WC12: G40, Rd1 Qualifier, Ol'Blood&Guts (Axis+6) vs. SAS (Allies)

[Guest]

@SAS:

Ok, I just wanted to double-check in case you knew, but the Germans taking London means that the USSR and the USA can declare war now, correct?

It does mean the US can declare war…however it does not mean the same with the USSR. They cannot declare war before turn 4 unless they are attacked by the Axis.

[SilverAngelSurfer]

Was that changed since September, because the quote above says the USSR can if London is captured.  I know that wasn’t the case in Alpha 2, but I wasn’t sure about Alpha 3 with this listing.

[Guest]

The above quotes only say the US may declare war. The first quote only says the USSR may declare war if they are attacked by any Axis power. Since I have not attacked the USSR with Germany or Italy yet, they cannot declare war yet.

[SilverAngelSurfer]

@SAS:

@Cmdr:

Alpha +3
Posted:September 1, 2011

…

Political Situation - Soviet Union:
The Soviet Union begins the game at war with no one. When not yet at war with Japan, in addition to the normal restrictions (see Powers Not at War with One Another above), the Soviet Union may not move units into or through China. The Soviet Union may not declare war on any European Axis power before turn four unless first declared war upon by a European Axis power or an Axis power captures London.

END PART 1
@Larry:

http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149

I think this answers it…

If you read the second part of the stipulation (highlighted) it clearly states that the USSR may declare war before turn 4 under two conditions:

1. An European Axis power declares war on it
2. An Axis power captures London

I double-checked by asking on the global FAQ and a non-official confirmed it, followed by Krieg and Gamerman both responding to other questions without clarifying or correcting the response, which is assent.

If you completely hadn’t prepared for that, I may be willing to let you reconsider your German move, but otherwise I will proceed with my Russian turn with the option to declare war in Europe.

[Guest]

My apologies…I totally missed that. I am good though with the map and how it stands. No need to redo.

[SilverAngelSurfer]

Alright, sounds good.  I’ll get the Russian turn up soon then.

[SilverAngelSurfer]

USSR 3

Declaration of war on Germany and Italy

Production:
35 IPCs
7 inf, 1 art, 1 mec, 1 tnk
35 - 21 - 4 - 4 - 6 = 0 saved

Combat Move:
Sea Zone 6  (J: 2 trn)
1 bmr (Bury > Amu > z5 > z6)

Siberia (J: empty)
1 inf (Amu > Sib)

Sakha (J: 1 inf)
7 inf (Amu > Sak)

[SilverAngelSurfer]

Sakha Round 1

A: 7 inf
Rolls: 7@1; Total Hits: 27@1: (4, 1, 5, 1, 3, 2, 2)

D: 1 inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

[SilverAngelSurfer]

Results:
z6 cwol; 1 bmr remains
Sib walk-in; 1 inf remain
Sak twol; 7 inf remain

Non-Combat Move:
1 crs (z114 > z113)
1 sub (z113 > z114)
1 bmr (z6 > z5 > Amu > Bury)
4 inf, 1 AA (Amu > Bury)
3 inf (Nov > Kar)
1 inf (SUkr > Bes)
4 inf (SUkr > NUkr)
1 inf (Bry > Bel)
1 inf (Bry > NUkr)
2 inf (Rus > Bry)
1 inf (Vol > Kaz)
2 mec, 2 tnk (Bry > Ros > Cau)
1 mec, 1 tnk (Vol > Cau > NPr)

Placement:
3 inf (Novgorod)
2 inf, 1 art (South Ukraine)
1 mec, 1 tnk (Volgograd)
2 inf (Russia)

Collect:
36 (territories)
5 (NOs)
41 IPCs total

WC12_G40_OBG_vs._SAS_03bR.AAM

[Guest]

Jap3-Buy: cv, trn, 2 arm, mech, inf, art…save 0

CM
1. 6inf Cha/2art Hop => Sui 4inf
2. 2inf Hop/2ftr Kwa => Kwe
3. 3inf Hop => She
4. inf art ftr tac Kwa => Ksi inf
5. inf arm ftr tac Kwa => Hon inf
6. ftr sz36 => sz45 autokill trn
7. 2sub ftr tac sz36/bmr Kwa => sz41 cru bb
8. dd ftr tac sz36 => sz35 dd
9. dd tac sz36/ftr Kwa => sz43 dd
10. inf Kwa => Bor
11. 2dd 2cru 2bb sz36 => sz37 cru
12. inf art bmr Kwa => Mal inf
13. art Kwa => Shn

Sui
A-6inf 2art
Rolls: 4@1 4@2; Total Hits: 14@1: (4, 5, 1, 5)4@2: (6, 5, 3, 3)
D-4inf
Rolls: 4@2; Total Hits: 24@2: (2, 4, 6, 2)

[Guest]

Sui
A-4inf 2art
Rolls: 2@1 4@2; Total Hits: 22@1: (4, 3)4@2: (1, 2, 5, 5)
D-3inf
Rolls: 3@2; Total Hits: 03@2: (5, 3, 3)

[Guest]

Sui
A-4inf 2art
Rolls: 2@1 4@2; Total Hits: 02@1: (6, 4)4@2: (6, 3, 6, 5)
D-inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

[Guest]

Sui
A-3inf 2art
Rolls: 1@1 4@2; Total Hits: 31@1: (6)4@2: (3, 2, 1, 1)
D-inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

[Guest]

Sui twlo 4inf

Kwe
A-2inf 2ftr
Rolls: 2@1 2@3; Total Hits: 12@1: (1, 5)2@3: (5, 6)
D-inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)

[Guest]

Kwe twol

Ksi
A-inf art ftr tac
Rolls: 2@2 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 22@2: (2, 3)1@3: (1)1@4: (5)
D-inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (4)

[Guest]

Ksi twol

Hon
A-inf arm ftr tac
Rolls: 1@1 2@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@1: (6)2@3: (6, 5)1@4: (1)
D-inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

[Guest]

Hon twlo inf

sz41
A-2sub ftr tac bmr
Rolls: 2@2 1@3 2@4; Total Hits: 42@2: (2, 5)1@3: (3)2@4: (3, 3)
D-cru bb
Rolls: 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@3: (6)1@4: (2)

[Guest]

sz41 cwlo sub

sz35
A-dd ftr tac
Rolls: 1@2 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)1@3: (5)1@4: (6)
D-dd
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

[Guest]

sz35
A-ftr tac
Rolls: 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@3: (2)1@4: (5)
D-dd
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

[Guest]

sz35 cwlo dd ftr

sz43
A-dd ftr tac
Rolls: 1@2 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@2: (3)1@3: (4)1@4: (2)
D-dd
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)