Noll/Axis/jim vs ghr2/corr/jen Alpha 3

[corriganbp]

ahh sorting screws stuff up

[corriganbp]

NollRolls: 10@5; Total Hits: 510@5: (6, 1, 6, 2, 1, 3, 5, 6, 6, 6)
JenRolls: 10@5; Total Hits: 810@5: (6, 3, 3, 4, 6, 3, 4, 4, 3, 3)
AxisplayaRolls: 10@5; Total Hits: 1010@5: (3, 4, 1, 2, 4, 2, 3, 2, 3, 4)
GhrRolls: 10@5; Total Hits: 910@5: (5, 2, 4, 5, 4, 5, 1, 2, 4, 6)
CorriganRolls: 10@5; Total Hits: 1010@5: (1, 4, 3, 4, 1, 3, 1, 5, 1, 3)
JimRolls: 10@5; Total Hits: 710@5: (2, 3, 1, 2, 4, 5, 3, 6, 6, 6)

[corriganbp]

Noll gets Italy
Jen gets Japan
Axisplaya draws USA/China
GHR gets UK/ANZAC/French
Corrigan gets Germany
Jim gets USSR
If people don’t like their chosen side by drawing straws, trades can be negotiated.

[Jennifer]

@jim010:

We’ll see what the others think.  We never planned on making our push in Europe.

I feel that their goal was to take the Pacific and they were going to use the German fleet to cap it off.  It’s a good idea.  Wish I could have seen more of it.

Willing to trade Japan for:  Germany or Russia

[Axisplaya]

Yeah, the idea was a turn 6 pacific victory with Sydney and Hawai, but the more i look into it, the more i feel like it’s just too easy to stop it with proper play for allies.

[Jennifer]

@Axisplaya:

Yeah, the idea was a turn 6 pacific victory with Sydney and Hawai, but the more i look into it, the more i feel like it’s just too easy to stop it with proper play for allies.

On the plus side, you did have us guessing!

[Noll]

It should have been “faked” more!
It’s something that can work only if the Allies don’t see it.

[corriganbp]

In my opinion, to pull off the Japanese VC win, you also need to put pressure on them from another spot on the board.  So try to get the VC win, after taking India or England, or after the DEI if Australia has been buying air or navy, and maybe brought those forces to defend India.

But Planning to take the VCs, more difficult, take the VCs if the opportunity presents itself.

[corriganbp]

The Germans looked liked an R4 sea lion.

It also looked like some kind of strange kill america first strat.

[jim010]

@Cmdr:

@jim010:

We’ll see what the others think.�  We never planned on making our push in Europe.

I feel that their goal was to take the Pacific and they were going to use the German fleet to cap it off.  It’s a good idea.  Wish I could have seen more of it.

Willing to trade Japan for:  Germany or Russia

That is exactly what we were going for.  Axisplaya, I know that it looks tough, but we learned that the Italian fleet MUST be in sz91 by turn 2 to enable Japan to go to war turn 3.  Aso, Japan’s fleet I think is better off in Hawaii than Carolines by turn 4 so that when Germany/Italy go to sz52, Japan can help cover us.

It merits more exploring.  I’m just bored of Sealion.  It was something different.

If you erally want USSR, I’ll trade for Japan.

[jim010]

I would also add that if we could engineer getting Panama on turn 4, the US would not be able to cut us off when we go to sz52.  It can work.

And how many people would honestly predict the German/Italian fleet going to Sydney?

Keep this under your hats, people.  I’d like to work on it more and use it in the future.

[corriganbp]

Yes, players will say WTF when Germany heads to Sydney, but the problem is that Japan has already broadcasted its intent to go for the VC win at the expense of its economic base, so allied preparations to defend the VCs at all cost are already on their mind.

[jim010]

Need more faking while still taking Hawaii turn 4.

[corriganbp]

Do you only use rush strategies?

Are you tired of playing against sea lion?

Anyone want to try the Krieghund modifications?

[jim010]

I am tired of Sealion.  That’s why I explored the Turn 6 Russia Rush (which I think is pretty good) or this Turn 6 Australia.

I also believe that if the game is not already decidedly an Axis win by turn 8, they are not going to win.  And that an Axis win will almost always be on the Europe side.

Are Krieghund’s ideas going to be ‘official’?

[jim010]

@corriganbp:

Do you only use rush strategies?

I also like how these turn 6 rushes usually cause panic creating opportunities for mistakes that just make things worse.

[Jennifer]

What are the Krieghund modifications?

As for rush strategies, I think with the insanely over paid Americans, the only hope the Axis have is to hit the allies hard, fast and get those VCs before America can ramp up.

I think (untested, pure opinion) if we were to give England +2 fighters and make S. Africa and Egypt worth 3 IPC each (yes that makes them valid for Major Complexes for England) and maybe find some other territories to increase the value of for England, then drop America by an equal amount of money, the Axis wouldn’t need these desperate grabs for power and could line up more casual assaults.  Just my opinion though.

That said, Jim, maybe you want to drop down to Turn 7 rushes?  Gives you more firepower to bring to the ballgame.

[jim010]

The problem with a turn 7 Moscow rush is that the first of the Siberian units are now entering Moscow.  And Corrigan’s move of getting bmbs there, well … odds there are better turn 6.  And turn 8 is too late with all of the Siberians in Moscow now.

A turn 7 Sydney is hard to picture.

I advocate uniting the UK fleet in 111, and the Italian fleet in 97.

[jim010]

Don’t forget that Sealion is a rush tactic too.

[corriganbp]

Sea lion is and isn’t a rush.  A rush tactic usually ends the game when it works while allied players have come back to get the win post sea lion.

I like the consolidated navies, but it makes england so much stronger that you need to do something to help the axis.

my proposal for this is delayed DOW rights for the USSR (R6) and USA (collect income phase of R8).

however, these haven’t been thoroughly play tested yet.

it is possible to win with the Germans with the Siberians in Moscow.  And many russians players are getting more aggressive against japan these days.