

[corriganbp]

I admit that my modifications are more ambitious than fixing sea lion.  I am trying to make the game feel more like WW II, with a very strong english navy in the atlantic, and a period of time where the focus of the war is on North Africa and China.

Kreighund’s more modest proposal is:

french cruiser in 112 to 110
brit cruiser in 112 to 111
german transport fr 113 to 114

USSR NO - no more ipc bonus for allied friendly neutrals, or true neturals, instead include all axis and axis neutrals on atlantic map.

[corriganbp]

my proposed rules for neutrals

friendly neutrals are no longer persuaded by invasion.
instead invest 1-5 ipcs lobbying for entrance to war, roll the investment or less and convince them

can only influence friendly neutrals in your sphere of influence.
south america –> USA sphere of influence
if mongolia becomes allied friendly thru a violoation of neutrality --> USSR
other friendly allied neutrals --> UK
axis friendly neutrals --> germany

allies can’t violate true neutrals
if the axis violates true neutrals, they become allied friendly AND there is an automatic investment of 3 ipcs per round in lobbying them, only 2 ipcs can be added so there is always a chance that the neutral won’t enter the war.

[Jennifer]

Of late I’ve been switching over to destroy Russia first - and in that case, I generally suicide attack the Siberian units with all my planes long before they get back to Moscow, so a round 7 or even a round 8 attack isn’t so bad anymore.

I hear Krieghund has some rules suggestions to balance things out - though I cannot find them.

[corriganbp]

Krieghund’s suggestions are two posts above yours Jen.

If you want I can send the link.

[Jennifer]

@corriganbp:

Krieghund’s suggestions are two posts above yours Jen.Â

If you want I can send the link.

Above mine in what thread???  ARGH!  The futility of being active!

[corriganbp]

Kreighund’s more modest proposal is:

french cruiser in 112 to 110
brit cruiser in 112 to 111
german transport fr 113 to 114

USSR NO - no more ipc bonus for allied friendly neutrals, or true neturals, instead include all axis and axis neutrals on atlantic map.

[jim010]

Not good enough.  Move the BB from 110 to 111 and put the carrier back in Gib and I’d be happy with the UK.

[Jennifer]

Move the SZ 98 fleet to SZ 91, move the Italian DD/TRn back and don’t touch anything else and I’ll be happy with England being balanced.  You can still do Sea Lion, or Modified Sea Lion (round 4 instead of round 3) but England can be more secure - not to mention you don’t negate England hitting the Italians in Taranto if they want to live on the edge.

[jim010]

I could live with that.

[Jennifer]

So for this round, should we go with those two changes?

[ghr2]

Can I switch for Italy?

[Noll]

I’d like to keep Italy.

[ghr2]

:(  I would liek to be with at least 1 of my buds :)

[corriganbp]

So are we using Krieg’s, Jen’s and Jim’s suggestions?

To recap:

Krieg
DD in 106 becomes a CA
French CA in 112 moves to 110
British CA in 112 moves to 111

Jim
British BB in 110 moves to 111

Jen
Britch CV, TAC, DD, CA fr 98 to 91

[corriganbp]

I encourage players to accept the random assignment as it is one of the best and most fair ways to keep the game fresh for people, but I allow for trades because I understand.

If you are ok with your random assignment and ok with the modifications, post a thumbs up, happy face, yes, yay, ya or some other affirmation.  Otherwise, ask for a change.

[Noll]

I don’t mind playing with anyone, I love playing with Jim and Axisplaya, so if for gh2 it’s so important to play with Jenn and Corrigan I can change side and go Allies with them. Although I agree that keeping the random play we could basically re-play these group of people for #infinite# number of plays :P

But are we using standard rules? 'Cause I’m not willing to play for example an USA that’s delayed to end of turn 8 for a dow.

[corriganbp]

We are not using my modifications.

[ghr2]

@Noll:

I don’t mind playing with anyone, I love playing with Jim and Axisplaya, so if for gh2 it’s so important to play with Jenn and Corrigan I can change side and go Allies with them. Although I agree that keeping the random play we could basically re-play these group of people for #infinite# number of plays :P

But are we using standard rules? 'Cause I’m not willing to play for example an USA that’s delayed to end of turn 8 for a dow.

I just like playign with jim or corrigan

[Noll]

If we don’t change things I’m Italy and who’s playing Germany and Japan?